[EN] NA - Bjorn's Ballad and Bote Breakdown: Tromp!
World of Warships: Bjorns Ballade – Analyse der Tromp, Balanceänderungen & mehr
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Der Bericht fasst einen World of Warships-Livestream zusammen. Themen sind eine detaillierte Analyse der Tromp, inklusive Build und Taktiken, die Vorstellung neuer Tarnungen und eine Diskussion über Balance-Änderungen. Strategische Manöver, Überlebensinstinkte und die Bedeutung von Teamwork werden beleuchtet.
00:00:02 Are we back? I'll be back. Oh, there's the Darin. He disabled one of my guns. Oh my goodness. And my Hydro's down. It's less than good. It is less than good.
Bjorn's Ballad Livestream-Start und erste Gefechte
00:00:3200:00:32 Oh, yes, Kansas! Did you just sip the Sheikhi? Yeah, brother! Oh my goodness! I know. I was as surprised as everyone else.
00:01:03 I would like to light a fire on the Sheikhi. He's got that cheek, man. Gimme that cheek, cheek, cheek. I'm also trying to dodge all these Venom Torps as well. Venom does have a lot of torpedoes. Venom has a lot of torpedoes.
00:01:23 Oh, there's a fire. I do kind of wish I had IFHE right now, because I would be penning this guy. On the 32mm side. Yes! Double sit! That's 30k in the Shiki! Get wrecked! Sorry. That's just very exciting to be... To be a Kansas and to be wrecking a Shiki? Yeah, but it sucks to be getting annihilated by an FDR at the same time. I can imagine. Oh, now I'm stuck in front of a Zao. Yikes.
00:01:52 Cut all these non-pens. I only have four fires, Clyde. I blame you. I could be getting all the raw damage on the cheeky. I think it's fair to blame Clyde. Oh man, he wasted me. Get overmatched? Yeah, I got straight overmatched. Well, I ended with 142. I need you to carry this and win. I definitely have less than 142.
00:02:16 Not doing too hot. Also about to get wrecked. Oh my god. That was a Tulsa set right there. Tulsa got its dispersion changed. It's now as accurate as a destroyer. Which is pretty cool. 5k damage. Oh my god. Yeah, he's got those advanced pen angles. Rough. Cheeky's sitting on 3k. Come on, Shinano. Come on, Bonk's Shinano. Go get him.
00:02:43 Ich bin froh, dass die Zau nicht auf die Körner kam und mich zu töten.
00:03:08 Why is that sitting me at that angle? Because it's a Tulsa. Oh. Why was it sitting me at that angle? I was a little bit not angled enough. Alright Patrick Boatman. You killed him and now you're getting the Tulsa. I accept that you made the right choice.
00:03:26 Es ist ein bisschen amusend, dass die FDR die Schinano geflogen hat und dann hat sie ihn mit ihm geflogen. Ich weiß. Es ist nicht wert, meine Zeit. Ja, das ist ein bisschen lustig. Look at this one Torpedo von der sehr backen der Schinano. Das ist was passiert, wenn du den Schinano geflogen live auf 2k HP. Oder 22, ich glaube.
00:03:51 Yeah, only about 50% of my shells are pensierin. Only I had the IPG. Boggy needs to stream with Misty Chu. It says Coronado Sol. So, funny enough... Boggy stream with Misty Chu in Spanish? Javo actually asked if I would come to a stream on the ES stream in Spanish, and I'm embarrassed. I used to be very, very good at Spanish. I was nearly bilingual for a long period of time, and now...
00:04:19 I stopped speaking it I just I never had the chance to so I haven't legitimately spoke Spanish in like five years and I gotta get the practice in I know so now I'm afraid that how was gonna let me know and I'm gonna be like I got to meet Hava we all got to meet Havo in Belgrade as well he was delightful he's super super nice
00:04:45 Runs a great stream. He ran the Spanish stream for us for like two years, right? He has some very impressive language learning skills. Yes, he learned English in like two months. Yeah, like the two to three months before the summit. Just so that he could communicate with people at the summit. And he did an incredible job. So, big props to him.
00:05:09 Ja, das ist die Streamer-Mentality. Ja, das ist die Streamer-Mentality, man. Das ist interessant. Ich denke, wir haben ihn, wie er hat er gemacht hat. Und er hat gesagt, dass er die Monate einfach nur die Englische WoW-Streamer hat. Ja, ja. Misty-Chu also spricht German. Ja, sie ist. Er ist, er ist, er ist viel einfacher als Gutscher. Wie viele languages do I speak? One. Ich denke, Weeb ist ein Langer, ist es? Ich denke, es ist ein Langer. Ich denke, es ist ein Langer. Ich denke, es ist ein Langer. Ich denke, es ist ein Langer.
00:05:37 Competitive Wows is definitely a language. I speak ships. I speak the language of ships. I hear a request for a Gibraltar. You know, when I see a Roosevelt sitting in the back as the last ship in the game and all the destroyers and cruisers and battleships closing in on it, it sort of reminds me of a game of watching competitive StarCraft when it's like...
00:06:02 The game is over. All there really is is just a bunch of worker bees towards the base. It's like, one Zergling gets in. And you're like, ah, that's good. They usually don't play out the game. They just quit it, yeah. GG, go next. Wasn't that original StarCraft, the competitive where the, I mean, your base killing your dudes? Isn't that where it came from? Yeah.
00:06:26 Open your base, killing your dudes. Come on, I just need a little bit more angle to shoot in the sky. Yeah, get in there and kill it, dudes. There we go.
Ankündigung neuer Camos und Diskussion über Balance-Änderungen
00:06:3800:06:38 Can you please tell, when can we get these new camos, Creature of the Cold, Creature of the Deep, for Anhalt in Ohio? I think those are part of the Bjorns Ballad, aren't they? No? Oh, no, I remember, yes. We announced them on the patch notes because we were adding them to the client. But they're not released yet. So they're in the client, yes, but they're not... Does that Torquito have range?
00:07:06 Ja, ich will hier sitzen und schütze diesen.
00:07:10 Maybe? Are they the sunken ones? I haven't, uh... Weird Streamstop had to restart. Yes, we... We had to restart our stream for latency. Oh my goodness! That FDR just bombed me for like 12k. Well, it is an FDR. Ouch. It's fine to die to an FDR. There's nothing shameful about it. Is our Lauria gonna get nuked? Oh, okay, good. I didn't see the Shima behind him.
00:07:38 Shima came around the island with a steel chair. He's got a steel chair! He's talking trash! Buff FDR win. You know what's funny? Long ago, the FDR was the most hated, most considered broken, overpowered chip ever. And it was pretty strong. But I think that sometimes people forget. It released pretty close to a tier 10 clan battle season that had CVs.
00:08:04 Und die Leute finden, wie die ... Es gibt keine Torpedal-Dispersion, wenn man die Planen turnen. Also, die Leute finden, wie die 180 ... Es gibt einen Däumen. Ja. Und das hat eine Menge Hate-Forwarden. Es ist sehr limited, in ein paar Worte. Es ist sehr, sehr limited in was es kann.
00:08:23 All right, Mr. Shue, Mr. Guy Shue, we should... Oh, let's take a look at... I'm going to actually throw on my screen here, if Mr. Sconce will kindly share it. This is the dev blog with all the balance changes, so we should probably pick some balance. Boggy loves balance changes. I love balance changes! First day of school! Belfast43 got a lot of buffs.
00:08:49 Is there anything else we could play? There was a Tulsa with now improved Destroyer Dispersion. There's Genon. Repub. I kind of want to try a Regolo. You want to try Regolo? With the better speed boost? Okay. You try Regolo. I'll try... I could do Zao. Zao with the angles. Have you played the Zao yet? Yes, I've played it like two or three times actually. It's super good. It's...
00:09:17 I'm going to get hate for saying this. It might be too good. No. I'm going to give Boggy hate for saying that. It's definitely not too good. It's so good. It's definitely not too good. You can easily get all four turrets on now. Like almost every other cruiser at the tier? Yeah, but nothing is as accurate or hits as hard with HE as that. As reliably. Goliath? Yeah, but Goliath is like...
00:09:46 Got the floaty anemic shells. Goliath has a big fat Citadel. He's not that much floatier. He has a super heal. Yeah, I know. I'm just saying. See, chat says Zao still needs buffs. I agree, we could buff Zao a few more times. Guys, I'm like Vegeta and Goku, okay? I'm just saying.
00:10:11 Are we going to get a Haruna BB for the 80th anniversary of the attack on Kuray? I don't know. But that is interesting. If there was such a thing, we could not confirm it on the stream. Correct.
00:10:36 Bogsy in Hulk Hogan voice, I'd like to give a shout out to all the little Bogsters out there. For Christmas, my in-laws gave me a t-shirt with Macho Man Randy Savage's face on it. And my eyes lit up when I got it. They were like, we thought you would like this. And I was like, oh, you don't have any respect for me at all. I'm kidding.
00:11:01 I think that displays the most respect for Bonnie. I'm kidding. It did. It was very nice of them. It was very sweet because they knew that it was something that I liked. Genon is overbuffed. I could see that maybe, actually. Maybe. The thing is, Genon is so easy to die in. Yes. It has insane damage output now, but it still gets absolutely wrecked by almost anything, to be honest. Let's compare Zhao and Genon.
00:11:28 Torpedos, I would say they're actually relatively close now in terms of torpedo use. Genon gets more, obviously, because of the booster. It also gets a fair amount of extra range, extra kilometer and a half. Kilometer and a half. I will say, though, that with the buffed torpedo angles on Zhao...
00:11:45 Es ist ein Ding. Ja. Detektion-wise, es ist eine 0.5-0.6 Kilometer-difference, richtig? Ja, die Deepwateren sind viel steilier. Oh, ich war gerade noch was. Ich war gerade über den Schiff-detektion. Ich denke, sie sind eigentlich die gleiche. Zau ist, was 9.9? Oder ist es 10? Zau ist 9.9. Ja, Genon ist eigentlich die gleiche. Ja. Ich denke, es ist also 9.9. Ja, könnte sehr wohl sein. Ich denke, es ist 9.8 oder so.
00:12:10 Und dann, die Genon natürlich hat besser DPM, ich würde sagen, aber ich würde sagen, dass die Zau... Die Zau? Die Zau? Was? Die Zau? Die Zau? Oh mein Gott. Ich habe ihn und es sofort smoked. Doth my eyes deceive me? Oh, Ragnar ist Radar-ing-ing-ing. Oh, ich werde das Ragnar-ing. Ich habe das Ragnar-ing. Ich habe das Ragnar-ing. Ich habe das Ragnar-ing. Ich habe das Ragnar-ing. Ich habe das Ragnar-ing. Ich habe das Ragnar-ing. Ich habe das Ragnar-ing. Ich habe das Ragnar-ing. Ich habe das Ragnar-ing. Ich habe das Ragnar-ing. Ich habe das Ragnar-ing. Ich habe das Ragnar-ing. Ich habe das Ragnar-ing. Ich habe das Ragnar-ing.
00:12:40 Oh, wassup? All right, now we use the smoke. Like, Zhao is so accurate. It's hard to argue.
00:12:51 Tau was so accurate, he says he misses the Ragnarok. Well, he's speed juking. I'm eating Kitakami Torps, oh my goodness. That's what you get. That's what you get for trolling Ibagi. The Permaflood 2, yikes. Remember when you got torped by Kitakami in your destroyer? Preverage Farm members. Yeah, I remember. It happened two seconds ago. Remember when you were talking crap to me? You guys were talking shit and then he takes Kitakami Torp.
00:13:20 Torts are fast, man. I like Holland Torts. Aw, are they? They are. They are fast. Guys, I just want you to know that this is actually a personal dream of mine coming through right now. Trash talk Geishu on stream. I get to smack talk Geishu on stream. Geishu used to beat me in clan battles and my clan all the time. That was my goal then, was to just beat Geishu. And it happened sometimes. But most of the time, he won.
00:13:47 But I win every time when I Trash Talk Aishu on stream. I just, I don't lose that matchup. I hope. Finally gets to live his dream. Any man's dream. Every red-blooded American's dream is Trash Talk Aishu. Oh, that's a Prince Van Orange golden. It is a golden ship. Quick, shoot it. Quick, scratch the paint. Here's the key to the gun.
00:14:12 Es ist eigentlich sehr gut für ihn zu spotten hier. Oh, dude! Dude! Okay, so... No! Are you loading AP for that? Yeah. Yeah, I can try to spot him when his smoke comes down. Okay. Oh, he's getting raid-harded by the Salem. Really? Yep. Oh, there he is! Do 203s overmatch his rear? No. Damn it. I'm really hoping it did. But our Salem is going to force him to turn here, so you might still get decent shots off.
00:14:42 Oh, I sit him with HE, don't I? Uh, if you hit very small portions of the deck. They're not huge. Boggy missed again? I'm gonna hit Geiger with like three torpedoes. He's even trying to team kill me now? What's going on? Well, what's happening? Mission to talk trash. I wonder where the Ragnar went. Where's this dude?
00:15:15 Oh crap, please tell me that's it. Thank god. Oh, there's the key to commune. We're gonna do some shooting here. Torpedo tubes destroyed! The... Oh, damn! Prince Banaranya? Throwing down some citadels? Okay.
00:15:38 Oh, bombing me? This is terrible. It's got to be guys' fault. If you get hit by Prince Bombs and Azau, something is very wrong about you. Oh, look how slow they drop. Yeah. That's cute. It's like a 17 second lead time. Damn. Not sure what's going on in the west here. We have our team converging on the B2 square. Yeah. Oh my god, there's a Schlieffen in my face. Oh yeah, look at that.
00:16:09 Can you survive, Mighty Geishu? I'm definitely not dead, but I probably should have used the speed boost there. I was not expecting him to turn into the channel there. I thought he would be going further west. Yeah.
00:16:24 Farm him. Farm him, Boggy. Ich denke, du hast es hart zu farm, Schleifen. Ja, das hat ein paar. Sie haben viele Sturdy Parts, das ist Annoying. All right. Du kennst, wie ich neue Torpedotube Angle habe? Ich habe einen Torpedon in der Montana, und ich habe die Torpedon in den Momentan, und ich habe die Torpedon in den Momentan, und ich habe die Torpedon in den Momentan, und ich habe die Torpedon in den Momentan, und ich habe die Torpedon in den Momentan. Ich habe die Torpedon in den Momentan. Ich habe die Torpedon in den Momentan. Ich habe die Torpedon in den Momentan. Ich habe die Torpedon in den Momentan.
00:16:54 Look at these nice turret angles. Damn. That was finally comfortable to play. This is how Zhao got her groove back.
00:17:11 There comes a time in your WoW's career chat where you don't even look at the Montana behind you. You just know when to reverse and when to go forward. I mean, Zhao vs. Montana is kind of the original troll matchup where the Montana has a pretty hard time hurting the Zhao. Yeah, that's true. Got that 30mm armor all over.
00:17:37 I'm not a dirty borderhumper. You are. I don't know. I see. I can't even read your name tag on the minimaf because it's hopped. Torpedo tube destroyed. Oh man. Damn. Zao back in Clan Wars when? Probably never. Clan Wars you kind of need something bad. Without some very significant shakeups in the meta or the restrictions, it's probably not going back. You kind of need something that can instigate a fight and Zao can't really instigate.
00:18:08 Her time has come and gone. The era of triple Zau in a smokescreen in Clan Battles has passed. Now we have Napoli's. Sometimes when people ask me, they're like, how can you have a whole bunch of ships that don't fit into competitive play? Like, why can't you balance them? I sort of remind them and go like, well, look, not every ship is meant to be played optimally in Clan Battles.
00:18:33 Das ist nicht wie es funktioniert. Some ships sind besser in randoms und nicht so gut in Clan Battles. Some ships sind besser in Clan Battles und nicht so gut in randoms. Personally, ich denke, dass alle 700 ships sind. Ja? Du hast ein Plan für das? Nein. Ich bin sicher, jemand wird es ausprobieren. Ich nomine Scriver. Ich denke Scriver kann es. Oh mein Gott, das Des Moines hat.
00:18:58 I'm not doing too hot this match. No? Schlieffens are kind of annoying battleships to play in 2. Yeah. Yeah, I concur. And eating the Kitakami Torb did not really help. Yeah, that was funny. It was funny for you. Yeah. Smash cut just forever deleting 478 ships from WoW. Yay! It's going to help the Kitakami with HE. I'm so happy.
00:19:25 True, we should have specified that he has to balance them all without just deleting them. Right, yeah he has to balance them without deleting them.
00:19:34 Oh my god. Is that what happened? I wasn't there. Yeah.
00:20:03 I had a very sad game. This was a very sad match of Warships for me. Evan, based off your response, I'm guessing that was a sad day.
00:20:26 Oh, well, sure. Huh, that's interesting. Hm.
00:20:55 I hear Evan saying that people want to design fun ships to play. Gushu is Shoku, Channel 5 News. Evan, is that what you're saying? He's saying that we shouldn't design fun ships? Are you saying we should not design fun ships?
00:21:17 Are the allegations true? Yes, absolutely. True. All true. Cool. Evan's chilling here with us. Just spitting straight facts, right? Kaishu, we're losing. We are losing. What happened? Maybe Boggy should be closer than 17 kilometers away from the closest... I was being chased.
00:21:45 Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ich habe die Schlieffen in die Mitte, so er ist in der Seite auf mich und ich habe zu backen. Montana, eine Direktion, Schlieffen in die andere Direktion. Das ist rough. Okay.
00:22:07 Do I actually still have torpedoes available? I guess so. Did all your torpedoes blow up? Most of them blew up. You have two torpedoes, too, was left? Yeah. Did those die to Battleship AP? Or were they spamming AG at you? I think it was mostly the Prince Vanner on you. He was just spamming AG at me. High-caliber AG? Yeah. He's got good AP, though. He did sit me once. That was pretty scary. Look at that dispersion! Beautiful D dispersion.
00:22:37 The Ragnar is actually dying to the Holland in a gunfight. Do you see that every day? No you don't. Which I'd love to. Is the Holland going to get away? I think he is. Very nice.
00:23:09 This is a wonderful minimap screenshot, by the way. What? Oh, just how red it is? Just boggy behind everybody else on the minimap. Well, again, I can only push so far towards a Schlieff and a Prince von Rania and a Montana. This was like the classic 2015 Game State, where you would have the stealth firings out like 18 kilometers away from everything else so it could stay invisible. Is that right?
00:23:35 Triple fire Monty. Let's go. Cooking him. Oh, he's spamming H at you. Boop. Okay. Very nice. Now we're cooking.
00:23:51 We might actually be able to come away with this. Prince of Anorania? His name is DrinkmoreBleach. Don't do that, chat. Not as good as it sounds. Will not end well. Why are Wargaming so proud to do something buffs and nerfs? They should do every three months normally. Because we do. We do about every three months now. Perhaps you haven't noticed, so I will remind you.
00:24:14 About every three months now, we release a pretty sizable chunk of balance changes. We have done that for over a year now. And that is because we talked with the dev team, said we think that the community would like this. And the dev team said, sounds good. And they agreed to periodically release a large chunk of balance changes. You may have noticed over the last half a year or so that we've had some pretty regular and larger balanced blogs release, which is always nice to see. Yep.
00:24:45 I don't think I need to be nerfed. I think I need to be buffed.
00:25:17 Was Wargaming ever completely removed a ship from the game? Oh, what? No. I don't really think so. Completely removed it from the game. The closest thing I can think of was when the game transitioned from closed beta to open beta to release. Oh. When Kitakama used to be Tier VI. Okay, that's fair. And then also the CV, actually, when we removed the odd tier CVs. Yes, the CVs. They were all out of the torpedo salvo. What?
00:25:47 Die Vreysen pushed onto the Thunderen und slowed both of them down enough, so they each ate one Torpedo, and now they both died. Gotcha. Oh, are we gonna lose? We're gonna lose. Yeah, I think we lose because of that. I'm trying not to get pinched between the Prince of Venerania and the Schlieffen. We both have other day jobs who are only working for William. We are full-time Wargaming employees. My other day job is playing Warships. Yep.
00:26:23 Nah, ich denke wir sind einfach hier. OG Kitakami wurde totally removed? Ja. Aber ich denke, das war von der Transition von Closed Beta zu eigentlich Releasingen der Game, so... Significant changes sind zu erwähnen. Und Tier A Kitakami wurde auch nur ein Menace.
00:26:40 Kitakami ist eine der, wie viel Wargaming kostet? Sure, wir sprechen über das. Warum gehen wir uns auf die Careers-Page und gehen zu den Positionen? Great question! Feel free zu visiten w.careers.wargaming.com. Find out for yourself. Also, tell me ob es mehr als ich bekomme. Ich bin kidding.
00:27:04 Also true, we've been in the same office as Evan for a couple of years now actually. Yep. And haven't quit yet, so there must be some incentive. No, indeed. Evan's a good boss.
00:27:19 Son of a bitch.
00:27:48 Wow. Yikes. I'm impressed. Yeah, but I was saying, unless we do another full comprehensive system change, then we're probably not going to be offering free capture and resets, unfortunately. No, generally we don't.
00:28:03 Oh, that's right, we have to do the tromp. Tromp. I have a mohawk for you, if you'd like. What? So Scott's gonna put a mohawk on me? Yeah. I can dig up my fourth grade pictures and just find myself with a mohawk. Yes, please. You're looking at chat? I'm looking. I'm watching chat.
Detaillierte Analyse der Tromp: Build, Spielweise und Taktiken
00:28:2900:28:29 Beautiful. That looks like... I feel like there's a little bit of discrepancy between the side hair here and the mohawk. Like triceratops horns or something. Alright, I will play Trump to start with, I guess. Do you want to do the breakdown on how to build it? Yeah. Sorry, I guess I can unready. I just gotta change the port so there's not quite so much storm.
00:28:56 Ocean? Ocean. Alright. So, hallo everybody. This is the Trump. We're going to play both the breakdown on the Trump because you chose the Trump last week. First and foremost... You pretty narrowly beat out the Archerfish. I know. I was kind of excited for Archerfish, but oh well. Sorry. No, no, it's fine. First thing to note...
00:29:21 Ah, es ist ein Destroyer. Das ist all, folks, wir sehen uns. Okay, so, uh, you know, es ist funny. Ich gebe advice to some folks in the community, um, every once in a while, who are kind of new, and one of the things they'll say is, like, how do I, when I pick up a new Destroyer, or I unlock a new Destroyer, what do I do first? You know, like, how am I even supposed to approach a new Destroyer? And I was like, oh, that's actually a pretty good question. Uh, well, you need to identify first whether, on one end, you have a Torpedo Destroyer,
00:29:52 Or on the other end, whether you have a gunboat destroyer. Sometimes it can be blended, but realistically there are two types of destroyers. Gunboat and torpedo destroyer. Then there's the hybrids in between, but those are your binary for the most part. The way that you determine is a few things. To determine whether you are a torpedo destroyer, you need to look at your concealment, you need to look at the range on your torpedoes, and the number of torpedoes you have. Step one, can you stealth torp? Right, step one, can you stealth torp? That means...
00:30:20 Do your torpedoes go further than your detection range? So, for example, a Ragnar might not be a torpedo. A Ragnar, lacking torpedoes, is not a torque boat. A Khabarovsk, with like 4km or 6km torpedoes and like 8km detection, not a torque boat. That's a gunboat. The next is to look at the artillery range of your ship compared to your detection and the rate of fire. If you have very good DPM...
00:30:49 Generally speaking, you're probably a gunboat because there's a lot of power in your guns. Gunboats oftentimes will have larger detection ranges because, well...
00:30:59 Das ist einfach so, wie du es gehalten. Wenn du ein Torpedo-Boat bist, ist, dass du ein Torpedo-Boat bist, wenn du ein Torpedo-Boat bist. Wenn du ein Torpedo-Boat bist, ist, dass du ein Torpedo-Boat bist, wenn du ein Torpedo-Boat bist. Wenn du ein Torpedo-Boat bist, wenn du ein Torpedo-Boat bist, wenn du ein Torpedo-Boat bist, wenn du ein Torpedo-Boat bist. Wenn du ein Torpedo-Boat bist, wenn du ein Torpedo-Boat bist, wenn du ein Torpedo-Boat bist, wenn du ein Torpedo-Boat bist. Wenn du ein Torpedo-Boat bist, wenn du ein Torpedo-Boat bist.
00:31:28 What is the concealment on Trump? Well, I have it fully kitted out for concealment. It is 5.9 kilometers. Anything sub-6, that's great. Tier 10, sub-6 kilometer detection for a DD, that is excellent. You are a stealthy destroyer. 6.0 is still pretty stealthy, but that's where it starts to get outside the realm of stealthy destroyer. Okay, so, very stealthy. That's saying maybe it's a torp boat, so let's take a look at the torps.
00:31:55 Two racks of three. Not that many. That's really not that many. How fast do they reload? Every 70 seconds. That's pretty decent. But really, that's not very many. It's kind of more of a secondary armament for the chomp in this case. And it's also good to note that the torpedoes are mounted on the wings. Yep. So you only get one set of three per side. It's not centrally mounted. One set of three torps per side. This is not a torp boat. These are extras.
00:32:20 They do go 12 kilometers, though. That's pretty nice. That means that you can reliably just sort of drop them in a direction and go, I'm just going to see if I hit something there. So, not a torpedo. We've established that. Well, that means it's probably a gunboat. So, we'll close the torpedo thing here. We'll look at artillery. What do we have? 150 millimeter guns. That's pretty big for a destroyer. Most destroyers have sub-150.
00:32:45 These means these are light cruiser caliber guns. They do have that 30mm pen as well, which means you can pen most cruisers at Tier X. 30mm of HE pen, that's great. That means that you are going to do reliably damage to cruisers at Tier X. Not all of them, but pretty reliably. This will not penetrate the base plating of most Tier X battleships. Actually, the base plating of any Tier X battleships. Well, Slava. The base plate's still 32, it's just the bow, right? What?
00:33:14 You lie. I have some extra range on this from the captain skill so I can fire at 15.9 kilometers. That's because I really like to be able to reach out and slap around as many ships as possible. You don't have to take range. But it's got good range, which probably means it's got good ballistics as well. And 6 barrels, 4.6 second reload.
00:33:42 Decent reload time. Yeah, it's not a very, it's not the most DPM for a destroyer. But the range and the ballistics and the alpha definitely makes it a little bit more reasonable. And the pen as well lets you actually apply the damage quite well. Yeah. More than other destroyers which will usually shatter. Realistically, you want to be using these guns to light fires at range. 13.5 kilometers, sorry, 13.5% chance of lighting a fire. With my setup, that's pretty solid. So.
00:34:10 Armour layout, it's a DD, 19mm all around, nothing special. Survivability, however, I have it set up to 29,400 HP. That's a pretty solid slug of hit points for a Destroyer tier 10. However, looking at the equipment, we have no heal. Kashi, what does it mean when your Destroyer doesn't have a heal? It means any damage you take is permanent.
00:34:34 So you're a gunboat with no heal. That's tough. The Haragumo is also a destroyer with no heal. It's a gunboat with no heal. But it has smoke. Smoke is a defensive tool, often, which allows you to prevent damage from coming in by being invisible. Trump doesn't have that. Trump instead has a very nice speed boost. Maximum speed, 25%. And it's got defensive fire. So, no heal, no smoke, gunboat.
00:35:02 Das ist interessant. So was es hat, besides just being a long range gun, but with big guns? Es hat einen Airstrike. It's got two charges of Airstrike. This is what makes it the Trump. It can drop bombs up to 12 kilometers on unsuspecting Ding Dongs, who aren't paying attention. Is that the technical term? It is. It is actually the technical term.
00:35:28 So, what you are encouraged to do then is build and spec your tromp towards your main battery, towards survivability, because you need all the survivability you can get, and towards your airstrikes. So, I've built it this way with modules. We're using the main armaments one. That's just pretty standard for most DDs. I'm using the special engine boost modification because I really, really like that 25% speed boost. That is your primary survivability tool, so anyway you can make it better.
00:35:58 It's a good way to go. He said it. It's your primary survivability tool is this speed boost. This will let you accelerate and decelerate quickly and get up to a high speed so you can dodge incoming fire. This is your primary survivability tool. Let's make it as good as possible. Engine boost mod 1. Best thing you can do. And you don't need the prop. You don't need the other options like engine room protection. That's not a bad one. You don't need it. Because we're going to take last stand.
00:36:27 Obviously, slot 3, you want your guns to be as good as possible, so that one. Acceleration module, super duper good for destroyers. Super duper good in general, I'd say. Yep. Slot 5, detection, because you want that nice 5.9 kilometer crisp concealment. Crisp concealment. I always wanted to say crisp. And in last slot, main battery mod 3. Again, you are a gunboat. You want to be pumping out rounds and lighting fires as fast as possible. If you are crazy, you could take...
00:36:56 But let's not do that. You don't want 18 kilometer drop range? No. And the Auxiliary Armormands Mod 2 does not enhance your airstrike at all, so don't worry about it. In terms of the signals, take the HP flag always, take the AA flag always, because if a CV decides to focus you, you need to get rid of those planes. Speed flag, always on a DD.
00:37:18 Uh, the consumable flag, always, I think, it's just the, obviously, like, these two are the most overall useful ones besides the HP flag now. Uh, and then the fire flags as well. So, captain skills. I have Michel Delreiter, who, uh, is the special commander for the Dutch forces. That's gonna get you an enhanced demo expert. Take it. Why would you not? It's super good. Light more fires.
00:37:47 I think the important ones for Destroyer in general, Last Stand, always. Survivability Expert, always. Concealment, always. And then Adrenaline Rush, there's no reason not to take it. Now, I'm taking Main Battery, AA Expert, because I want the extra 20% range. You don't have to. You can choose to take this off, and you could take Main Battery and AA Specialist instead. That is an option, because this is a really good choice.
00:38:16 was that or fearless brawler or fearless brawler you could do that if you wanted you could take um last stand off you could take these two tier one skills off you could take fearless brawler in fact let's do it i'm doing it i i'm gonna be yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna take
00:38:36 I'm going to take Grease the Gears because they do actually take a while to turn. We'll take Demo Expert. We'll take Survivability Expert. We'll take Concealment. We'll take Fearless Brawler since we don't have Smoke. We'll take Range. We'll take Adrenaline Rush. Now, you could take Adrenaline Rush or you could take Main Battery AA Specialist. It kind of depends on who you are, but I think you're going to be taking damage in this. Adrenaline Rush is a good way to go. So, are you playing a build without Last Stand? Yes, I just said that.
00:39:05 Wow. You could also just take one with fewer fires. The damage farmer build. This is the damage farmer build. I'm going to be a filthy degenerate and we're going to do it. Alright. Anything else to say before we pitch you? Chad did ask if you could take the airstrike mod instead of prop mod, which you certainly can. You'll just be a little bit more focused on airstrikes and a little bit more vulnerable to getting hit by shells because you don't have as good of a capability at juking shells.
00:39:34 TM Grunty says, points out, hello Grunty, points out that demo expert doesn't even apply to airstrikes. He's correct. The bomb, the special skill that I took does not actually make your airstrikes do more fires. But most of the fires I'm getting are going to come from the main battery. And that's what I'm going to be focusing on for the most part.
00:39:55 Clyde points out, if you don't take gun range mod, your torps, your guns, and your airstrikes all have similar range, meaning you basically can affect people with all three from that range. That is a very, very good point. You do not have to take range. One of my least favorite experiences in our game is when I'm sharking around in my DD and I can't interact with stuff because I'm not within range. So I like range as often as possible, but it's true. You do not have to.
00:40:24 Have you considered getting closer? Yes, but I also don't have a Smoke or a Heel. That is true. For gunboats, especially like Chomp, that don't have the highest DPM and rely more on consistent damage over time, shooting at things for a while, having the longer range is very helpful. I think it is. You don't have to agree if you don't want. I mean, you can... I feel like with the main battery range, you're definitely playing at more of a...
00:40:49 Of a pure gunboat trying to keep the guns active. Yeah. If you play it without the range, you're probably looking at more of like a stealthy damage over time kind of build. Where you're trying to set permafires and floods with your torps and the airstrikes and your guns and then going dark for a bit. And you could try it that way. There is nothing wrong with that. I, however, am going to live life dangerously. Another Roosevelt. Spicy. This was a real ship as I understand it as well. Yeah. Trump.
00:41:28 Yes, Chad points out that the Chomp airstrikes are a little bit easier to hit than the Cruiser airstrikes. They have a little bit better lead time. It's true. They are. They're not quite as powerful. They only penetrate 20mm, which is not much. You're mostly looking for superstructure drops on pretty stationary battleships. Or BBs. Sorry. Or fires. You're looking for...
00:41:51 Superstructure hits with the bombs, or you're looking to lightfires with them. Although, if you manage to do near impossible and actually predict a destroyer ball enough to hit it with a chomp airstrike, it will do a lot of damage. You can get some ridiculous hits on destroyers. Sorry. Coming back to Demo Expert, are there any plans to apply the fire chance to airstrike bombs? I am not aware of any plans. I also think that airstrikes are pretty strong already.
00:42:18 und dass die Leute, die viele von ihnen gettet sind, würde wirklich nicht empfehlen. Ich denke, wenn du ein Airstriker bist, wenn du ein Airstriker bist, kannst du ein Airstriker werden. Und Airstrikes drop a lot of small Bombs, usually. So, wenn Demolition Expert applied to each individual Bombs, dann würde es ein ziemlich massiv buff. Oh, ich dachte, das. Weil es ein Airstriker ist. Das ist ein Airstriker.
00:42:49 It's like dropping a grenade from the sky. An incendiary grenade. Someone in the chat in game says, Oh my god, Gaishu, I love you! I found a fan.
00:43:03 Oh, there's a Colbert. Hello, Colbert. Oh, there's a few dudes from beyond. Fun fact about the Tromp as well is that your AP is pretty solid. You can legitimately Citadel light cruisers like Colbert and Minotaur if they give you a little bit of angle. Or not enough angle, maybe I should say. They're not careful enough.
00:43:39 Ich glaube, ich werde mit He here switchen, weil ich glaube, ich werde die Kerr-Verse beherrschen. Hopen, er wird es gespottet. Oh! Daring? Oh. Does Boggy win this fight? Not against the Colbert. Certainly not.
Lehrreiche Niederlage und weitere Spielanalysen
00:44:0600:44:06 Remember when I didn't take last stand? Dude, did I just get surprised murdered by a daring? Is that what just happened? It might be. I think it is.
00:44:17 Fire engine. Everyone Boggy didn't take last stand and got instantly punished. This is some like serious karma right here. Holy shit. I actually punished instantly for not taking last stand. I completely annihilated. Well, it is a boat breakdown. You're just breaking down your boat. Yeah, my boat is broke. So there's a lesson in what not to do, which is don't facetruck the daring with Colbert and support behind. I didn't know he was there.
00:44:47 Damn, dude. What did we learn, Boggy? Well, we learned that every Destroyer takes last stand no matter what. No matter how greedy you're feeling. Oh. Sorry. And then also, uh... Yeah, I did not expect that. I did not expect to get face-checked by Daring.
00:45:05 Well, so be it. I'm going to go get myself up. He's just going to die and get up and leave. Oh my goodness. There he goes. There goes Boggy. Oh, we're down three ships and a couple of buffs. Definitely not amazing. Amazing spot to be in. Maybe we can win this flank. We'll see.
00:45:33 Wow, Chat just called Boggy a really good player. He'll be so happy when he comes back. Take RPF on your DD, also a viable option. I don't think Boggy considered that one. Let me get some cheeky shots here. Maybe I should load HE.
00:46:00 Ich habe auch schon gesehen, dass ich auch schon gesehen habe. Ich habe auch schon gesehen, dass ich auch schon gesehen habe.
00:46:41 I will load HE now and see if we can maybe get a shot off on the Wisconsin here before he goes behind the rock. Should be at a safe angle now.
00:47:05 Das sucked. Ich will blame you when we lose. Match is looking pretty grim. We still only have one buff.
00:47:39 Well, we did just get the Aranya. Oh, Boggy. We've had a bit of a rough day so far, huh? I've been having it easy. I had a 300k Des Moines game earlier. Just saying. I had a pretty good day. I guess I meant rough day on stream. Oh, okay. I just devstruck the Colbert. Oh. Not too bad.
00:48:07 I think I actually got lucky there. I think I underled him a little bit and it kind of dispersed into his citadel. He said, what an honor. What an honor to get killed by Geisus. This is one of the benefits of playing Battleship is you can not aim correctly and still blow people up. Uh oh, Bugsy is stress eating. Nice to see you are human.
00:48:36 Boggy's not just a Wows robot. The problem is at lower tiers, the credit gain is so low. It took me a week at tier 5 to get 9 mil credits to buy the Monarch. I think generally speaking, if you don't have a premium ship and you want to grind out credits, usually tier 6, 7, and 8 is where you want to be. Yeah, tier 6 is the best credit. It depends. Generally speaking, if you have a tier 6 or 7 ship you're really good at.
00:49:06 There are plenty of ways to get premiums, by the way. Yeah, we actually give out a fair amount of especially lower tier premiums for various free to grind ways. Coal, you can get a premium for coal. That's true too. That's a really good way because coal is pretty freely available. Sorry. So again, if you're free to play, which it sounds like you might be, there's also a lot of opportunities to get free premium time.
00:49:33 Hmm. The rest of those ships are pretty much full HP. Not really ideal.
00:49:58 Er wurde smashed. R-U-D-I-M gesagt, go play the test server and get some rewards. I forgot about that. You can get a lot of free stuff for playing PTS. That's definitely true.
00:50:17 See if I can not overextend urine. What's a fun premium ship to use continually to earn credits? Chat. This is a question for all of you. Help them out. Help them out. Because we all have our own favorite premiums. My favorite premium to play is the A-gear. Tier 9 German cruiser. It's my favorite. We know about you. We know. We know. Remember when I die instantly? Yeah, I do.
00:50:48 Ist das der Daring-Shooting AP at me? Oh my goodness. Gotta get rekt by this Roosevelt. Oh my goodness. But yes, if you're relatively new to the game and you want to stay free to play, save your coal, get a coal ship. Because there are lots of premiums for coal. And then, I don't know, you could ask friends, ask Reddit, you could...
00:51:13 Es gibt ein paar Leute, aber ein Tier VII Premium oder ein Tier VI Premium ist eine sehr gute Möglichkeit zu bekommen. Ich kann nicht, dass Bogsy nicht Fennjärg hat. Ich mag Fennjärg mehr. Ich kann nicht, dass es nicht Fennjärg ist. Ich kann nicht, dass es nicht Fennjärg ist.
00:51:31 Come on, Gaishu. Get out there and joust that Wisconsin with your torfs. Oh, here it comes. Oh, you did okay. I'm about to get absolutely... Oh, no, it's only one thing. Oh, what are these torfs? What are these torfs? It's like a dance. No blood, though. You got gedanked. Two fires. I'm dead. Goodbye, cruel world.
00:51:55 This is probably Bogsy's fault. Perhaps we should exit battle and try again. Boggy wants a redo. I do. I'm really sorry, guys. Remember when I was like, I need range. I need range mod to get really far. He ran it down mid and facetracted airing and blew up because he didn't have last stand. What a ding dong. Should I play Chomp 2 so we have two chances of going well?
00:52:19 Yes, you should. Guy, she was like, how do I ensure that our stream has the content we promised? Just quickly inspect my build to make sure I don't have anything too crazy. Remember when the Mighty Moe was a good credit farmer? It still is, Zeke. It's a premium tier 9. That's great for grinding credits. Anybody who had the Missouri before we re-released it as well also got a baked-in credit bonus to keep it earning extra credits.
00:52:48 It's just that once we re-released it, we tuned down the credits. Remember when Missouri completely broke the in-game economy? It did. I suppose we could have just not re-released it at all.
00:53:00 Make a lot of credits in Operations. That's also true. Operations are also a great way to farm some credits with the lower tier ships, especially if you are very familiar with the Ops and can kind of maximize your damage output. Okay, guys. Sorry, we're not trying to pick on you, Ouija. It's just that you are asking really good questions, especially for newer players. For Tier VII Premium...
00:53:20 Ouija hat Leningrad, Boise, Scharnhorst 43, and Lugdenum. So Leningrad and Scharnhorst 43 are both amazing ships. I think Scharn especially is definitely on the easier side to play because it's a nice tanky battleship. Super good. So that's a fantastic option, especially when there are smaller formats like Ranked that allow Tier 7. Scharn 43 is a wonderful pick for that. So yeah, Scharn 43 and Leningrad. Leningrad also is because it's...
00:53:46 It's a fast destroyer with good ballistics on its guns. Lights lots of fires. Great boat. They both will make good credits. Lugdenum is also good. I think it's harder to play. Well, it's a little bit squishier than the Sharn is for sure. Yeah. It's guns, oddly enough. I know that Lugdenum has super not reliable guns, but since there's so many of them. You do have 16. You do have 16. If you just spam HE, you will do well.
00:54:11 Whereas Schornhorst, Schornhorst has strange guns. And it's kind of, you kind of need to know what you're doing. Low caliber AP with short fuses, I think, still.
00:54:25 I think it's just that the guns on Scharnhorst, on all the Scharnhorst, are just kind of wall-eyed. Yeah, I mean, they're not really battleship guns. They're 283mm, so you'll have a rough time without overmatch versus the most cruisers, for example. Then you're not citadeling battleships. So you kind of have to have some ammo selection discipline there. Load HE versus the bowen stuff. Watch me get torped right out of the gate.
00:54:51 Das ist ein Parashima. Das ist ein Hoffmann. Es könnte passieren. Es könnte. Es könnte passieren. Oder du kannst. Das ist ein Schlieffentorz. Tier VI German BB an Halt ist 138k Kohl. Ja, das ist ein guter, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du, wenn du.
00:55:31 Ich möchte in der Airstrike-Range für den Slibertad. Wenn ich Face-Track die Annapolis hier bin, würde ich so sad sein. Oh, da ist ein Main. Oh, Face-Tracking a Destroyer. Da ist ein Shima near C. Main ist so viel besser als die Backup.
00:55:55 We're droppin' bombs boi
00:56:07 Did I miss? I totally missed my airstrike on the main. I didn't. Oh, look what I found, it's a Shima. You think a Shima dropped Torps and he's gonna kill us now? Yep. I should probably have been shooting him this whole time. Oh, there are Torps, there are Torps, Torps, Torps, Torps, Torps, Torps, Torps. Yes, Boggy found the Torpedos. Aww. I found the Torps. Boggy ate a Torp. I ate a Torp. I ate a Torp. I'm really glad that...
00:56:38 You played Trump. You're not dead yet. No. I just got a fire in the main. But, that being said, I am at 6,000 HP because I ate a Shima Torp. That is not a substantial amount of hit points, for sure. Because life is not fair. If life was fair, the Torp wouldn't have hit you. One might say life was fair because the Shima aimed his Torp correctly and got rewarded for it. He did.
Intensive Gefechtssituation und Taktische Anpassungen
00:57:0600:57:06 You're not my friend anymore. Hey, we got 1800 damage. Rejoice. I wonder if that was a DCP or just the fire running out. I think chat's roasting me about that torpedo hit.
00:57:31 Okay, I think I have to stop shooting. There's a Main, a Libertad, and an Henri just going for it. Yep, I definitely have got to stop shooting here. Do not want to be in the Libertad secondary range for too long. Now, I did just take some rudder and engine damage, but fortunately I have the two-point skill called Last Stand, which allows me to move. Whatever. Whatever, nobody cares. Nobody cares.
00:57:57 Did you change your build or do you still not have it? I still don't have it. Oh my goodness. Living like dangerly. Living on the edge.
00:58:07 Oh, the Maiden did DCP, so if you land some bombs... Oh, I cut fire on the... The Shima... Oh, the Hoffman. I think there's a Hoffman and a Shima over here. That is definitely true. The Shima's in the cab. Oh, okay. Hoffman's on the 9-10 line. They're gonna talk to this Monty who's just sitting broadside to him. He's like, why isn't this Tromp smoking for me? God. Smoke Tromp.
00:58:41 Yeah, Monty is feeling the pain for sure. It's rough. Did it just set a fire on the Libertad?
00:59:08 Another fire on the main with the bombs. Lovely. He speeded the broken engine again. I'm laughing because he broke my engine. Only there was some way to prevent this.
00:59:40 No way to prevent this, says man with build where this only regularly happens. What are you going to do, punch me in the face? Says man punched. Got another two fires on the, oh no, one fire on the Henry, one on the Riverton.
01:00:10 I think I got a Permafire on the Henry there. Maybe you might try spotting him here so I can airstrike him. Oh, got the Witherer. The Blau got killed. That's cool. Guys, name the game now. Don't die so that we have content. Hell yeah. This is the way. Is he going to move? What do we think? I don't think so. I think he's just going to sit there.
01:00:39 Can't wait to be wrong instantly. Oh, I think he started moving too late. Yeah, we're gonna hit some bombs. Beautiful. Versetting fires. Oh, there's a Hoffman chasing me. What? Help. Oh, dude, he's chasing us both. Help, Boggy. Alright, well, we're in it to win it now. Thank God Boggy shot so I can go dark and not die now.
01:01:09 Actually, we're gonna wreck this guy. Yeah, I'm turning my guns. So, Trump's guns... Wait, I'm gonna kill him with the airstrike! I'm gonna kill him with the airstrike! Oh, I got him. That airstrike totally would've hit him.
01:01:30 Must go dark, must go dark, must go dark, must go dark, must go dark, must go dark. Run Boggy, run. Dark, dark, dark, dark. It is with San Martens, so it's pretty unlikely to kill you there. Yeah, there's just the Libertad on the other side too. Oh, I got him with three bombs that did no damage. Alright. Farm those ribbons. I know.
01:01:58 Hoping to get spots on the Schlieffen hier, there we go. Let's drop some bombs. Monsau, get in there. Get in there and fight the San Martin. Be my hero. Oh, Schlieffen's eating some Torps here. That Henri's just chillin'. That Schlieffen just got absolutely erased, those Rashima Torps. Rashima's been putting in work this game.
01:02:28 Oh, theirs? Ours? Oh, well, that's good. And theirs, because he landed a Torque on you, I suppose. Alright, I think it's time to push in a little bit again.
Strategische Manöver und Überlebensinstinkte im Gefecht
01:02:5301:02:53 A guy should be like, oh no, help me, and runs away. Meanwhile, Bogsy fighting with his 5k points to save. My plan worked. Boggy got the kill. I survived. No harm was done. It's like this Napoli sharking around behind us is just making me nervous. Yep, definitely not. I don't really want to be fighting a Napoli with a ship like Tromp, to be honest.
01:03:22 Du kannst ihn wirklich nicht in vielen Bereichen, weil der Armourplatte ist. Er ist fast und maneuverable genug, um die Airstrikes zu vermeiden. Oh, die Lens und Bombs sind auf der Skye. Vielleicht auf der Rear, da ist er noch ein Feuer.
01:03:51 Oh, see that? 5k AP salvo into the side of the Henri. Yeah, let's get them. Get them. 4k. Nice dodge. Poggy laughing in Glee. I know. Well, it's just funny when you have no HP left. You're like, get ready. Now we just need to survive this Napoli, really.
01:04:27 Remember, Chad, you're never done if you say you're done. It's not over, Chad, it's over. Ooh, Libertad eating a Torp. Hopefully DCPs. Is he gonna keep reversing? That's the question. Nope, he's going forward. He's totally not going forward.
01:04:54 Oh, he is going forward, but it's not. I thought his Accel would be a little bit faster. Bummer. I did not realize I still had AP loaded there. I'm in a kind of awkward position here if the Napoli just runs at me.
01:05:33 We get bombs? Bombs for me? Alright, fine. Try to focus on not beaching here. Sorry guys, we're like hyperboating. Yeah. I landed a torbid, didn't get the flood.
01:06:01 Friesadge. Ich werde die Zau be my focus. Ich werde ihn focus. Go forward, Neville. Go forward. Why is the Libertad faster than I am? Why did my game freeze? I don't know. Damn it. Damn it. I might be dead, Boggy. No, live. You must live. I might be dead. You get 7k HP. That's so much more than you need. Okay, he just went dark.
01:06:31 Ja, wir gut. Wir chillen. Wir chillen.
01:07:00 Oh, the bomb prediction looks pretty good there. Oh, got another fire. Zhao, I need you to... I need you to spot the San Barton, brother. The Destroyer asks his Cruiser to spot. Destroyer's on 1,000 HP. Come on, dude. Oh, am I gonna land the Torp on his very stern? Oh, so close.
01:07:32 Okay, I need to spot the San Martin. So she's out and she's shot. And then the San Martin shoots back at the Zap. That's how this has to work. Okay, there we go. I just totally all-punished for it. I thought I could pull off the slowdown. Guys, you got punched in the face. Whoops. Now Libertad is very close to being dead. I also thought my bombs would set a fire there. They didn't.
01:08:00 I think I just threw. I think I just threw the game. How am I spotted? That's my question. Oh no, the Libertad. You can actually see me. This is a disaster. It's because of the extra main gun range, Boggy. It is. It's legitimately because of the extra main. Live! Live, Boggy! Things just bounced off my deck.
01:08:19 Rejoice. Our Bilal might get the Libertad here. I can't believe that. I was spotted by the Libertad because I took extra gun range. This is a PR disaster. Oh, I think the Bilal gets the Libertad here. Oh yeah, he totally got some. Nice, nice.
Entscheidungsfindung in der Endphase und Analyse der Spielsituation
01:08:4301:08:43 Okay, they've got no DDs left. There's five minutes left. I need to probably go for C. Yeah, we might need to back cap them here. Yeah, because they're going to take B, and that'll be enough. I don't know if there's time. This is going to be rough. Yeah, I mean, we do have the Zao still on the field. Their main is kind of low. I think the Napoli and Sed Martin are both kind of healthy, though.
01:09:09 Oh, ja, der Main ist 2k hit points. Zau kann ich ihn aufhören. Ich denke, wenn Zau das Zau finishes ihn hier, dann... ...we might actually have the points that just went on one cap. Es ist ein 100-point-swing. Oh, es ist. Oh, der Napoli ist ziemlich low, too. Come on, Zau. Oh, er ist die Napoli. Okay.
01:09:32 You should listen to the voices. Oh god, why is Zhao shooting the Napoli? I mean, I'm okay with it for now. They're both so low, they're both so low. Is it? Okay. He might be able to, yeah, he can get a shot on the main here through the islands maybe. He's doing a good job. He's got 30k HP or, yeah. Bonk, nice job. Main, well done. Or Zhao, sorry. Oh, I think our Blau's getting run over by the Martin here though because it has Hydro. It has Hydro. And he's inside the...
01:10:01 I think he's going to be inside the torpedo range. Yeah. Uh oh. The question is, do I try to find a place to shoot and fight the Napoli, or do I just go for C? The Napoli does only have 3k, and I think he's going to go for A to try to help fight the Zaun. So I think you're actually probably in a decent spot to go for B. For B, okay. You might even be able to shoot over the islands to help out. Let's see, does the Mardin have his hydro up?
01:10:30 I'm not seeing the Bilal getting Depth Charge yet, so I have to assume no. Oh yeah, he totally got away. Zhao vs. Martin? Ooh, he got a Citadel there. Nice hit, Zhao. Way to use AP. I'm kind of surprised he got the Citadel at that angle. It's wild. Oh, our Bilal's running out of Depth Time. He's going to have to surface here. But will he get the Torps? Will he get the Torps?
01:11:00 Oh, he's surfacing. He has to surface. I wonder if he's going to see the Napoli. Oh, he does. Okay. So I got to try and shoot this Napoli without getting killed by his secondaries. Come on, give me a fire. Get him, Boggy. I think the Zhao finishes the Barden here. Yep. Okay, I think we're good. I think we're good.
01:11:31 Don't go forward, stay where you are.
01:11:43 Six non-pens, one pen, no fire. The Napoli moment. It has no superstructure. Yeah, right? Feels Napoli, man. Well, we are up quite a bit on points. I'm going to step on B. There's two minutes left. He could come around the corner and kill me. He could. In theory. He could also dev strike that Zao if the angle's correct. Both of those things could happen. Many things could go horribly, horribly wrong. Will Bogsy clutch or will he throw? I think I'm not going to sit in this cap. I think I'm just going to go between the islands here because...
01:12:13 Ja, ich bin ganz sicher, wir gewinnen auf einen cap. Ich habe den... Wir haben zu. Was wir denken, kann der Napoli kommen um den corner und einfach Blast-Bogsy hier? Das ist sehr gut was, was könnte passieren. Ich denke, ich glaube, ich werde nicht riskieren. Ich denke, ich werde nicht riskieren. Run, Boggy. Was ein scaryes Ding. Es ist eine Minute left. Ich blockade die cap für ein bisschen.
01:12:40 See, one minute they get three points every five seconds to close the gap. Yeah, we're more than fine. More than fine. Negative! The guy wants me to go first. Step on it? No, no, no. No, no, no. No, not today, Satan.
01:13:07 Maybe go forward a little bit more Boggy. I'm going to blind drop. Where could he be? I think he's going right through here, so I'm going to blind drop. Yeah, I mean, I think the Zaal would have spotted him if he was going for A, so he has to be circling back for B. Yeah. I mean, he might come through the gap behind you. No. Could he? I think he could. Oh my god. Okay, he doesn't spot you. He doesn't spot you. It's fine.
01:13:36 Ihr solltet ihn, DM. Ihr solltet ihn nicht. Ihr solltet ihn nicht. Ihr solltet ihn nicht. Ihr solltet ihn nicht. Ihr solltet ihn nicht. Ich habe einen Non-Penn. Das war cool. Das war cool. Ich habe versucht zu retten den Favoren nach dem letzten Match. Damn, dude.
01:14:01 Ich glaube, ich habe eine Art Palpitation. Ich habe 123k Fire Damage das Spiel. Really? Ich habe 233k. Was? Ich habe ein paar Damage. Oh, ich habe ein Liebertaut. Ich habe 75, aber... Ich habe ein paar Damage. Ich habe ein Torpedo wie ein Dummy in der Beginn. Gut auf das Zau. Du hast das sehr gut.
Spielanalyse und Strategiediskussionen
01:14:2301:14:23 Zao clutched it out. Bro. That was less stressful. That was a little stressful. Do you all know how to play Tromp now? I mean, you guys can see, like, are there better outright gunboats? Yeah. Are there better outright tortboats? Oh, yeah.
01:14:46 Are there better all-round boats? Yeah. None of them have airstrikes? None of them have airstrikes. Tromp can legit clutch some stuff. I could have killed that Napoli there with that airstrike. I didn't because I'm a ding-dong. But I landed seven bombs on that Napoli. Tromp has the unique feature of being able to apply damage through cover with the airstrikes.
01:15:11 Super good. It is very niche. It also makes for some great moments when you're like, am I going to clutch this or not? Admiral Lemon says he was the opposing main. GG. I'm sorry for the endless bomb and fire spam on you. Yeah, sorry about that. You did great, by the way. Oh, and yeah, take that last stand. Who needs you? Man. I think I would have died several times over a little bit earlier if I didn't take it. I'm going to just do this right now.
01:15:40 I have the doubloons. I can do it. You're going to be... He's going to take Last Stand. Alright, look. I think range is really useful because, again, it's how you preserve your HP. Look, I enjoy a destroyer build without Last Stand when you're trying to do some damage farming, but usually on ships that have tools to mitigate...
01:15:59 was happens when you do lose your engine. Like Harigumo, for example, I think you can feasibly run without Last Stand if you're damage farming, but it has a smoke. So if you're really in a tough spot, you can just smoke. I'm going to sacrifice the Demo Expert for Last Stand. I would rather just have the gun DPM over the extra fire chance. So there you have it. I stand corrected.
01:16:26 Moral of the day, don't use Bogsy's build. My build is not why I took a torpedo, okay? Don't trash the build. Trash the dummy playing the build.
01:16:38 Oh, ja, der Daring Colbert. Oh, ja, der Daring in der ersten Match. Das war real bad.
01:17:07 So, Trump is an unorthodox pick. It's for Cole, as I understand it, right? Yeah. Yeah, Trump is for Cole. It's an unorthodox pick. It has long-range, high-caliber guns for a DD. It has a cool speed boost, but mainly its strength and utility relies on the airstrike, which I would say is less of a reliable damage-dealing thing and more of a, this is really fun. I would agree. It's definitely, I would say, one of the most unique destroyers in the game.
01:17:36 Plays quite a bit differently from every other VD. Yep.
01:17:41 I wonder what some other destroyers are. If you want to annoy battleships, Trump is just awesome. You're just endlessly earth striking them and setting them on fire. I almost feel like Trump is like the anti-Elbing. Elbing is a big destroyer with no heal that shoots incredible AP at long distances. To me, Trump is a big destroyer with no heal that shoots HE at incredibly long distances with good ballistics.
01:18:10 But it has an airstrike. It drops bombs. Tromp equals swamp elbing. Swamp elbing. I haven't heard that one before. I'll give you that. It's pretty good. What are some other crazy... Gdansk is a pretty crazy DD. Really unusual. Lots of guns, lots of DPM. All HE, of course. Yeah, but it's got a radar and a smoke. Short range duration radar, short duration smoke.
01:18:40 Ich sehe Lushun in der Chat, eine ziemlich Unique Destroyer. Ich sehe nicht viel, eigentlich. Es ist zu schlecht. Lushun ist gut. Ich weiß nicht, warum Leute nicht mehr spielen. Es ist ein bisschen... Ich will nicht sagen 1-Dimensional, aber es ist sehr AG Spam-focused. Es ist. Und es ist sehr slow. Und es hat die super-gut-heal, und es hat keine Smoke, so wenn du in ein bader Situation bist, ist es schwer zu heal. Du einfach nur die Dive.
01:19:07 Lucien ist definitiv ein open water gunboat mit einem Heel. Und es hat deep waters, right? Ja. Das ist eine interessante Bote, though. Es ist lustig, das ist ein Dockyard Ship. Ich fühle mich, die Leute vergessen, das ist ein Dockyard Ship. Let's see, was noch etwas ist? Wir haben ein paar Minuten left. Regolo und Druid sind für sicher...
01:19:28 Unusual ships. Also very unusual ships. Guys, she was playing Regolo earlier. Guys, I had such a miserable Regolo game. How do we describe how to play Regolo? What is it for? What does it do? I would describe how to play Regolo if I knew how. But obviously I don't know how because I finished last place on the team. The Italian DDs are very fast. They have big guns. They're like 135 generally. Let's just talk about the 010. It's got lots of them. So it has 8 barrels.
01:19:57 in 4 turrets of 135. The 135, they fire sap, which for a DD against other DDs is really powerful. Yeah. 8 guns with sap with 3k alpha is a lot of alpha damage. Yeah, that's bananas. And short-term engagements with other destroyers, you can really slap them around with their golem. But it's got T-Rex arms for range. It has like, this is the range. And the problem there is that...
01:20:24 you are also outspotted by almost everything. You've got 7.2km best detection. Regolo is usually, I'd say it usually plays like what I would describe as a second-line destroyer. Usually if you can, you want to be playing behind those generalists or cap-contesting destroyers like the Gearrings and the Dairings. If you have Shimos, for example, you can play behind them. Anything that has the good concealment, if you can act as a second-line destroyer right behind them and help them out with the destroyer fights, Regolo does a fantastic job at that. Becky with the good concealment. Yeah, I mean...
01:20:54 Es ist wirklich schwierig, weil die Detektion auf Regalo ist so schlecht, dass man nicht in die Fälle mit anderen Destroyern kann. Sie werden sehen Sie first und entscheiden, oh, nope, nope, nope, nope. Ihr Base Range ist nicht genug zu sparen mit Destroyers, sorry, mit Kruisers. Und generell, Kruisers will beat you up. Ihr Range ist also... Das ist ein Big Target, die Hull ist sehr large. Sie sind huge. Die Range ist also nicht genug genug zu wirklich standoff mit Battleships. Weil es ist nicht.
01:21:22 So... You basically, I think to find success with Rigolo, you really have to get really good use out of your engine boost and your exhaust move. Yes. Where you kind of can play around that edge of the 12km range if you're using the range mod plus the skill formerly known as AFT. Here's the question for you. Do you take Dazzle or do you take Fearless Brawler? I don't think I'd take Dazzle on my Rigolo, but maybe I should. Why not?
01:21:48 Es gibt einen Hefty Speed Boost, wenn man lit wird. Der Speed Boost ist eigentlich ziemlich solid. Ja. Ja. Even though es hat einen Short-Range, so wenn man 11 Kilometer mit dem Cruiser hat, dann wird man das. Aber wenn man die Smoke nicht mehr hat, dann gibt man ein Radar. Oder wenn man die Turbo Speed Boost hat. Oder wenn man die Turbo Speed Boost hat. Der Chad-Way ist, dass man die Speed Boost hat. Dann, wenn jemand ein Schatz hat.
01:22:15 like a Destroyer, when something takes a shot at you and lights itself to your allies, that's when you hit your smoke, you disappear, and you beat up that Destroyer as long as it's lit. But damn, if that's not a very niche playstyle. You control some battleships. If you take AFT, like Gaisu said, which is, it's not called AFT anymore, but Main Battery Expert.
01:22:36 That extra 20% range is like everything. So even with that, even with 20% extra range, my range is 11.5. You have to take the range mod in Sloth 6 as well if you want to have a... Yeah, which, let's see, if I change that over, then my range goes to 13.4. That's pretty decent, actually. You can actually farm a BB now if you want to. That is what I would describe as usable gun range.
01:23:03 Ergolo still is a very big target, so if the speed boost is down, you're going to get smashed by a lot of things. So again, one of the ways that I try to play it is use the speed boost, do some speed juking while it lets up. When the speed boost is down, use the Azox smoke, go dark for 50 seconds, keep shooting, and then your speed boost will be back up in about a minute from that. Guys, we're gonna see if Kaishu recognizes this phrase. Oh. Use the boost to get through! Nope.
01:23:32 Okay, he said use the speed boost. Use the boost to get speed through. Use the boost to get through. Chat, anybody? Use the boost to get through. You're becoming more like your father.
01:23:45 Hey Einstein, I'm on your side. Alright. Do a barrel roll. Do a barrel roll. The first level of Star Fox to me was every big box department store in like 1997 because they all had N64 demos of Star Fox playing. The new 3D Star Fox was like the most important thing to a middle schooler ever.
01:24:13 One of these days I'm going to show you what an N64 looks like. I think the oldest console I owned was a GameCube. Aww. Long time ago. Oh god, that kills me. I bought a GameCube in 2001. Right before my friends and I went to see the premiere of Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring.
01:24:37 We bought the GameCube with our hard-earned cash. We bought an extra controller so that we could play Super Smash Bros. Melee, which is all we wanted. And then we had to wait to actually play it because we were going to see the premiere of Fellowship of the Ring. Then we came back after three and a half hours of movie and we played Smash Bros. on the GameCube all night long. We did not sleep because life was perfect.
01:25:06 We're going to be going to raid Overlord Bo, if I'm not mistaken. Yep, there he is. We're going to go raid Bo, so please throw him a follow. He's a fun guy. Hopefully he's wearing his poop hat. The classic Bo hat. Alright, I had a lot of fun tonight. We'll see you guys next week on the next community stream, and until then, have a good week. Bye.