Charity Cup Tournament ! Group Stages - Day 1

Charity Cup: Evasive Maneuvers vs. Welp Drive Activate – Taktische Analysen

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- 29.03.25 - 04:33:14 - 16.815 - EVE Online

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Das Charity Cup Turnier beginnt mit Analysen zu Evasive Maneuvers und Welp Drive Activate. Der Fokus liegt auf Neutralisierung und EWAR. Sedition und Bright Side of Death setzen auf ähnliche Bannstrategien, was auf Octo-Setups hindeutet. Lazy Piglets dominieren Former Valve Desidents dank EWAR.

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00:07:16 The first day of the Charity Cup. Well, past the feeders anyway. This is sort of the main body of the tournament. First up, we've got evasive maneuvers and whelp drive active. I'll go ahead and win that.

00:07:38 From the feeders, what are you thinking about these two teams? Are we going to see something crazy from them in this match, maybe? The thing is, we've had two weeks since the last feeders. So they could either bring the exact same stuff they know they're good with, or they're going to adapt. And that's... It's going to go one or two different ways. I don't know about these particular teams doing either of those. Evasive, I think, are pretty competent, so they might just stick with what they know. But Welp Drive, I don't know. I think they're a wildcard.

00:08:07 I think it'll definitely be interesting for sure. Now, Mr. Debs, these bans! We have Evasive Maneuvering banning the Tholos, the Broadsword, and the Hyena. Welp Drive Active banning the Typhoon, Sentinel, and Ashmu. Talk to me, what do you think these bans are speaking to us about? What are they trying to avoid?

00:08:30 So Typhoon, Sentinel, Ashmu, we're avoiding long-range webs to some degree, right? There's obviously other ships to do that, but that's the primary thing that you're banning with the Ashmu. Sentinel, you don't want to see TDs. Typhoon probably means you don't want to see Kite. So that says to me, I don't want long-range things. I don't want things that will stay away from me. I don't want a Kite comp, anything like that. Hopefully they've got a plan for a Hyena if they see one, because that's the other long-range ship.

00:08:59 On the other side, kind of rushy bands. So it's one team doesn't want to see a kite and one team doesn't want to see a rush to me, which both interesting things to see because maybe one team brings the rush that they don't want and are faced with the kite that they don't want, which would be really fun.

00:09:21 Yeah, just going off of the metadata from the feeders, honestly, I'm not predicting anything, but Octo was really popular. I'm wondering if we're going to maybe see a mirror match this time around.

00:09:38 If we do see a mirror match, what do you think a decisive factor would be? It's always about target calling, flying and piloting in many different ways. Everyone needs to know what they're doing, exactly when to do it, and react quickly enough to do it right. And just practice, man. A lot of people need to practice these comps enough to know exactly what to do with it. And, well, some teams do it very, very, very, very, very well.

00:10:04 Well, they've definitely had time to practice this week. Do you think maybe having that extra week, Debs, to maybe get some feels out, see, okay, look at the meta, go from there, do you think that extra week maybe helped or hurt them? It can go both ways. Generally speaking, it'll help, but there is always the possibility that you look at the meta from the feeders because everybody did go through it.

00:10:31 You look at that meta and you say, oh, it's Octo. It's always Octo. That's the winning thing. And then you get yourself into a position where what you do is you just plan to fight Octo. And someone will bring something slightly unexpected. And because you have gotten yourself into this mentality of, well, it must be the Octo. That's what everybody brings every time. Now you're making yourself vulnerable to that. That's why Octo is so good. It can basically adapt to most concept fights.

00:10:59 So if you start countering it, you can only really fight it. And then if they bring something else, you're kind of screwed. Unless you've got the right tools, of course.

00:11:09 Of course. And that's something that these teams are going to have to definitely take into account of potential Octo, Shockto kind of things. And seeing if maybe somebody doesn't sneak out maybe an armor control or a kite or a rush. Seeing just what they can do with this format and the rules that go into it. I do

00:11:38 I would like to. You guys will see the mods. You'll see ISD Forgefire. You'll see quite a few people talking about a charity. This is a charity cup.

00:11:55 This is a family story, this is why we're doing it. Weston Hospice Care, who is absolutely fantastic, who we've shared a lot of personal stories on the back end. That's where everything is going for all of the money from this charity drive.

00:12:17 Ja, es ist wichtig für alle auf diesem Team. Wir haben unsere eigenen kleinen Connections zu es. So, als ein Heads-Up, wenn Sie sehen, das ist das was das whole Cup ist für. Wir bringen awareness zu diesem und...

00:12:34 It's for a good cause. So, we're just happy to be here and just going through AT style, in this case Charity Cup style, for a lovely, fantastic charity close to all of our hearts. Alright, so...

00:12:53 With that, it does look like teams have landed in the arena, or are currently landing in the arena. Let me go ahead and throw it over to Commentary.

00:13:19 Welcome to the Arena, my name is Fear Vina, I am joined by the lovely Phantomite, and we are getting ready to go with the first match of the group stage. It is evasive maneuvering on the red side. They have brought what appears to be an Octo setup of their own. What have Welp Drive Activate brought?

00:13:43 It looks to me like there's going to be plenty of ECM involved in this fight. Something that can really harm an enemy team. But it looks like we've got two of those this time. So I'd imagine that the first thing that they're going to be looking to do is desperately try and perhaps kill that kit soon. And that can be difficult for them. We haven't seen a whole lot of success with these jam setups.

00:14:07 in Feeders, so it's a bit interesting to see it. Scorpion doesn't bring a whole lot in the play of DPS, and Kitsune, obviously, we see a lot of Ewar Frigs, so that's not really factoring into the equation. They have a Jackdaw, an Orthris, and a Cyclone Fleet for the rest of their DPS. Well, this is a Hyperion on Pandey. I'm going to take a look at it, just to see if it is Rails or Blasters.

00:14:31 But while I do that, what are your thoughts as we are counting down into the first match of the day? My thoughts are, you know, we've got 17 seconds to go, is that going double EWAR in a tournament like this is an incredibly ballsy move in some ways, because, you know, this is a greatly reduced number of players per team compared to something like the Alliance tournament. They have certainly decided to spend heavy on that control.

00:15:00 And with that, we are now underway.

00:15:05 Looking at how the teams are burning, it looks like Burnback from the low end of Evasive Maneuvering while the Devoter starts moving in, trying to potentially screen this Orthrus, who is also burning in. As the Scorpion is kind of just sitting in place at the moment, this carry is being taken down very low. He's in structure already, but he might be able to get out with Transversal as Yatalina actually stays alive, and now the Logitrade is coming down from Evasive Maneuvering. They're onto this Osprey.

00:15:34 Es ist natürlich auf der Osprey, aber die Sache ist, wenn sie das Carrier aufhalten können, das Carrier könnte es die einzige, die sie von dem E-War entfernt haben. Das E-War ist, dass sie zurückgezogen werden. Und das E-War ist, dass sie das Osprey zurückgezogen haben, aber es hat sich zurückgezogen, und es scheint nicht zu tun, wie es ein Minutes gemacht hat.

00:15:56 Yeah, it's burned away from the rest of the squad as this Orthrus is trying to get maybe something a bit forward to the rest of the team alongside the Cyclone fleet issue. We see them trying to trade onto this Augur right now as the Osprey is now being targeted once again by evasive maneuvering. It does have, it looks like, an active rep on it as it did get a lot of shield back, so getting that Ancil rep is going to have nine charges on him. Meanwhile, this carries, though, it's absolutely melted.

00:16:24 Ja, something interesting, you know, all the while that Carrier's was alive, I only saw it applying Damp to the Welt Drive Active team for a very short amount of time. Then it appeared to be not doing a lot at all with its E-War, and now it's gone. It's never going to have that chance again. Yeah, Navisa maneuvering, I mean, they keep swapping between the Scorpion and Osprey depending on how they're jammed.

00:16:49 We see Jams going out onto the Hyperion, Navy Prophecy, and Devoter. We do not know if these Jams actually land or not, except just by seeing who's DPSing who. Some DPS going onto the Scorpion, some going onto the Osprey, some going onto the Kitsune. So this Ewar setup with the double Ewar ships is actually doing quite well at splitting the DPS from Evasive Maneuvering, who still are trying to keep their Augur alive through, it appears to be, some Logibots, and are trying to get this Osprey right now. But with this Kitsune down, it's very...

00:17:19 difficult for them to actually control these ECM chips. That Osprey there is going to be working quite hard. Obviously, you know, he does have those drones assisting him, but he's managing repping his guys, he's managing his transversal, he's managing his own, what is probably an extra large ASB. It might be a little bit late to exercise any of that control whatsoever for evasive maneuvering now, who now have not traded anything at all.

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00:18:06 haben eine Runde in den letzten A.T., so verlieren der ersten Match in Group ist nicht etwas, das sie wirklich wollen, aber es sieht aus wie es nicht geht, und sie vielleicht nicht mehr in diesem ersten Match des Jahres. Depending auf, um, wie lucky Welt Drive Active ist, diese Jams applying zu all of them...

00:18:30 Es ist eine sehr große Möglichkeit, dass sie alle drei DPS zusammengestellt werden können, alle drei DPS zusammengestellt werden, für alle wir wissen. Wahrscheinlich, ich bin sicher, dass alle anderen, die sich auf die E-C-M gespielt hat, die wahrscheinlich alle einen der Zuschauer, wissen, wie irritiert es kann.

00:18:50 Yeah, and I think the interesting thing here, right, is that it's a Shield Scorpion. Not as common, I think, as a lot of people see the Armor Scorpion, because you just want all those mid slots for your utility mids for your Shield, or for your ECM, but they went with the Shield Scorpion this time around. They were able to keep it alive, and even with the reduced number of jams, it doesn't really matter that much, because if you have...

00:19:17 So, uh, it's a nice adaptation from Welp Drive Activate as the Scorpion stays alive in the Osprey.

00:19:34 He got the XLASB reload, so he will stay alive, live to win this as well. Faffy Waffy, captain of evasive maneuvering, finally goes down, and it's just this Devoter and Hyperion left. Five minutes left in the match. We'll see how quickly Wolf Drive Activate can clean this up. You know, we're looking at the fact that that Osprey has probably managed to reload its ASB, but it is under... It's facing only two ships, and it is still taking...

00:20:01 Ich glaube, es ist wahrscheinlich das Evasive Maneuvering zu können, aber es ist nicht so einfach, dass die Auspräge nicht so schnell sind, als sie nach der Last Gasp sind.

00:20:17 Und, ja, Chadwick, ich meine, als wir sehen, er ist ein paar damage, aber er ist reppet es zurück mit dem Osprey. So, ich meine, Devoter, Hyperion, es ist einfach nicht so viel damage, speziell mit long-range Weapons. Obviamente Devoter ist ein Pulser, weil du immer pick Beams in eine Tournament wählst.

00:20:37 But Beam Eideron, very low armor right now, no Logi, some damage going on to the Osprey once again, still being split by the Scorpion who's getting these jams, but the Osprey still has XLASB charges, so it's really just poking and prodding and trying to get whatever they can before the match ends. Beam Eideron, though, hitting structure now.

00:20:58 Powerful tank on basically any heavy interdictor in the game. Devota, one of the ones at the top end, that structure disappears very fast compared to the armor. And now the Hyperion, can he even track to, without the assistance of any of his teammates, can he track to put any serious damage onto anyone else? At this stage, probably not.

00:21:20 GFs in Local, I will say that these are GSL groups, so you win two, you're in, you lose two, you're out, and Evasive Maneuvering still have a chance of making it in to the rest of the tournament, but that will depend on how their group plays out. But for the time being, Welp Drive Activate, they're very happy with this win. First match of the day going over to them, and I think definitely a statement.

00:21:47 from this team as they are now onto Pandey in the Hyperion. Three minutes left in this match. What are your thoughts on it and how it has played out? I think that facing two bonus ECM ships gives you a bit of a...

00:22:05 Ich hoffe, dass Evasive Maneuvering nicht so gut ist, und ich hoffe, dass Evasive Maneuvering nicht so gut ist.

00:22:31 With that, we're going to send it to a quick break, and then the desk will break that down and bring us to the next one. We'll be right back after this. Stop being casual. They're really bad. We should not lose anybody to this. Warp off. Warp off. Take the fleet warp. Everybody warp off. This is a really, really bad execution. I'm very disappointed.

00:23:05 Krush our enemies, your dams are completely dammed out. Krush, I'm dammed out, I'm dammed out. Get on that chamber, bois. Heat your habs. Yeah! Everything dammed. I've not been able to lock a single thing in the game. I'm jammed.

00:23:44 What a match. Man, I... From looking at the details, everybody went really hard on the opponents of Welp Drive Active and look at them pulling it out. Man, that was a great match. Fantastic to see. So... Wingnut. That Hyperion.

00:24:12 There's a reason I am wearing sunglasses. So, I made a deal with the guys in Discord, okay? I made a deal that I was going to wear a pair of sunglasses for every Rail Hyperion we saw. Now, unfortunately, I'm not going to be on the desk as long as I expected, but I did not expect it to be the very first match to be a Rail Hyperion and start wearing the first pair. I mean, I've got more ready to go. But yeah, this is the tournament of Rail Hyperions, but unfortunately it came up against the full E-Wall comp, a very well-flown one too.

00:24:45 I was really happy, I was really surprised that first match of the day we got to see you throw some sunglasses on. That was pretty great. Debs, that carries. The first kill, he wasn't, didn't seem to be so effective. Can you kind of go through maybe what errors this pilot made? Maybe why they weren't damping, what was going on?

00:25:11 So, the Orthrus went and chased it off. That was the first thing that happened. With that Orthrus, and I believe the Cyclone Fleet issue as well, putting pressure on it, the only way for it to stay alive, especially with its Laji being jammed, was for it to run away and get out of range of those missiles from primarily, again, the Orthrus. Which does have range, but not infinite range. So, pulling away, breaking locks. The carries has a lot of lock range, but...

00:25:40 Again, not infinite, especially without sensor boosters, remote CBOs probably coming from the Magus or something like that. It just lacks the range to be able to damp things once it gets out of range. And then because it's getting no reps from the Augur, it is simply in the position where it has to play to live. And living means getting out of range, which means no longer damping the enemy jams.

00:26:08 Das ist eine ganze Sache, richtig? Es ist eine ganze Sache, die die Loss in der Endeffekt ist. Aber der Grund für die Carries nicht Damping war war, dass es ein excellentes Spiel bei den Orthrus ist, um es aus dem Rang zu machen, um es nicht zu stoppen, die Jamm-Ships zu machen und um DPS zu machen.

00:26:25 Of course. I mean hey, landing those jams and getting those are super important and it definitely made an impact on this last match. So Wingnut, this bait prophecy versus a Scorp Navy or Scorp plus Kitsune comp. Yeah, we've seen a few bait prophecies, or at least what I've been calling them is you put a prophecy navy right in their face, right in front of them, and be like, please tackle me, please shoot me.

00:26:55 But this comp didn't really care, which is... Honestly, it was a very aggressive comp for an E-War comp, right? They've got two E-War boats, but then they've got all through Cyclone Navy pumping out damage, and a Jackdaw firing off some missiles as well. We see a lot of E-War comps over the years, and they always end up going so hard on E-War that they lack the actual teeth to kill things. That is, in my opinion, done pretty much right. You've got two bait ships, aka your killing ships, and then you've got the rest of your ships with DPS.

00:27:24 Yeah, I loved seeing a Control- oder ECM-type comp that actually is able to follow through. And I think that they did that and performed very well. So, fantastic job, Wolf Drives Active. Congratulations on winning the first match of the day. Next up, we have Sedition vs. Bright Side of Death.

00:27:50 Now, bans, we have Raven, Typhoon, and Celestis. Bright Side of Death, we have Roke, Carys, and Celestis. So we're seeing heavy damp bans with both the Celestis and the Carys. And we're seeing a lot of battleship bans. Debs, what do you think? Give me an idea. What do you think we might see in this next match? I mean, obviously from Sedition, they don't want to see missile boats. Technically, the Armageddon is still available.

00:28:19 But that is much less of a Missile Boat than the Raven and the Typhoon are for sure. So this is, we're going to ban out Missile Boats and we're going to bring TDs because we expect that that means you must bring Octo. Notably, TDs not banned by either side. Damp's banned by Bright Side. So we're seeing this is both teams angling to bring Octo or the secret third option.

00:28:46 So we'll see if the secret third option shows up.

00:28:51 So, are we gonna... You know what? I will let you tell me what the secret third option is after the match. I'll wait and I'll see if I can hold on to my excitement until then. Just to know what's going on here. But it's super, super interesting just looking at the current bands to see maybe if we see a mirror, maybe if we see a...

00:29:20 Und vielleicht sehen wir etwas, was wir sehen, dass unsere Pilots flying abilities testen. Ich weiß nicht. Wir werden definitiv sehen. Es sieht aus, dass die Teams in den Arena landen sind. So wir werden über den Kommentaren in den Arena gehen.

00:29:46 Welcome to Sedition vs Bright Side of Death in what looks like an almost identical mirror match that we're about to have here. We're seeing an ever-popular Abaddon, something that is gaining popularity on TQ. Now it's cheaper as well, but here it's extremely potent as well. Very nice range on that. Maybe that can even start to match the Prophecy Navy issue.

00:30:11 But other than that, these things look almost identical. It's going to be Battle of the Molluses. Theo, what are you thinking of this matchup? Vedmack versus Phobos. You have a Hick, does some damage, has that long-range scram versus a Vedmack.

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00:30:58 You know, I think that this is going to completely come down to who can break.

00:31:24 any ship first at this stage you know somebody can break a mollus first somebody can break an exec first i think whoever gets the first one down is going to have a huge chance of being the one that wins the fight today um plenty of seemingly relatively easy tanking going on we got you know when we look at things like the magus and we look at things like the the phobos then you know these things have very high thermal resists which is a huge portion of the damage going on here

00:31:53 Both execs look like they're currently being primed, and they're both like they're currently moving on their armor at roughly the same time. This is nail-biting. Who's going to make it first? Well, with the executives going down, it will just matter who has more DPS. And in theory, the team with the VEDMAC will have more for whatever the target goes, so long as the target priority and target calling and positioning is the same. I'm looking at this VEDMAC right now.

00:32:20 The Phobos is going after him as the Vedmec is trying to get on top of this Execurer and try to stay in range with that Triglavian gun. Avell Asshai currently lower in armor, now in structure, so it looks like Bright Side of Death might lose their Logi first. But as I say, Deck, he's starting to stabilize and kicking Bushi, and the Execurer is dipping into low armor as well. This is going to be a nail-biting Logi trade. Meanwhile, Midas Bartholomew has already been taken down into 60% armor with a little bit of a DPS swap coming out from Sedition.

00:32:49 Ich glaube, dass der Exekera ist, dass der Exekera ist, dass der Exekera ist, dass der Exekera ist, dass der Exekera ist.

00:33:10 Und Avel Aschai jetzt in die Struktur wieder. Die Sobos also taking Zennamech, Hekenbuchi. Sehr low Struktur. Es wird die erste Exeksekt auf die Sedition-Side gehen. Bright Side of Death still keeping theirs alive für die Zeit. Aber, als du schon erwähnt, die Armour Bars von der Position 2 und 3 Schiff sind noch zu schumpen. Und als diese Exeksektur dies, die overall...

00:33:36 Tank currently favors Sedition. But as I say that, they're losing their magus pretty quickly. And if this magus goes down, they're going to lose their links in a minute. You know, they are. But look at the head start they've got on both the Phobos and the Prophecy Navy issue. They've got a huge amount of the hit points of the enemy DPS ships taken away already. I mean, they're both without their logi.

00:34:04 Und es wird kommen zu komplett DPS. Und sie hat eine massive Head Start hier auf das DPS. Das Prophecy Navy Issue, given die Bonuses auf das Ding, ich glaube, wir werden sehen, die Hull auf es absoluten Vaporize. Da wir gehen. Es wird über vier Chunks von Hit Points gewonnen haben. Und das ist auf der gleichen Zeit, dass die Foe-Boss wird, als auch.

00:34:27 It's incredible that they've managed to both split their DPS and do a huge amount at the same time. Incredible. Well, the Vedmac and the Phobos were right on top of each other, so Death Touch and the Vedmac, I think, just solos the Phobos there as he tries to keep that scram on the Vedmac and keep him tied down. But, you know, in that 1v1, the Vedmac is going to win every time. The rest of the team ends up taking down the Prophecy Navy, and they've got a massive lead at the moment.

00:34:52 They lost their Magus, but it is just the Abaddon and two support ships versus three DPS ships from Sedition. They are about to lose this Vedmac. He's got some sort of rep on him right now. I can't quite tell if those are drones or not. Yeah, some drones are going on to him at the moment to keep him up. But with this Mollus down, I think this is Sedition's victory. You know, Sedition, they may well have that Vedmac of theirs.

00:35:19 Bleeding Hull right now. But other than that, their main DPS is close to full health, while the only remaining Bright Side of Death DPS is already half dead. I think that, you know, some people may say it too early to call, but I think they've got this wrapped up. I think Sedition takes this one. Yeah, it's just a Brawl at Zero at this point, right? Burn in, get inside each other's ranges.

00:35:49 I mean, both Abadans are very close to each other. The Prophecy Navy is starting to burn in as well. So, you know, just get inside each other's ranges. Do as much DPS as you can. That's Prophecy Navy. Dr. Clutch sitting about half armor at the moment. But he's just trying to pump all the DPS as possible into Kiliavi. As this Abba is currently sitting 13% armor. He's got a local rep. So once this Ansel runs out, we'll be falling a little bit faster.

00:36:17 Dr. Clutch, keeping on staying alive, will keep his armor while this ABBA goes into structure. And, you know, famously, Amar ships, they're nothing about the structure. They're not like a Galente ship here. You know, I imagine that there'll be at least one plate on that baden in addition to that rep, but it's just not enough to outlast the Prophecy Navy issue.

00:36:41 Und mit this ABBA going down. Sedition, a team that we haven't seen a whole lot of success with in previous tournaments. But they're kind of surprised in feeders, and they're surprising now. Bright Side of Death, Perennial, do well in AT team, anywhere between that kind of top 24 and top 12 position quite often. So it does kind of suck for them to...

00:37:06 end up losing their first match of groups, but as we mentioned, they still have a way into the main tournament. As Sedition clean up the match, we are going to send it to a quick break and Linda Desk will bring that down, so we will be right back after this. We actually lost a bet as CCP collectively, so that's why that alliance logo is in the game. Of course, you could change your alliance by leaving, but that would be kind of a jerk move. Oh, you don't like it? Just leave. This logo sucks, I'm going to go join.

00:37:35 Bis zum nächsten Mal.

00:38:34 What a match. Some mirroring there, but honestly, as somebody who put their points on Not Sedition, I am honestly absolutely surprised and I'm super, super happy about it. I love to see the upsets. So, Allie, these trade-offs, that 1v1.

00:38:58 Talk to me about the tradeoffs and how that kind of really played into it. Yeah, so in a lot of these mirrors, what we're seeing is where you have two Gunspam teams flying against each other, what we're seeing is that the Logi get traded out pretty early. Both teams can hit the opposing team's logistics. The Logi needs to stay in range to rep the rest of their team, broadly speaking. Tech won Logi, they can't run very fast, they can't tank very much. So we're going to trade. Great.

00:39:27 Given that we're going to trade, what you want to do as a team is keep your logistics ship alive just a little bit longer than the opponents. You want to be the one who falls second, ideally waste a little bit more of their time. And one way to do that is with Logibots. We saw one team had a whole swarm of logistics of Logibots addition, and the other team did not. Now, it can be tempting to go for damage bots. Damage bots let you flex your...

00:39:56 Damage Types vs. Reactive Armor Hardener. They increase the damage output, and they'll stay on a target even if you get damped out by a Mollus. But the Logibots, those reps, especially those reps that nobody else can give your Logi, can be critical. And it really helped Sedition in this fight.

00:40:16 Of course. And you can definitely see the difference of choosing logistics drones over damage drones. Sacrificing that definitely does have an impact. Debs, this FedMac and Phobos, just go and add it.

00:40:35 Honestly, I was not expecting it. Can you tell me kind of what they might have been thinking? Sure. So, I mean, that was just a case of both teams didn't want those ships shooting other things. The Phobos had rails, which meant it was able to get out there and do some more work. But basically those two were just tackling each other, sitting there, preventing the other one from applying at least their full damage to the other side.

00:41:05 And in the case of the Venmec, that actually works out well for it. Because it's got that ramping damage from the Entropic Disintegrator, it's just sitting there being sort of relegated off to the side, but ramping that damage that entire time in order to break that Phobos is actually kind of how you end up flying it anyways. On the other hand, the Phobos had rails, so it was still able to reach out and do at least a little bit of damage to the opposing side's Laji.

00:41:33 Sometimes, but the Phobos does not have the most fantastic range on rails, so it was probably doing much less damage than it would have liked to do. So both of them kind of in an awkward position, but certainly the Vedmac in the stronger position there. The rails are going to have a real hard time hitting that Vedmac. The rails are going to track poorly, and the Vedmac's going to certainly out-damage the rails, even if the rails could track.

00:42:01 Of course. Now, goodness. So much. Alright, so next up we have the Lazy Piglets vs. Former Relv... Goodness, this always trips me up. Desodents? Which is Tuskers vs. Goons. Lazy Piglets have banned the Raven, the Tholos, and the Hyena.

00:42:29 So we're seeing a double Tholos ban. Allie, do you think...

00:42:43 dass sie vielleicht einfach mal versuchen zu spielen und nicht den Schaden zu nehmen? Ich meine, die Tholos ist ein sehr starkes Schiff. Es gibt große Vorteile für Rush. Es gibt Potenzial, wie Chadflame in der Stream war, die Potenzial der Tholos als eine Kontroll-Closer, wo es sich um, wenn alles alles ist weg. Es macht Sinn, dass beide Teams sind, mit dem Raven-Ban.

00:43:12 Raven Tholos kind of says, you know, those are two of the strongest ships in a lot of the rush cores that we've seen. So this means that if Goons is going to bring a rush, it has to be a little bit weaker than it might be otherwise.

00:43:30 And that'll be definitely something to see with that. Now, we're kind of all over the place in the E-War kind of type bans. And honestly, I'm not sure really what to think of these bans. Debs, with the Raven and Roke and then the two Highness Amalis, they leave the door open for a lot. Do you think this was maybe just bans to get in everybody's heads?

00:44:01 It could be, but we've seen Damps be really strong. We've seen both the Roke and the Raven be strong. We have seen a lack of TDs actually show up on Grid for a little while, so potentially we'll see them. But it seems people are really avoiding them, maybe worried about getting juked, maybe thinking that they're just simply not strong enough because they don't apply to Logi and they don't stop the reps.

00:44:30 But we'll see. Okay. All right. So with that, they have landed in the arena and the arena is calling. Let's go ahead and throw it over to the commentators.

00:44:50 Welcome back to the Arena. My name is Fiervana, joined by Phantomite, and we have another Octomir matchup on the red side. It is Lazy Piglets on the blue side, former Valve Desidents. Phantomite, what do you make of the differences between these team comps? I'm going to be very interested to see how each side utilizes their tackle cruisers here. On the one side with a Devota, with the Piglets, we've got Long Scram.

00:45:17 Und mit den Former-Relf-Desidents haben wir Longwebs mit der Oshimu, mit den Oshimu. Sie sind nicht unbedingt mit einem großen Wettbewerb, aber alles hilft. Und das ist ein sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr Damp-Battlefield mit zwei Carries.

00:45:31 And difference in Logi, Augur vs. Zek-Zek, and Magus vs. Pontifex, as far as the Lynx goes. We see immediate damage going on to this Execuror of the Goon side, and he is falling very quickly. Meanwhile, they're trying to go for this carries of Kahn and Jung. They have lost the Damp War completely. Their carries is damped out, as well as this Navy Prophecy, and their Execuror is falling very quickly. Extremely quickly, yeah. That thing doesn't get...

00:45:58 Und wenn man Repdrones auf es und so weitergeht, dann wird es wahrscheinlich alles um zu Lazy Piglets zu kapitalisieren. Und da ist es eine Chance, dass der Lazy Piglet Carries sein kann, dass er einen Platz auf dem Spiel kann, wo er kann, um, zu versuchen, zu counterdampen. Ich meine, es sieht, dass er un-dampen ist, Conn und Young, in den Carries, auf der Red Team ist. Ist das sein, dass er sein Chance, um, zu versuchen, den Upper Hand in den Damport?

00:46:27 Yeah, we see the scram onto this Navy Process, City of Flak Inquisitor, a grapple actually long range on Stu Minor as he's got the Ashimu currently scrammed up. Podrick, Equus and the Exec actually living right now as the damage is swapping onto this Pontifex of Starlet Greybeard. So neither team has actually gotten any kills quite yet and both Logi ships are actually about equal in terms of armor, but this Pontifex is falling rather quickly.

00:46:55 He's falling, but he doesn't have reps on him yet. If they can get reps on him, then I think he's likely to be able to pull back quickly because that's some very high resist. It's a very high amount of armor for a destroyer. We're about to find out. He has just started receiving... There we go. All his armor pulled back in one cycle. They got him for the moment unless they start to have some trouble with their execra again.

00:47:17 Ja, Starlight did a good job of pulling back. He wasn't tackled, so pulls back towards Podrick. He burns in a little bit, but hasn't quite been affected too badly. We see damps onto this ABBA Navy Prophecy on the blue side as the carries of Kahn and Jung is currently being damped out as well, but it's not stopping him from keeping these former Valve Desidents DPS ships damped out. Another scram lands onto this Asher move, Lord Jackson. They're trying to get Podrick once again in this Execure.

00:47:47 Er ist auch sehr schnell. Er ist auch sehr schnell. Er ist auch sehr schnell. Er ist auch sehr schnell.

00:48:05 Oh, no, no, no. He's going 200 meters a second. He's not moving that fast anymore. He was painted. He didn't get worked at any stage, though. So, you know, he wasn't getting tackled down as their method of taking him out. But with him gone, there goes the Pontifex. That looks like he just ran out of Cap. And as the Pontifex goes down, it happens, right? T1 Logicruisers, they really have trouble keeping Cap up in these kind of...

00:48:33 in these kinds of tournament settings, right? That's why we typically see a lot of T2 Logi Cruisers and T2 Logi Frigates in the AT proper and in 10v10s. At the moment, though, Sisko Stew in the carries shouldn't be long for the world either. He's being taken down in his structure and is finally down. Meanwhile, former Valve Desonants try to get some damage on his Augur of Scorch Celest, but...

00:48:58 Ich denke, an dieser Stelle, mit all der Support, auch mit der DPS und mit viel mehr Defense Bar zu haben, das ist sicherlich in die Waffe der Lazy Piglet für den Zeitpunkt. Was wir also sahen, was vielleicht eine Antwort auf meine Frage, als wir öffnen, welche Tacklecruiser wird besser hier sein, wenn wir die Ishimu-Versus-Devota haben. Sie haben sich auf einen anderen. Für...

00:49:21 ...almost the entire match. That Ashimu has been using its Neuting and Nos on the Devota the entire time. And the Devota looks like it's been keeping the Ashimu scrammed the whole time as well. But the Devota has been able to keep its point up the entire time in spite of that energy warfare.

00:49:40 Es sieht aus, in diesem Fall, dass du einen Devoter anstattest. Potenziell. Ich denke, es ist ein Argument für den Ashmu in bestimmten Setups. Vielleicht nicht in den Miro-Match versus den Hick. Obviamente, den Ashmu wird ein bisschen weniger damage als Hick an any given Hick. Aber wieder, du hast die Utilität der Webseite. Long-range Webseite können gegen A-B-Ships helfen, während der Long-range Scram nicht.

00:50:10 And obviously that nuke power can be pretty, pretty potent. We saw that in a couple of feeders matches where the Ashman was able to just nuke people out. And actually that was something that former Elf Desidents did in feeders to win by one in the match that sent them into the tournament or actually sent them into the playoff to get into the tournament.

00:50:33 Lord Jackson in this Ashmu is going to go down in low armor as well. It looks like it will be a clean victory for the previous AT winners in Lazy Piglets. It does certainly look like that, and it looks like the remaining Abaddon, even though it is very high DPS with very useful ranges with its crystals, it looks like it's not really causing...

00:50:59 any of those ships, any trouble whatsoever anymore, even though, for example, the Lazy Piglet's Algora appears to be sitting at basically zero meters per second. An interesting choice.

00:51:13 I think he's just saying, hey, shoot me, Pulse Abba. Please. I'm just a little T1 Logi cruiser. Please don't shoot me. The carries is also at zero meters a second. I think this is just a little bit of disrespect.

00:51:30 No, I think the ABBA is just completely damped out and the AUG and Carries don't actually need to move because they're out of the lock range of this ABBA and nothing is going to stop him from doing that. He's got to grapple onto this Navy Prophecy right now and trying to get a little bit of damage, but Ranch and the ABBA unfortunately cannot win a 1v6 of this nature. I know if I were solo battleshipping on TQ, I would very much not like to be into a Carries.

00:51:58 Das macht mich jedes Mal, egal was, was ich bin. Ich bin jetzt in Struktur. Und das ist es für den Match. Was sind Ihre Final Thoughts? Any Mirror Comp like this is going to be a battle of their E-War freaks. Und es war die same heute, auch. Mit dem, wir sind jetzt ein Quick Break. Und dann Desk will das dann. Wir werden gleich wiederholfen.

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00:53:54 Shame. Shame, Rose. But, uh, you know, hey. It was a good fight. So, let's... A little bit. So, Bonus Info... Versus Recebo. Debs... What? For somebody who's not really too familiar with that lingo, can you explain that?

00:54:23 Sure, so we saw a couple differences in the setups there. It was largely a mirror match with everything being kind of equal there, but there were three ship choices that were different between the teams. You saw the exec versus the auger, you saw the ashmu versus the voter, and then the last one, which might seem...

00:54:44 Very minor, is the Magus versus the Pontifex. But in that case, it's actually a huge difference. The Pontifex gets a bonus to InfoLinks. So a lot of teams will see that and go, okay, we want to make our E-War better. We want to resist E-War better. Both things that InfoLinks allow you to do. But the trade-off that you get there is that the Pontifex has less mid-slots. And mid-slots are really important. And one thing you could see there...

00:55:10 if you're paying very close attention to the stream, is that the Magus was putting a remote sensor booster onto its friendly carries. This gives the carries resistance against the enemy E-War. It allows the carries to lock further. If it loses that E-War battle somehow, it allows it to lock faster if there are, say, jam drones out there, anything like that. So that gives that carries a lot of power against...

00:55:39 So in a case where, say, they were fighting jams, that infolink, maybe that's a better choice there because you can provide jam resistance to everybody. But in a case where you're just worried about winning that damp war versus the enemy damp ship, putting all of that mid-war power, mid...

00:56:09 Das heißt, dass die E-WARP-WARP-WARP-WARP-WARP-WARP-WARP-WARP-WARP-WARP-WARP-WARP-WARP-WARP.

00:56:19 Fantastic. And Allie, that AUG versus EXEC, rep power versus mid slots, what did it boil down to in this match between Goons and Tuskers? Honestly, I think in this match, it ended up boiling down to just the overall execution. The Execura pilot we saw, you know, both teams, like I mentioned last time, are trying to shoot the Logi first. The Execura pilot...

00:56:48 Runs away, manages to save himself exec. One of the advantages of the execrer over the auger is that the execrer is faster and you have a much greater flexibility in the fittings. So you can go either one 50 mn micro warp drive plus local SIBOs, additional cap boosters. You can also do a 50 mn micro warp drive and a 10 mn afterburner, which can provide quite a lot of

00:57:16 ...damage-resistance just by its SIG mitigation. Whereas the AUG, it's a little bit fat, it's a little bit slow, it's a little bit just kind of goes where it goes. But it reps a lot. Like if you want to keep a ship alive, if it was you versus a whole rush on your battleship, you'd much rather be in the AUG where you can just heat all those highs, get as much reps out as you can. Here...

00:57:40 Goons had the exec, it had some extra maneuverability. It was doing a good job of, the pilot was doing a good job of using that maneuverability in order to position. But overall, lazy piglets did a really good job of switching. And when the exec was far away, they would just shoot something close by. Soon enough, the exec had to come in. Once the exec came in, they swapped back. Then eventually they got the exec down and the dominoes all fell from there.

00:58:06 Yep, and with that, I am going to just mention something in Local. We already have people going a retrospective minus one if we lose and having a good time and just joking around with each other. Next up, we have Yabby's Baddies and Grief Team 6. Yabby's Baddies has banned the Typhoon, the Sentinel, and the Tholos. And Grief Team 6, we're seeing similar with the Sentinel, the Geddon.

00:58:35 And the Tholos, so we're seeing double Sentinel and double Tholos bands. Debs, talk to me about what these bands mean. Maybe what are the teams prepping for? I think these are fairly generic bands when it comes down to it. The Tholos is now becoming perennially that popular band. Nobody wants to see it. Nobody wants that damage spread amongst their ships from a properly piloted Tholos, which we did see few of.

00:59:05 in the feeders. Geddon, nobody likes newts. Sentinel, nobody likes TDs. The Typhoon is probably the only really interesting band here in that they're trying to ban out that kite. But other than that, I don't think you can really tell much from these bands.

00:59:22 Okay, that's very fair. Allie, with the bans, with both teams, with the history from the feeders, who are you putting your points on? I actually put a couple of points on Yabby's Baddies, because this is one of those matches where, yes, they're unfavored, but if you put the, like, 300 points in, then I think they're unfavored, but we've seen Grief Team 6 get upset before. Now...

00:59:49 Probably they spent the last two weeks training, getting their good mental on, all of that. So it probably won't happen again. But if it does, those 300 points, they're going to turn into a lot more.

01:00:03 Und hey, ich verstehe. Die Pink Galnet-Skins sind etwas zu beendet. Ich persönlich liebe sie mich selbst. Das ist das ich für, auch. Debs, ich werde dir das gleiche sagen. Wer sind deine Punkte auf? Ich habe gesehen, was auf die Grid ist, also ich finde es unfair für mich zu stellen. Und nicht zu spoilern, aber es sieht wirklich, wirklich interessant. Und ich werde...

01:00:31 Good fun talking about this afterwards. That is totally fine. So I'll let you abstain from throwing your points this round, at least since you've already seen. But from that, I will go ahead and say the arena is ready. The teams have landed. Let's go ahead and throw it to the commentators.

01:00:58 Welcome to the Blood Red Arena. About to get even bloodier, potentially, especially so if we are about to see a Glass Cannon Shield Baden on the Yabby's Baddies team. What do you reckon that thing is fit like, Fear? Shockto versus Octo, and yeah, it's gonna be...

01:01:19 An absolute bloodbath in the DPS rage. Snorbed in the ABBA. Not going to take advantage of the inherent tank bonuses that that ship has. Instead, using what little mid slots it has to fit a shield tank. This is a much larger attack bar, which is the advantage of a shield octo setup versus a...

01:01:42 an Armour Octo setup, but at the same time, their defense bar is quite a bit shorter, and now their Osprey already in very low shields, Hilary Cannonald very low, and it doesn't look like they have an XLASB on that ship, so it's just going to be a quick Logi snipe from Grief Team 6. Do you know what? That shield badden...

01:02:03 Es ist jetzt oder nicht für seine Glass Cannon, dass er keine Lodgy hat. Der Chariz hat das Kitsun-Kitsun-Kitsun-Kitsun-Kitsun-Kitsun-Kitsun-Kitsun-Kitsun-Kitsun-Kitsun-Kitsun.

01:02:23 Fewer ECM parts on it. But WexSM in this ABBA. Taking the full brunt of this DPS. From Yabby's baddies. He is in a half armor. But he is stabilizing with the ancillary rep. Meanwhile Snorbet in the ABBA. As well again a shield Abaddon. Currently sitting about 66% shield. He does not have a whole lot of EHP in that. Unless he is an armor ship. With a shield ship on the rest of his team. I don't think this is going to go well. For Yabby's baddies.

01:02:52 I think we're about to see a unique sight in New Eden, which is the armor of an Abaddon disappearing quickly rather than painfully slowly. He's about to lose his shield tank. We're both assuming that he's got extenders there. Oh, and there he goes. Chunks being taken out while the grief team six appears to be holding on okay. Even if, you know, if this glass cannon vanishes in a moment, then...

01:03:19 I think that the Grief Team 6 Augora is going to hold on. I'm just a little bit interested as to what the logic was with the Roke not being banned, going a Shield Octo setup and going for an Abba instead of the Roke, which is what we saw a lot in Feeders for Shield Octo. This Aug finally falls, but the attack bar is anemic, the defense bar is anemic. This is pretty firmly Grief Team 6's match now. There was a trade there, wasn't there? The Baden for the Augora, basically within about one tick of each other.

01:03:48 But it looks like it was worth it. Definitely worth it for Grief Team 6. What are your thoughts on the Shield Abba versus the Roke? I feel like the Shield Abba is a trap for the people flying it. I think it's the kind of thing that traditionally looks good in Pyfer or in the ship simulator, but on the field, it doesn't seem to have worked out for them.

01:04:13 Yeah, especially because its natural resist hull in that EM resist hull does not play nicely up against laser ships, right? So if you've got NAB, Prophecy Navy as your primary DPS ships from the other team, it's not going to have a lot of EHP against those DPS ships. We see Slim Jim Tim also falling in low.

01:04:39 I'm a little bit surprised with the team comp the way it was. We saw an Osprey earlier today with an XLASB or LASB and that one lived quite longer than a lot of these other T1 Logi ships. So a bit of an interesting decision when you have such a squishy position one ship to not have the tankier version of the Osprey this time around.

01:05:05 When it comes to something like a Shield Glass Cannon Abaddon, sure, it does a lot of DPS on paper, but what you really want to try and leverage with that is the application from having all of those lows free. You want tracking enhancers, you want things like that to really make that damage actually apply. And it didn't look like they managed it here, but something that Grief Team 6 is definitely going to have a little bit more trouble doing is tracking this Phantasm.

01:05:31 That afterburner bonus on a cruiser-sized hull really does make it very difficult to eyeball and to hit with your guns. It does. I will say props to the carries. Veku's Onorlis actually keeping that kitsune at bay early on in the match. I think the idea for this team comp with the Shield Abba is we have a kitsune, we can get something with higher damage than the Roke potentially, better projection, better tracking. And then...

01:06:00 Die Phantasm ist jetzt in Armour. Any final thoughts before we send it back to Desk? A Phantasm. It's a shield tanker. It doesn't have a lot of shield, even though it is a shield tanker. And we've just finally seen that, and there it goes.

01:06:26 We're gonna send it to a quick break when we return the desk will break that down we'll be right back after this

01:07:22 Ich habe ein Lader, ein Galente und ein MR, und ein Engel für Slot.

01:07:44 And we are back and that match, um, Grief Team 6 turned into Yabby's daddies. Uh, Grief Team 6 having a little bit of fun. Um, now, Debs, they had no shield bots. They really went for a battleship headshot through the lodgy. Talk to me about why that might be problematic.

01:08:11 Sure, so that was kind of like almost a pseudo rush with them trying to put just as much damage as possible into there and going for that battleship headshot, which is what we've seen a lot of rush comps fail on. They think, oh, we've got all this damage. What we're going to do is we're just going to ignore the Lodgy. Or in this case, I think they were hoping that they'd be able to just jam the Lodgy. We'll just jam the Lodgy.

01:08:37 We'll just kill the battleship, and the enemy team won't have any DPS and we'll win. And it turns out that that doesn't work that well. If the enemy team is able to block any of your damage coming in, with damps, for instance, or good tackling, preventing you from getting on top of that enemy that you're trying to kill, you don't have the damage to push through the Lodgy, and you end up losing your Lodgy while they still have it up, and the trade never happens.

01:09:06 Es ist etwas, das man in Prinzip kann, aber niemand hat eigentlich versucht, wie zu tun. Es scheint, in diesem Tournament zu sein. Ich denke, das ist die Sache da. Und wir sahen, wie du auch gesagt hast, dass es keine Shieldbots auf den Osprey gibt, also es zu gehen war quasi eine Guaranteed Sache. Es war keine Chance, dass es zu survive war. Es hat nur viel HP, und wenn das HP ist, ist es tot. Und es ist ein T1 Shieldcruiser. Es hat nicht so viel HP.

01:09:39 Und das, das scheint, zu potenziell machen all die Unterschiede so far. Alli! Shield vs. Armour! Das Battleships! Das Shield Baden! Was ist das?

01:09:57 So, I'm going to defend this a little bit. Like, ultimately it lost, right? So ultimately we're not talking about the new meta that everyone's going to be copying tomorrow or next week. But the problem is that when you're looking for a shield projection battleship, your choices kind of suck. Everyone has been using the Roke because the Roke projects out quite far. I've just got something loaded up in Pyfa during the break and, you know, I'm getting...

01:10:26 54 km optimal, 80 km with falloff, with antimatter, and that's not even before I start loading longer ranged ammos. But it only does 637 DPS. And it doesn't move very fast, which is why we see some local MJD shenanigans in those. So the Railroak, it's fine, but it could be better. The Tempest can't shoot very far at all. If you put artillery on it, it hits like...

01:10:53 Und wenn du Auto-Cannons hast, kann es nicht so weit aufhören. So Tempest ist ein Challenge. Das sind all deine Shield Gunships. So was wenn wir einfach ein Shield-Extenders auf den Abaddon nehmen? Wir sind nicht so viel Tank, relativ zu unserer Roke. Und wir sind mit 904 DPS Cold with Scorch.

01:11:19 Out to, honestly, similar ranges than the Rogue. So, it makes a certain amount of sense. I see how teams got themselves there. One of the things that we're getting for this tournament is people really trying to dig in the Pyfa mines for what's the solution to the restrictions in the format. I see how they got there. This one doesn't look like it was it, but I look forward to seeing more of this.

01:11:50 I mean, honestly, I think with a little fine-tuning, it might be something incredibly interesting, and maybe we'll see if they decide to commit to it again. Next up, we have Not Dead Yet vs No Local. This honestly will be so far what I'm looking at for points. It looks like an interesting matchup. Looks pretty close.

01:12:17 Before we get to the bans, Debs, now that nobody's on field, who's your prediction to win this one?

01:12:27 You know, I'm not super sure. Looking at this, I will look at the bands. That's public, so that's fine. I'm going to put this towards No Local. I don't like the bands from Not Dead yet. I think that they're trying to bait something that won't happen. So I'm going to go for No Local here. Yeah.

01:12:52 All right, and with that, we'll go over the bans. Not Dead Yet has banned the Geddon, the Typhoon, and the Cyclone Fleet Issue. Not Local has done the Sentinel, the Carries, and the Typhoon, so we're seeing a double Typhoon ban. Allie?

01:13:09 We've already heard that potentially they're trying to bait something. What are you thinking of these bands? So the Typhoon is your best missile kite, one of your best missile kite ships. It goes fast. It has good application. So the Typhoon Cyclone Fleet Issue bands could really be aiming at stopping no local from kiting them. Meanwhile, the carries, very effective, very annoying Ewar frigate.

01:13:37 I feel like the Armageddon Typhoon Cyclone Fleet Issue is a little bit more coherent and suggesting that Not Dead Yet might be trying to go for some sort of gun spam or something like that. Meanwhile, the No Local Bands, what we kind of have here is three annoying ships with, again, the Typhoon best kite ship, one of the best kite ships, carries one of the most annoying e-war frigs, and Sentinel, of course, also a very annoying e-war frig.

01:14:06 We'll see what it looks like. These teams also, we don't know what their history is because of how the groups and the brackets have come out. Some teams which are playing each other in these group stages might have scrimmed before. So it's entirely possible that what we're seeing here is someone banning against something that they've already seen in a practice.

01:14:35 That is very true. And honestly, with them being newer teams, I'm really curious to see what happens and to see going forward who manages to pull out this win. This will be curious.

01:14:55 And see if somebody gets baited. Honestly, with these bans, we'll see here shortly. But with that, it does look like they have landed fully in the arena. And I'll go ahead and send it to the commentators for this match to go ahead and get started shortly.

01:15:23 Welcome back to the Arena, my name is Firvan, joined by Phantomite, and we are getting ready to go with not dead yet on the red side, who have brought Octo and No Local. What have they brought on the blue side? On the blue side, they've brought some ships that have a lot of similarities. This looks like it's going to be some kind of a battle of the optimal range bonus. It looks like they've got Naga and a Rock versus an Apocalypse and a Prophecy Navy issue. None of these guys are going to be hurting for projection today.

01:15:53 Und, uh, interestingly, we see the Attack Battlecruiser of the Naga. This was kind of one of those ships that we saw break into the meta in the last AT. Uh, in addition to the previous Gunspam, uh, medium Railguns and Pulses, uh, we started seeing Nagas and Oracles, so, uh, for Shockto. Mollus, meanwhile, being absolutely blown up and gets taken down, but it's going to be traded for this Augur that's already in very...

01:16:23 It might be. I mean, that's... I mean, this is what we should expect to see when we see two teams with optimal bonus ships all working on each other at the same time. That damage is instant. The match starts and as soon as they get their locks, they are all applying. Absolutely brutal to see that. But, you know, without that Mawlus on the No Local team, you know, that's not a lot of control they've got left anymore.

01:16:52 No, it's not, but we see the attack bar is about twice the size in terms of the total area of it. But they're not applying all that well. Remember, these are large railguns on the Naga as well as on the Roke. And they're trying to get some of these smaller targets. This Augur has burnt out of range, is now getting some of his armor back. They're maybe trading onto this Phobos. Meanwhile, Blacklist 2JZ in the Jackdaw is going down pretty quickly as he's trying to take down the Smallest. But I think Hugh is just not long for the world in CVA.

01:17:22 Starting out pretty strong at the start of the match. Yeah, we can say so long to that jackdaw. That may have been their last gasp attempt to be able to severely harm the not-dead-yet mauless. You know, I take a look at the no-local team. I see, as is very common in this tournament, a huge amount of thermal damage split between all of their options there, which is unfortunately...

01:17:49 Ja, especially, you know, again, large railguns. We saw this have success in the AT, but in the AT you had bonus paint chips helping them out, right? In this particular instance, they opt for a mollusk instead of a hyena, right? So your application is going to suffer, and obviously that mollusk was the first thing to fall.

01:18:13 So this time around you are really just battle of transversal matching, trying to now outtrack yourself with these large railguns. Obviously you've got some sort of pulses on the Phantasm, but with it already in the low shields, this Osprey just not able to outdo this damage that's coming in from this Prophecy Navy and this Phobos and this Apocalypse. Ricky Ducati finally burning back in to get some damage on the Phantasm, but now the DPS is swapping back onto the Osprey and he's going to have to pull away.

01:18:42 To stay alive, and then it'll go back to the Phantasm, which it already is doing, and bye-bye Phantasm. Phantasm has had that web applied to it on and off. You could see its speed going up and down as the web applied, and then de-applied, and then reapplied. Eventually it just couldn't hold up anymore. All the while, the Not Dead Yet team, still very not dead. They recovered their early Augora chunks that were being taken out of it, and now it seems to be sitting quite happily.

01:19:12 Ricky Ducati doing its best Pegobagnaya impression by falling out. Very, very unfortunate for him. I got the chuckle, that's all that mattered. Surferbag and D4Die, also last ones on their team alive, they're just not applying DPS. And thus the large rails seem to have had a lot of trouble today.

01:19:41 Well, you know, this is something, you know, interesting about going bonus rails versus bonus, what could easily be potentially pulses on the Prophecy Navy issue, what's almost certainly pulses on the Apocalypse. If they're using their close range guns, then, you know, they get a lot better tracking than the guys using their long range guns with the rails. Naga, very famously, the attack battlecruisers do not have many hit points.

01:20:10 Und wie viel es hat, ist es schon wieder weg.

01:20:36 Didn't quite work as well as perhaps intended. And this time it was all down to that application. Just couldn't apply to anything, couldn't get their DPS up. And that's good piloting by not dead yet to keep their transversal up versus these large railguns. Last gasp attempt from The Rock as he shoots the Navy Prophecy. Probably about the only target that in his position he can realistically hit for full damage. Good on him for trying up until the end.

01:21:04 Stop being casual, they're really bad, we should not lose anybody to this. Warp off, warp off, take the fleet warp, everybody warp off. This is a really, really bad execution, I'm very disappointed.

01:21:41 Crush our enemies. Your damms are completely dammed out. Crush, I'm dammed out, I'm dammed out. Get on my chambers, boys. Heat your reps. Yeah. Everything dammed. I'm jammed.

01:22:16 Perfect, we are back. Man, what a match between Not Dead Yet and No Local. So, Allie, this...

01:22:30 This jackdaw, it seemed to have just MJD'd, but it was trying to just yeet itself into the back line. Can you kind of give a little bit of just information on why it would maybe have done that? So I actually replayed the video. It didn't MJD, it just moved so quickly it felt like it. You know, jackdaws have that propulsion mode. They can speed over quite quickly.

01:22:59 So the Jackdaw is an obvious ship to send out as a hunter-killer to get something dead. They can also fit light missiles, so you go propulsion, reposition, sharpshooter, and now you're shooting clear across the arena, big DPS, right into a target. This was all happening while the not-dead-yet-Auger had pulled back, was successfully pulling range on the Roke and the Naga. So at this point, it's like...

01:23:25 The blue team, they have the bloodlust up, they're going in, they're getting ready to, like, we need this auger, get this auger. And no local, or not dead yet, did a very good job of seeing what was happening, recognizing what was happening, recognizing that this jackdaw is in here, totally unsupported, possibly having just done a mode switch, and turns around and just deletes it. And at that point...

01:23:52 You have not gotten the Augur. And now you're down to Jackdaw 2. So this is one of the tougher points of moment-to-moment decision-making in the match. When do you switch off of your target even though it's the target that you really need to kill? And when do you turn onto something that's just dove your backline in order to clear it out even though there might be something else you could be shooting? So I thought that was really well-flown from...

01:24:19 Not dead yet. And I've been in that position as a captain and as a pilot, same position as that jackdoll pilot. So, you know, it happens.

01:24:28 So taking that jackdaw and its lovely ideas and yeeting into account, we also have to take into account the Roke and the Naga were not moving almost at all. Debs, were they just trying to trade fire and not have to worry about velocity and angular? Or is this just, I mean, just tracking?

01:24:58 I think it's tracking. So Large Rails have a huge tracking problem. There's very little that tracks worse than Large Rails, basically being Large Artillery. And they've got all of their damage, effectively, is tied up in these Large Rails. And then additionally, they chose not to bring a Hyena. They didn't bring a Shield Ashimu. They don't have a Hector, even, that could scram things.

01:25:27 So they're really lacking on this ability to actually hold things down for those large rails to hit. The Roke and the Naga, Naga's a little bit faster, but the Roke is famously fairly slow, so it's going to have trouble matching Transversal. So about the only thing you can do is you sit there at zero and you hope that the enemy is nice enough to allow you to hit it.

01:25:51 Und ich denke, wir sahen das, was das die große Problematik war. Sie waren einfach nicht mehr able zu tracken. Und mit Large Rails, du wirklich, wirklich brauchst du etwas helfen, um die enemy zu retten. Sie können nicht nur die Art, wie Pulse Lasers machen. Wir haben Abadans und Apochs gesehen. Sie können keine Tracking-Helpe, keine Painter, keine Webse. Sie werden einfach nur die Augur verletzt.

01:26:19 But with these large rails, that's simply not going to happen. Yeah. No, it definitely makes sense that they, that tracking, they didn't seem to have that support. Allie, before we go into the next team in the Bands, that Mollus versus Logitrade, they tried it.

01:26:42 They really tried to commit to that. Do you think that was maybe part of a reason on why they lost? I definitely think it didn't help. Getting the Mollus off field makes sense. And ideally what you'd like to do is you'd like to go from the Mollus to the Logi. Because the Mollus is part of what is preventing you from applying to the enemy logistic ship. So you're going to snap the Mollus. Now your Mollus can damp people off of...

01:27:11 Now your mollusk can dampen people off of you, so you can protect your logi, and meanwhile you can project onto the opponents. And that is not, you know, but it relies on you go from the mollusk to the logi. And that is tough.

01:27:33 Yep, they really attempted to try it. It didn't work out in their favor. Next up we have the German Machine Gun Team. Honestly, I'm looking at this name and I am daunted. Versus Honkai Delta Force. The German Railgun Team has banned the Carys, the Hyena, and the Orthrus.

01:27:58 Honkai Delta Force has banned the Tholos, the Megathron, and the Scorpion. Debs, what do we think of these bans?

01:28:11 Well, certainly the Megatron's an interesting band. We've seen very few of them so far. Hyperion, much more popular than the Megatron if you want, or Rope even, if you want a rail platform. Scorpion, obviously, we've seen that fail several times, but we've also seen that be very successful, especially earlier today. So not wanting to see that ECM, not wanting to just sit there and get jammed by a Scorpion and a Kitsune the entire time is very relatable.

01:28:41 Und dann auf der anderen Seite, wir sehen ein, wir wollen kleine Dinge, Keris, Hyena, Orthrus. Die Orthrus ist einfach zu eliminieren, so sie wollen das Lowend zu halten. Sie wollen das Lowend zu halten, sie wollen nicht mit dampen, sie wollen nicht zu werden, sie wollen nicht zu werden. Nichts super interessant ist, dass die Hyena, dass sie nicht für ein Okto gehen.

01:29:07 Okay, I guess we will see what happens overall and see potentially how each team fares. So with that, it does look like they have landed in the arena. Let's go ahead and throw it over to commentary and let's get this match rolling.

01:29:38 Welcome back to the Arena with me, Phantomite, with Fear here today. We have two teams landing on Grid, who seemingly do not want each other to be able to track at all today. We've got a couple of Sentinels. We've also got an Armageddon to provide plenty of Newts, and an odd, seemingly off-brand Onyx amongst a largely Armour fleet. What do you reckon you can see here, Fear?

01:30:03 Well, I can see attack bars favoring the blue side. This is Honkai Delta Force, team made up of Chinese players mixed between Fraternity and Genshin Impact Alliance from last year. German Railgun Team, as we have affectionately called them, because no one can pronounce that unless they're German, is, of course, Paper Numbers, with Reifusen as their captain. And they've just brought a more standard Octo setup. I'm interested to see with these tracking disruptions.

01:30:33 And it's actually Guidance Disruption on Arwen Astalia getting onto this Fleet Cyclone as well. So didn't completely cheese the Sentinel with Tracking Disruption as King MYF. Also has Tracking Disruption, but only onto this Navy Prophecy as damage is going on to this Exec right now. Guidance Disruption onto the Onyx. This looks like an Exec trade for both these teams.

01:30:54 Sie beide versuchen zu haben, auf die Exekeras zu haben, aber nicht viel Erfolg ist. Diese Teams landen, was rund 70 km entfernt, und als die match starten, sie sofort fiel in beide directions. Aside von... Aside von Paper Numbers, die hier nur in. Oh, no. Es ist nicht harming sie noch, doch.

01:31:19 Well, we're up against missiles, so they're going to have their optimal range, which is the entire arena. If they're long-range missiles, I didn't get a chance to see the weapons. But our optimal range is much shorter, so application doesn't matter with transversal, just speed and signature radius, and not distance at all. So I think it's a good...

01:31:42 Good idea from Paper Numbers to burn in with their DPS ships because the DPS is not going to change applied to them no matter where they are in this arena. Lu Yu in the Typhoon currently sitting about half shield, of course, as an exec, so this is an armor Typhoon. Meanwhile, the execs on both these teams taking some DPS. Young Renegade for Paper Numbers currently sitting about 61% armor, but is clawing some of that back as LWX in the exec has pulled away and is not taking any damage from Paper Numbers.

01:32:12 at the time, being instead Lu Yu in this Typhoon, now an armor sitting about 80%. Something interesting that we were starting to see for a moment there was the Delta Force Exekera slowing down as the grapple seemed to hit it, but then seemingly having no problem getting back up to speed. Maybe it was just changing direction rather than actually being...

01:32:32 Yeah, maybe it was just changing direction rather than actually feeling the effects of that grapple. But if we look at the Exekera on the German team, it is in trouble. It is about to hit structure. And, you know, it's a Galente ship, but it's still not going to be anywhere close to as much structure as it has armor there. And it's losing chunks. And... And we actually see the other Exek burning in. He's trying to claw back his armor. He's got a lot of...

01:32:56 We have armor drones on him at the moment as Sentinels are kind of playing towards this exec at the moment. But the exec goes down and that does favor the Chinese team here of Honkai Delta Force. They've changed from Genshin Impact to Honkai Star Rail. When is the Zenless Zone Zero?

01:33:14 Is my question. But for the time being, they are leading with that Logitrade going in their favor. They're getting damage onto the Sentinel now and a little bit onto the Devoter as well. Meanwhile, Paper Numbers, they really haven't been able to apply to a whole lot. LWX and the EXEC taking some damage as well as now this Onyx. But they are losing a lot of their low end and support in trade for this. Onyx there, obviously. Very much traditional shield tanking ship. We're about to see how much...

01:33:40 Armour Tank you can possibly get out of an Onyx. I'm going to guess that it's not much. Well, King MYF taking some damage right now as well. He's got his friend in the lodge. He's still alive. But Sarion in the Onyx, also very low. He's in Armour. Meanwhile, the Devoter of Alex O'Myris.

01:33:59 It just gets absolutely deleted, and I think that's pretty much all she wrote here. This Onyx actually being armor tanked, this armor going down not that quickly, and he's getting some reps from this XX. So at the moment now it's Prophecy Navy being the target from Honkai Delta Force. You know, both these teams have had some success in previous Alliance tournaments, obviously Genshin Impact Alliance.

01:34:23 Wie macht die Mehrheit von dem Team einen Deep Run in den letzten A.T., als Fraternity, die noch eine andere Partie von dem Team gewinnen. So, sehr stark Piloten. Ich liebe diese Comp von dem. Es ist definitiv ein anderes Setup als der typischen Octospam, obwohl wir schon ein Missilekite haben in den Feeders gesehen haben. Und dieses Mal, es funktioniert gut für sie.

01:34:49 We are seeing the Onyx be tested. The German team, they do not have anywhere near all of their ships left alive, and yet that Onyx is still in trouble. It's probably a testament to just how few low slots it actually has when you try and do this. Now, it does look like that the Delta Force team is going to win, even if they are using an Armour Onyx, and we have been promised in...

01:35:16 Twitch chat by Birb Herbelston, that he's going to riot. So we can hopefully all expect an entertaining riot from him.

01:35:25 Was ist es ein Punkrock-Riot? Ich hoffe, es ist ein in-game-Riot. Es ist sehr wichtig. Können wir die Moshpit aus? Wir haben die Moshpit ausgesucht. Wir haben die Navy Prophecy auf dem German-Team verloren. Und das Onyx ist jetzt re-covering. Sorry, Ikaruga's Onyx ist re-genning all die Armour.

01:35:54 Es ist ein ziemlich standardes Setup von Paper Numbers, except für Armageddon. Es ist nicht so etwas you see in Octo, aber es ist eine Long-Range Newt, was definitiv etwas they wanted to play with this time around. Es war nicht ganz gut für sie. Rivesen, ein sehr guter Battleship Pilot, hat einen Namen für ihn selbst, spielt in den kleinen Tournaments und in den AT.

01:36:19 Es ist nicht gut für sie. Also haben wir GSL-Gruppen, aber sie werden dann noch nicht geholfen, aber sie haben einen Weg in die Tournament. Im Moment, Hunkai-Deltaforce, die wir in der Feeder-Gruppe sind, die in dieser gleiche Gruppe sind, wenn ich mich richtig erinnert, sind ziemlich glücklich mit gewinnen. Die Zack-Zack-LWX-Might-Stay-Alive-Might-Night-Night. Was sind deine Gedanken?

01:36:46 mit dem Gedan, stattdessen mit dem Gedan, für den Paper Numbers Team. Wenn du ein Gedan hast, dann hast du viele選ungen. Du kannst es für Damage, du kannst es für Newt, du kannst es zwischen. Es ist eine sehr variante Größe mit dem Armageddon. Es hat viele Optionen für Damage, wenn du es für Damage möchtest. Und wenn du es für Damage möchtest, dann hat es noch ein paar Utilität als Newting.

01:37:15 So we don't know exactly how many newts this Geddon has, but it's clearly got enough damage on that ship to have been able to give the Delta Force Exekera some trouble recently, but it may have been neutered now that the Exek is recovering. It's got some guns on the hardpoints I'm looking at, but unfortunately it's so damaged and there are so many effects on it, I can't quite see anything beyond that.

01:37:43 Maybe you'll have to identify how this Armageddon was fitted from its fingerprints as it looks like it's going to be the only thing left.

01:37:52 Do you leave fingerprints in space? Discuss. I should have said dental record, shouldn't I? That's what I really meant. Well, like, how are you going to leave fingerprints? Okay, now I'm actually seeing the hard points. This was full Newt, and it is going down and dead. Now just Jalthy and the Magus. You know, again... He's running away. He's running away. Is he running from the edge of the arena? I think he definitely is. He's 107 off, so they're just going to let this one...

01:38:21 Und mit einem Boundary. Well played, to Honkai Delta Force. Wir werden es zu einem kurzen break, und die Dusk wird das wiederholfen. Wir werden gleich wiederholfen.

01:39:06 Outro

01:39:41 And we are back with what a match. Pankai Delta Force coming through with 26% of the total channel points. Sweeping this win with an Armor Onyx. Um, Debs? Armor Onyx and a Flycloth? What is this?

01:40:07 Are we starting to see some of the craziness come through from Pytha?

01:40:14 Ich meine, ich denke, das ist sehr geantwortet. Es ist sicherlich eine Entscheidung. Es ist nicht unbedingt die Entscheidung, die ich hätte gemacht haben. Aber dann wieder, ich bin 0-2 in den Feeders. So vielleicht sollte ich diese Entscheidung haben. Aber es scheint sehr geantwortet. Es sieht aus wie sie die Bands gesehen haben. Sie wussten was, was sie kamen, und sie hatten eine Kompf bereit für sie. Und nur weil sie eine Kompf hatte bestimmte Entscheidungen aus dem Schiff, kann nicht wahr sein.

01:40:44 And especially if they really read that well and they knew exactly what was being brought, potentially they were scrim partners, something like that, knowing that Geddon's coming, knowing that the enemy team's going to be somewhat low on DPS means you can get away with that Armor Onyx. We did see how quickly it was going down, even with very little damage on it, relatively speaking. So I think that if they had misread that,

01:41:13 They could have been in a much worse situation where that Onyx simply wouldn't have survived under any sort of real pressure. But in this case, with what they fought, it worked out really well for them. It's hard to criticize something that worked so well. It was absolutely fantastic. We have seen armor CFIs. Allie kind of mentioned this in the back commentary that we've seen armor CFIs from Tuskers.

01:41:43 Now, were they mixed armor and shield, Allie? No, this was an entirely armor kite. So what we saw from Tuskers, and we saw this in Alliance Tournament 20 in particular, but it was a Typhoon armor kite with a Hugin and an armor Cyclone Fleet issue.

01:42:10 The great thing with Armor Kite is you get access to all the mids that would normally go with your shield modules. And the whole thesis of Kite is if we're all the way over there, they can't hit us. And if we can hit them and they can't hit us, then it doesn't matter if our tank isn't that bad, isn't that good, because we win. So you're flying the Typhoon, which is the fastest battleship. It still got caught.

01:42:39 But not before they were able to really work on paper numbers backline, get through that logistics, stuff like that. So yeah, the typhoon got caught, but it ended up being a little bit too little too late. The kite was effective in wasting time as paper numbers genuinely couldn't necessarily apply to the ships well enough at the ranges that the ships were flying in. So armor kite, it can be very effective. Execker is nice.

01:43:06 Das war ein well-flown, clearly, as Deeb said, ein well-practice comp, das sie hatte, bereit zu gehen. Und ich denke, das war etwas, was die Bands, vielleicht, kind of, targeted an. Hyena, Orthrus, es gut in Kite. Und sie sagten, oh, no Orthrus? Das ist gut, Onyx. Onyx ist wie Orthrus. So... Ja, sie definitivend haben, das letzte Breakweek zu gutem. Und...

01:43:36 It's nice to see. Quickly, we're going to go ahead and run over the bans real quick. And our next team's up, which are Rage Sub, Cancel Quit, and Mia Culpa, Selectively Recruiting. We have from Rage Sub, Cancel Quit. We have Typhoon, Hyena, and Sentinel. Mia Culpa, Selectively Recruiting. We have Carries, Mullis, and Celestis. Debs, quickly, kind of go over these bans and what we might see in the next match.

01:44:02 Sure, really quickly. We've got the same sort of generic thing. Typhoon doesn't want to see kite. Hyena, Sentinel, they don't like the webs or getting TD. They don't want those damp. And then the same thing for Mea culpa. They don't want to get damped at all, which suggests that they're either kiting or they're octo potentially, and they just don't want to get damped.

01:44:24 Definitely tracks. I guess we will see as the next match comes up. Let's go ahead and throw it to the arena and see what happens as we get this next match started.

01:44:43 Ant and Fear here in the arena with shield versus armor. And something always nice to see. Both teams in ships that are not damage type locked. It's going to be a lot harder to tank this time around. What do you see on these two teams? I see a rush from Debug's team. Rage Sub cancel quit. They've gone with a Torp Raven.

01:45:11 A long time favorite or infamous pick.

01:45:16 Untertitelung.

01:45:45 which might favor the shield rush, especially with this Tholos doing so much damage. He's webbed, he's grappled, he's trying to stay alive as this Armageddon is the first target from Rage Sub Cancel Quit. Question here with one of the first times in a few matches we've been able to see a Tholos actually make it onto the field is...

01:46:05 How many capsules is he going to have been able to fire before he does eventually go down? He is losing chunks of shield, he is gaining chunks of shield. He's painted, he's webbed, he's grappled, he's neutered, but he is staying up in spite of all of that.

01:46:20 Yeah, I mean, kind of a tanky ship for a destroyer with a massive shield booster bonus. So the local tank, as well as this Osprey, keeping him alive for the time being. Karl Randorf Horse, already 20% armor remaining. Nicholas Kion, still the primary target from this drone blob, but he's staying alive, sitting around the natural shield regen point. Might dip into armor right now, but he still has this Osprey keeping him alive. He's out of Ansel charges, though, and he will finally...

01:46:50 Aber es ist ein Trait für ein Armageddon und das ist so, so wert für Rage Subcancel Quit. Ich kann nicht glauben, dass der Tank ist auf uns. Look at das. Er ist nicht even losing Hull mehr mit dem Armageddon. Oh, he might not die. Oh, I spoke too soon. He was. You were right, he is gone. Aber mit dem Armageddon down, das ist ein huge amount von Kontroll. Vanished. Ja. Von dem Meerkalpa-Team.

01:47:18 The Tholoth has done its job. The Vexil Navy may still have a pod on it that is screwing it over. Well, it's also right in the middle of these shield missile ships. We see the burn coming in towards this Mermanon Navy and the Augur as well. I mean, it's just way too much damage. It's the perfect time to use a shield rush if you think the enemy team is not going to bring an Octo. And they didn't. They brought...

01:47:47 A drone control setup with this crucifier, which isn't going to help against all of these missiles as much as you would like.

01:47:55 And with the long range newts didn't really matter because you are right at zero and your guns do not require cap if you are a shield ship. So they're now onto this moment on Navy issue, who is also completely tackled and being taken down. Well played from RageSubCancelQuit. They did extremely well in last year's AT, so excited to see how they'll do in this year's Charity Cup. It is always a ballsy move to fly a...

01:48:22 Complete Brawl Comp in any tournament and on Tranquility as well. I love to see it. It always has spectacular results with one side either dying to the rush very quickly or themselves dying.

01:48:39 Exceptionally quickly, because they are not necessarily focusing on their tanking. And Navy Drake, this is one of my favorite kind of DPS ships. It has very good application. You never know what kind of damage is going to come out of it, and it has a very respectable shield tank. It is a solid battlecruiser for unavoidable damage. It is very solid.

01:49:01 Indeed, as we see another ship fall, the Navy Myrmidon, so it's just this Confessor for DPS, and that is it for Mea Culpa. You know, again, I love seeing these brawl comps if they work. Typically not brought by teams with as much of a pedigree as Rage Subcancel Quit. As we saw in Feeders, I don't think a whole lot of high ELO teams ended up bringing them.

01:49:28 But if you think it's going to work, even teams that have much higher ELOs are much more storied, are going to bring it. And as we see this time, the Torp Raven is supreme. And they'll get some damage on this Crucifire and Confessor. About five minutes left. This Augur, trying to keep them alive, but is currently being held down by the Onyx.

01:49:51 Es ist auch, die anderen Spielen, wie die Skram auf der Auge. Die Confessor und die Kruise-Pierre sind zu fallen. Was sind deine Gedanken? Wir sind über den Ende dieser ersten Phase des Groups. Wir haben noch mehr Spiel zu gehen. Was hast du gesehen? Ich erzähle dir, was ich gesehen habe, über die Tournament heute und zwei Wochen vorhin ist, ist, dass...

01:50:18 Very similar things, fighting each other again and again. Everybody figured it out. And it's always exciting to see something that goes ahead and tries to break the mold like this Rage Sub team here.

01:50:32 Ja, und ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

01:51:01 It's the spot. Bombers Park could be anywhere.

01:51:31 Pew, pew, pew, pew

01:51:52 All right, and we are back with a 20-80% lean towards Rage Sub Cancel Quit as Mia Culpa Selectively Recruiting goes down. Honestly, I was really happy to see that solo pop through. It's been a popular band. Like, absolutely fantastic. Allie, that Torp Raven.

01:52:22 Okay, one, by the way, Greybill, it was thrown in the back, it was thrown in that commentary that the skin was hideous. I'm on the team that I think the skin is gorgeous, so we're a split team back here on skins, but Torp Raven. It worked! Talk to me about it. Yeah, so, I...

01:52:46 If people watch the Alliance Tournament feeders, I kind of went off on Torpedoes. I think they are bad in the Alliance Tournament. However, this is not the Alliance Tournament. This is the Charity Cup, and the format is completely different. In this format, the Torp Raven is a fantastic Rush Battleship for exactly that thing that we just saw. We talked previously about...

01:53:10 Can you headshot the opposing battleship? Can you headshot the opposing battleship through reps? Well, if you want to do that, a Torpedo Raven at zero on the opposing battleship is a really good way to do it. And it doesn't even have to be at zero. The Raven gets a range bonus to Torps, so even if your Raven gets tackled a little bit far off their battleship, you'll be able to apply. You'll be full applying your Torps to the enemy battleship. You've got the rest of your team still up.

01:53:37 Und es ist eine Tonne von Dammage. Und es ist eine Tonne von Dammage. Und es ist eine Tonne von Dammage. Jetzt, wenn du mit dem Battleship bist, die Torps drop auf ein bisschen. Aber das ist okay. In all likelihood, du hast deine Battleship für ihre Battleship. Aber dann hast du viel mehr Dammage in deinem Bottom Line. Und sie sind nicht. In diesem Fall, wir haben nicht gesehen, dass die Trade go.

01:54:05 Aber es ist absolut ein besserer Schiff. Ich bin so froh, dass es hier ist. Und es scheint, dass die Kompf war sehr gut von RageSubCancelQuit.

01:54:20 They definitely pulled out the win. I feel like they definitely fought for it. Debs, there were no guns on that Geddon, from what it looked like on Mea culpa's side. Was that Newt's? What do you think the purpose of that was for? Yeah, that was absolutely Newt's. They're just trying to get the most out of that Armageddon's bonus. And Newt's against a Shield team.

01:54:46 It can be strong. It's really good at turning off enemy tank. You need to run those invuls on a shield team. So in principle, at least, you're shutting off some good portion of that tank because you can't cap boost fast enough to keep an invul cycle going. However, it does mean that you're giving up a lot of damage. Even a 2-nuke Geddon that's running rapid heavies.

01:55:13 Oder vielleicht sogar Surprise Torps. Es gibt zumindest ein paar damage. Du könntest mit Gunn auf es, auch. Es geht nicht wirklich. Aber du bist ein guter Stück von Damage. Das ist nur 400-500 DPS. Es ist immer noch ein bisschen von deinem Team, und der Rest von deinem Team hat es zu machen. Und nicht zu haben, dass das Damage wirklich machte dich auf eine disadvantage versus eine Rush, in diesem Fall. Die andere Sache könnte sie machen, ist,

01:55:41 E-War in some way to break that up. As mentioned, the Raven has a lot of range. It doesn't need to be at zero, but its range is not infinite. If you're somehow able to keep that Raven off of you, possibly by using Newts to turn off its prop, maybe you could do something. But in this case, it simply didn't work out for them. They weren't able to turn off the damage, which is really what those Newts are for.

01:56:07 Und es einfach nicht funktioniert für sie. Die Rush war auf sie zu schnell, und sie hatten keine Zeit, um es zu verabschieden.

01:56:16 It definitely happens, and they definitely gave it a shot. Now, I will just say, kind of before we go into the next match, at this point, before the first break, on day one, we are at 97% of the donation goal for our chosen charity. And I just wanted to take the time to thank everybody who has helped support so far, who has helped...

01:56:42 um, wir haben Baby Carrot!

01:57:10 Versus Blahajadeen Freedom Fighters. Baby Carrot being Brave. Blahajadeen Freedom Fighters, or BFFs, being Neon Nightmares. Representing Neon Nightmares, rather. And some interesting bands. Right now, Baby Carrot, led by... Actually, somebody who you might know from production from our theaters, Dujak.

01:57:39 Baby Carrot has banned the Sentinel, the Crucifier, and the Arbitrator. Lahajedine Freedom Fighters, or BFF, has banned the Keres, the Jackdaw, and the Tholos. Allie, these bans, how do they speak to you? So, I find it interesting that, you know, Jintan, we weren't allowed to ban more than two ships from a position. But that doesn't mean that you can't ban all of a particular type of Ewar. Baby Carrot...

01:58:08 You are not allowed to bring tracking disruptors. You are not allowed to bring guidance disruptors. We've seen them fly a shield gun protection comp. I believe we also saw them fly a shield kite. They could be trying to run one of those back from the feeders. Meanwhile, Jackdaw is a pretty good targeted ban against those sorts of shield protection comps. Carries very annoying Ewarfrig and Tholos.

01:58:32 Very popular ban throughout the day. So I feel like the Blahajidine Freedom Fighters are maybe a little bit targeting the comp that Baby Carrot was trying to ban towards. So we'll see how they adapt to that.

01:58:50 Alright, well, as chat in local, somebody asked chat, am I, I am nervous, can somebody wish me good luck? I don't know which team they're on, but either way, good luck to both teams. Right now it's sitting in an even split between 50-50 on the outcome. Honestly, this is, it's adjusting itself slightly, but we're seeing a rough five point.

01:59:19 Okay, I can't do math. Six-point difference. As we go into this match, it's okay. It's a common factor. Goons can only count to four. But, hey, this will be very interesting going forward. And let's go ahead and throw it to the arena with our commentators for the last match before the break.

01:59:48 Welcome back to the Arena. My name is Hirvana, joined by Phantomite, and I'm a little bit torn on this match. Brave is my own alliance, but I currently am the proud owner of a Blow High, as Blow Heading and Freedom Fighters are on the blue side, and it looks like we have a Gun Spam Muir matchup, but an Abba versus a Tempest, not a common ship in these comps at all.

02:00:13 No, I am interested to see how the Tempest is going to perform against the Abaddon. It has a few extra tricks up its sleeve, like it has utility that the Abaddon doesn't have. It has a bit of extra speed for maneuverability, something that the Abaddon definitely doesn't have. And it has some different damage types, but it does not have the same tank at all. So we are about to see what kind of a difference that makes in this almost mirror.

02:00:37 Arian Felhu in the Kitsune immediately jamming out the Mollus of Isaac Igunen, who is now the target from Baby Carrot. Isaac Igunen sitting in low armor, but they've got an AUG repping them up.

02:00:54 So they should be alive for the time being. No one's really burning in at the moment except for Dujek One Eye in this Abba who's trying to get some better ranges perhaps on this Tempest. The Tempest burning away is a bit of an interesting choice, not something we typically see with that ship, but they are getting some damage onto Dujek One Eye's Abba for the time being as Brave still focusing on the smallest.

02:01:18 You know, it's interesting to see, to figure out what they're trying to do by running their DPS away, you know, they're running their Tempest away from the Baby Carrot team. Are they trying to lure a smaller ship out, outside of the protective range of the Ogora? What are they trying to do here? Now, that Morlus, obviously, you know, Kitsune was trying to jam it, but you've got to remember that even if the Kitsune succeeds in jamming the Morlus, that Morlus can still just...

02:01:46 In a lot of cases lock the Kitsune back, damp it off, and win that fight once and for all. Yeah, and immediately we saw some damps on the Abba and the Devoter, and the Kitsune swapped this jam to the Mollus. It immediately happens, and thus the damps now have to go back to the Kitsune. Some jams happening on this Navy Prophecy as well, some pains on the Phobos.

02:02:09 Brave poking and prodding with their DPS. Dujek One-Eye setting full armor at the moment, now getting some damage onto this Tempest, as Arcosis Duloc in the Prophecy Navy now seems to be the primary from Blohydin Freezerm fighters. Meanwhile, though, this Tempest is starting to burn in now, but it is starting out with lower armor than Dujek One-Eye's ABBA. It is, and what we can see is when Dujek...

02:02:34 Und als das Tempest finally get in range to punch that Tempest in the face, it lost half of its armor in one go. The volley, the overall DPS on an Abaddon is huge. It is a very high-damaged battleship. It's just very slow, but once it's there, it's hitting hard. We can still see the Tempest losing, for a battleship, fair chunks of its armor right now.

02:02:58 Yeah, and both of these ships have grappled each other. Scram and Anut from the Tempest as well on top of this Abaddon. Phobos has a long scram on the Devoter as well, and Reps going out across the entirety of this Red Side. Shavala Indari piloting that Augurer. She has done an excellent job in previous ATs, and they've got Repbots on their team as well. But the Dams are now landing onto this Devoter, who no longer has a scram on top of them, still scramming up the Navy Prophecy. This Tempest of Dragonlord.

02:03:28 Currently sitting at 58% armor. Hasn't been able to rep as necessary. Arcosis Duloc and the Prophecy Navy sitting 64% armor. We did see the Navy Prophecy there starting to lose a fair bit of armor. And it has just started receiving reps. We'll see if it can start recovering. But for a ship that is bonused for hit points, having lost more than half already, it looks like it could be in trouble. That's certainly a lot more lost than the Tempest has so far. And that's what they've been focusing.

02:03:57 Yeah, the Tempest setting 50% armor remaining versus Arcosis Duloc currently setting 20% armor remaining. These ships in terms of points are only one point apart, but the Tempest, of course, does more damage, has a bit more tank, and that...

02:04:13 When it comes to high hit point ships, when it's armor...

02:04:38 We just lost that Prophecy Navy issue there. When it comes to armor, armor of course has the reactive armor hardener. So when you have to shoot a ship for quite some time, that gives it all the time in the world to shift its resistances to that. So as time goes on, at least for a few cycles, your effective DPS versus an armor target drops.

02:05:02 Indeed, it does. Shavala Indari now taking damage from Blohydin Freedom Fighters. Aryan Felu trying to jam out. Looks like the Augur, so trying to neutralize the Laji. But now, finally, Brave has swapped off of the Tempest, getting a little bit of damage on the Mini Shro in the Augur. The match isn't quite over yet, but this Aug of Shavala Indari setting much lower armor than Mini Shro. But Brave is still trying their best.

02:05:32 Orgora, he's not picking it back up. He hasn't managed to move out of damage range. You know, he's doing like one and a half kilometers a second. He's not managing to get out of the damage range. He's just dying.

02:05:45 Ja, diese Augur, Shivala Ndari, ich meine, sehr low Structure. Sie versuchen zu regieren die Armour gerade jetzt. 7%, 4%, 3%, 6%. Aber sie sind Bleeding Structure so, so schnell. Und sie sind endlich down. Und mit der Prophecy Navy, und mit der Augur gone, es sieht nicht gut für Baby Carrot.

02:06:06 The Freedom Fighters here look like they have survived the initial onslaught. They've taken out the reps, they've taken out a significant portion of the DPS. Perhaps if they manage to get rid of that Kitsun, now that it's going to be basically unsupported, they could have this fight. Indeed, they could. I mean, the Kitsun, Aryan Fellow just trying to keep the Augur jammed, but we see the Tempest all the way up to full armor, a web on the Magus as Ivan the Bad.

02:06:36 Die Neon-Nightmares-Nightmares-Nightmares

02:07:03 No, I mean, you know, this baden, this absolute brick that is left on the field here is being hit completely by that Tempest. The Tempest is basically at a complete standstill so that it can put its full onslaught. It can track perfectly and pump everything it's got into that baden. Between the Tempest and the Navy Prophecy on the Freedom Fighters team, they have a wide array of potential damage types, essentially potentially rendering a reactive hardener on Dujek's baden pointless.

02:07:34 Und Blowhydeen, Freedom Fighters, might make this 100-0 match. Keeping this damage on the Abaddon, Alifil and the Devoter. Unfortunately for her, she hasn't been able to have a whole lot of impact this particular match. Got some scrams early, but then ended up getting damped off. Now is currently double scrammed, one by the Phobos and one by something else. And unable to really contribute at the moment. I'll do Jack OneEye, finally in structure. GFs are in local.

02:08:04 Und Blowhideen und Freedom Fighters werden dieses Spiel gewinnen und 1-0 in der Gruppe gewinnen. Was sind deine Gedanken vor dem Spiel enden? Ich habe es wirklich in meinem Gedanken, dass sie, wenn sie sehr damage locked waren, ich wirklich dachte, dass Baby Carrot hatte das. Ich fühle mich, dass die Damage von der Baden, mit der extra Tank, als es mit der Tempest war, als es zu den Tempest war. Ich dachte, dass das wirklich was, um sie zu bringen. Unfortunately, nicht für sie, bei der looksensten.

02:08:33 And Alphil sitting 50% armor remaining. The full brunt of this Tempest finally burning into range to take down the Devoter. And this will end the first half of the day. We're going to swap the teams that were in Arena 1 are going to be in Arena 2 on the secondary stream. The teams from Arena 2 are going to show up in Arena 1 for the second half of the desk. I will be on the desk.

02:08:57 And not commentating. Commentary will be taken over by Deevs and Greybill. But before that, we're going to take a quick break. The desk will then break that down and then we'll go to the long break. So we'll be right back after this.

02:09:59 I have F***ing 6!

02:10:18 And we are back from the battle of the skins between Baby Carrot and Blahajadeen Freedom Fighters. Oh my gosh. So I'm just going to give a shout out to both of them. The skins were wonderful. It was a nice fight.

02:10:36 Fantastisch. Debs, die Nudes, die Tempest und die Gedden sind in etwa 1,000 m, waren wirklich close. Kannst du, was du denkst, was going on mit dem? So, ich denke, da waren ein paar Dinge da. Für eine Sache, was die Tempest zu tun, war es einfach unter den Abaddon der Guns des Abaddon.

02:11:04 Mit der Grapple war es ziemlich hart zu tun, aber es war es, dass sie viel von der Theoretical Damage waren, die Abaddon könnten. Dann haben wir die Reaktive Armour Harder, die Tempest wohl sicherlich hatte. Die enemy Team war quasi entweder Damage-Locked. Sie hatten Rep Drones, so es gab nicht Damage Drones.

02:11:24 Messing with Reactive Armor Hardener, or punching into some explosive hole that didn't exist. So you've got a Tempest that is really well tanking, EM Thermal. You've got the attempted to get under the guns there, which was at least somewhat successful. And then you've got Newt's. And while the Abaddon certainly has Catboosters on it, and I doubt it ran out, we saw it firing its guns the entire time.

02:11:50 Das Nute Pressure will make it harder. It will mean that the guns fire a little bit less. They've had this famously cap-hungry, and it does struggle a little bit. And with two heavy Nutes from that Tempest, it's going to struggle just a little bit more.

02:12:07 Ja, es war definitiv ein fight, und sie waren close, sie waren dukend es aus. Alli, Mollus versus Kitsun, und warum sie vielleicht mit dem Tempest gegangen sind? Kannst du mir eine Summary für das? Ja, ich denke, Dieb's covered die meisten von dem Tempest, aber nur eine note, um die Ewer-Frigate matchups, wir haben gesehen. Kitsun...

02:12:32 Very great, very effective. You can jam things out, jam out Logi, jam out DPS to take the pressure off of your team, etc. But the mollusk is a very good counter for it. And I think we saw that in this matchup where the mollusk can just damp the kitsune. And then the kitsune either has to come in to where it can get shot or just can't jam anything other than potentially jam anything at all. And if you don't...

02:13:02 If the kitsune jams the mollusk, then the mollusk just turns around and jams the kitsune. And it ends up favoring the team with the mollusk. I think that's what we saw here. For sure. It definitely seemed to have an impact.

02:13:20 Unfortunately, Baby Carrot did take the L on that. I do hope that we see them and their wonderful skins at another point going forward in this weekend. But congratulations to Bala Hajadeen Freedom Fighters. Wow. BFFs for that match. And with that, we are going to take a short break. Just to let everybody...

02:13:48 Make sure that we aren't shrimps while we're sitting here and going over the rest of the matches. So we will be back here shortly.

02:26:05 And we are back! Wonderful, we have PostPodClarity and Chief, oh goodness, Chief Keith Zionist Movement. Lots of words, but fantastic teams. Oh goodness, I'm trying to find...

02:26:29 I can't find my stats. Alright. So, the only one that I'm showing is represented by anybody is PostPodClarity, representing, uh, well, PostPodClarity! And with that, we have bans for both teams. PostPodClarity going the Carys, Mollus, and Tholos. Chief Keef, Zionist... Oh, goodness. Movement is banning the...

02:26:57 Crucifier, Arbitrator, and Sentinel. Fear, welcome to the analyst desk. I'm going to throw this to you. What do you think about the bands?

02:27:08 Neither team wants to see control, and one team doesn't want to see rush. That's pretty much it, right? All the bans were E-War except for the Tholos, and one team was just banning out all forms of tracking and guidance disruption. That typically is a tell that they want to run some form of gun spam, but we will see how they have adapted to the bans going into the match.

02:27:35 Of course. Now, with them not wanting to see maybe Kite or Rush, just maybe off of these band steps, do you think we're maybe going to see Mirror Octos? I mean, saying yes is just sort of a pretty easy bet. You can not look at any bands and assume that, and you're probably going to be right throughout the day today. So I don't know that I'm making a particularly exciting choice by saying, yeah, Mirror Octos seems pretty likely here.

02:28:05 Okay. I mean, with the fact that Octo and on top of that Shield Octo, or as we call it, Shockto, is kind of in the top of the meta right now. I wonder if we might... Do you think, Fear, we might see an Armor vs. Shield Octos?

02:28:26 It really depends, I think. If a team thinks that their version of Shield Octo is better than the other team's Armor Octo, they might bring it. But it looks like the arena is just about set. So it's about time to hand over. Yeah, so let's go ahead and throw it to the arena. Which, you're gonna laugh, but fear!

02:28:50 Actually, yeah. It's Debs. Actually, no, it's Debs. Oh my god, it's Debs. Not Fear. Fear, you were hanging out with me this time. But Debs, we're gonna throw it to you in the arena.

02:29:04 Hi, welcome to the arena. This is me again, Deebz, along with Greybill. We've got two teams lined up in front of us. Greybill, can you talk us through the comps here? Yeah, we've got a pretty much mirror match going on here. Basically all the same, except with one difference. This is the cruiser slot where Chief Keef Zionists have chosen a Phobos, and Yamate Kodasi brought a Blackbird.

02:29:32 So it will come down to the jams. Yeah, absolutely. We're seeing that with that extra set of jams, we potentially, the Blackbird can jam off anything hitting that kitsune. And the Phobos with the tackle. So we'll see how this goes. Links are going up now.

02:29:57 I wonder if we ever will see the Prophecy Navy being banned, because it basically has been in every match so far. I can't remember at least. And now we see them going in, and it seems like both teams are more or less slow-boating into each other. It's going to be somewhat of a brawl, it seems. Yeah, we see the Phobos racing in a little bit here, trying to get Tackle on something.

02:30:23 They're trying to wipe out each other's E-Warp, and it's succeeding a little bit on here for the Kitsune, going down pretty low armor, but it looks like it might have some transversal now, and it is now surviving a little bit. As I say that, it goes away. That's one Kitsune down, but they still have the Blackbird up, so they're not out of jams yet.

02:30:46 Indeed, now the gems are even. Just the damage is in favor of Chief Keef at the moment. And you're gonna see how this plays out. Of course, we can't really see if the gems are actually landing. That's a thing. We can only say that things are getting jammed or attempted to be jammed. But right now, there's not much damage except on towards Starlord's Blackbird here.

02:31:12 Because that's, of course, something they can still shoot, even if you're jammed. And we see that scram from the Phobos onto the Blackbird, notably here, that there is nothing that the perv team can do here to stop that Blackbird from getting tackled, really. Their only option was the Magus, and the Phobos managed to keep that at arm's distance. And now we see the Blackbird going down, so they are now out of jams.

02:31:39 versus a team that still has its Kitsune basically untouched at this point. Yeah, it's pretty much falling apart for Yamate here. And that Phobos is, by the way, radial fitted. So if radial Phobos can punch you down that quick, then it's a testament for how well your tank is, right? But it might be that the Ogre was jammed as well, because there's still the Kitsune on the Chief Kitsune's team.

02:32:08 We see that Augur now going down pretty quickly. Not tackled yet. The Magus did manage to get in and hold that Phobos down, but a little too late to save their Blackbird. Some DPS now going on to the Kitsune as well. That Abaddon and Prophecy Navy are pretty close, but they have now lost their Augur. Yeah, meanwhile in the back line, the Magus of Dryden is still tackling that Phobos.

02:32:35 Das ist etwas, was er gemacht hat, wenn der Phobos rutscht in den Blackbird. Und jetzt ist er nichts zu tun, als der Phobos, die Abaddon und die Prophecy-Navy einfach nur das Problem aus dem Phobos entfernt. Jetzt ist der Abaddon und die Prophecy-Navy einfach nur an Abaddon und die Prophecy-Navy einfach nur an Abaddon und die Prophecy-Navy einfach nur durch alles, was einfach nicht passiert. Ja, also auch bei den Kitsune.

02:33:04 So, this is basically a clean-up job now for Chief Kyiv Institutionist Movement. What a name.

02:33:14 You see that Prophecy now going down slowly, the Phobos burning in for maximum damage, perhaps landing on the Kitsune despite it having shields. The team here trying to take out that auger, but with absolutely no way to force the application on it, the auger being free to simply walk away. It's got armor maintenance bots on it as well.

02:33:40 And I don't think that there's any way that they can possibly pull this back. Prophecy Navy just about to go down. It's tackled. The Phobos is now on the Abaddon as well. So no MJD plays trying to save something here. Yeah, indeed. Seems like the skin game for EMRT didn't play out, as you can see on stream. The Chief Keef 2 in his movement has some very fancy skins here.

02:34:09 I guess that helped with the moral quite a bit. Skin Tank is, I am informed, the best tank and is most important to winning. Right, we have proof right here in this match.

02:34:26 And we see this Abaddon very slowly going down. Not a Shield Abaddon, unlike a couple matches ago. So it will die slightly slower. But with the full DPS from the other side being punched into it, it simply cannot survive. And it will eventually collapse. Seems like it's still using up these ancillary charges from its wrapper. But they're good for it sorely and local.

02:34:56 Oh, it's not the local rep, it seems. Some random auger appeared and started to rep Captain Tuban here. Well, I guess the Logitrolls are strong during this tournament. Yeah, but the auger reps are insufficient and the abatting goes down, allowing us to send this back to the analyst desk, where I'm sure I'll talk about many interesting things that happened during this match.

02:35:25 Stop being casual. They're really bad. We should not lose anybody to this. Warp off. Warp off. Take the fleet warp. Everybody warp off. This is a really, really bad execution. I'm very disappointed.

02:35:52 Krush our enemies! Your damms are completely dammed out. Krush, I'm dammed out, I'm dammed out. Get out of my chambers, boys! Heat your hips. Everything down. I have not been able to lock us in with you all game. I'm jammed.

02:36:27 All right, and we are back. What if I post pod clarity with the higher of the percentage at 72% taking a loss to Chief Keef Zionist movement about that fear, that blackbird.

02:36:49 What was going on with that? We've seen a couple teams do double jam control with a Scorpion and a Kitsune or something of that nature. This is the first time we've seen a Blackbird. The unfortunate thing about a Blackbird is that it doesn't have a very good jam strength bonus as opposed to the T2 counterparts, even though it has the range. What we saw there at the start of the match was the Kitsune

02:37:16 was able to jam its targets, but the Blackbird wasn't able to jam enough targets on the enemy team to keep the kitsune alive. And as a result of that, the damage was able to kill the kitsune, now all of a sudden you have the weaker jam strength ship as your last jamming ship alive, and in place of a DPS ship too. So you're losing however much damage a Pulse Devoter or Rail Phobos would have gotten you.

02:37:45 Das ist wirklich eine Frage für mich, um das Blackbird in lieu of etwas zu tun, das würde mehr damage machen. Just generally speaking, ich fühle mich, wenn du eine Tech-One-Jamming-Ship hast, es sollte wahrscheinlich die Skorpion sein. Wir haben einige decenter uses von das in diesem tournament. Aber für die Zeit, ich liebe die Blackbird. Ich denke, es ist definitiv...

02:38:12 Probably lost in the match because the kitsune died and the blackbird died and then all of a sudden you've got nothing and you are being jammed out by the enemy kitsune who was not your primary at the start of the match either. So it does seem to be a combination of not the greatest of comps and not the greatest of targeting decisions from PPC.

02:38:36 Yep, it was more than definitely a choice. Now, with that, Rails kind of, they really stepped up into the damage and absolutely kind of provided a little bit of a Cinderella story, honestly, with such a big gap.

02:38:58 Honestly, I'm here for it. I'm here for it. Now, with kind of going over that match, next up we have Odin's Call Me Maybe with Premature Evacuation. This is an elimination match. Both teams are 0-1, which means whoever wins this will stay alive. Whoever loses has to go home.

02:39:26 With that, Odin's Call Me Maybe has banned the Armageddon, the Sentinel, and the Crucifier, Premature Evacuation, has banned the Jackdaw, Hyena, and Crew War, which is an interesting choice. Debs, what do you think about those ban picks?

02:39:43 So Armageddon Sentinel Crucifier, again, these are your standards. We don't want to see TDs. The Armageddon scares us because it's got long-range newts. We don't like long-range newts. And then Jackdaw Hyena Crewer is a much more interesting set of bands to me. That's saying no kite. They don't want the hyena to be webbing them down as they run into somebody. The Jackdaw as well. And then the Crewer also frigate webs.

02:40:08 So they're trying to get rid of those frigate webs. They're trying to get rid of the jackdaw that provides potentially either a lot of support with something like remote sea bows in the mids, paints in the mids, or just long-range DPS with light missiles where the jackdaw can reach out and touch enemy E-War really easily and get rid of it. So I think we're going to see some sort of frigate E-War, probably the carries, maybe the kitsune from Basilisk's team there.

02:40:36 And then on the other side, it really could be anything. None of those bands really scream anything particular to me.

02:40:46 Honestly, I'm really curious to see what we see with the Heavywebs, with the Crewwar, with how much E-War is in these bans. Seeing if maybe we see a little bit more heavy on the Damps. Stuff along those lines. I guess we'll see. Of these two teams, of course,

02:41:15 Odin's Call Me Maybe, representing Odin's Call, and then premature evacuation is... Honestly, I'm not seeing them represent anybody, so potentially, maybe...

02:41:35 Some sort of a newer team. Do you think that they have what it takes to go against Odin's Kola? It's the Baza team. Odin's has more tournament pedigree, but Baza's been commentating some of these tournaments for a long time. He's had won prize ships a couple years ago with Jutsu, and then had a little mishap happen with some contracts.

02:42:02 But, you know, going 0-1-1 in groups, really trying to stay alive, I still think Odins probably wins this. Notably, Baza will be on here in just a little bit to talk about how his team does in this match. So I'm sure we can get some interesting discussions with him about that. But I also must go for Odins here. Sorry, Baza. Yeah, you know, I as well am sorry, Baza.

02:42:34 I love, I love when I see cool skins and, you know, just from knowing which teams have been in here, practicality versus theory, I too am going Odin's Call at this point. It looks like chat is agreeing and everybody watching is agreeing with Odin's Call going at 62% right now, Premature of Actuation going 37%.

02:43:01 Would I absolutely love to be an upset here? Yes. Am I expecting an upset here? No. But, you know, we won't know until the teams land in the grid. We won't know until we see what's going on. So that'll be its own kind of figuring out what happens. So, yeah, we'll figure it out.

02:43:30 All righty. Okay, so with the bans currently, the only battleship is the Geddon. That leaves a lot of room open, Debs. There are so many options here, and if you notice, they didn't ban the Tholos. Thoughts on that?

02:43:56 With the Tholos being open, I think it's definite that we could see it. See a rush potentially would be an interesting thing to see. We've seen it work once now today. Maybe it can work again with some good Tholos piloting. We know these teams have the ability to use the Tholos well. They've got the piloting capability to use it and not just get caught out. I think the arena has loaded up now.

02:44:25 With that, it does sound like the arena has loaded, the teams have landed. Let's go ahead and roll it to them and to Debs and Greybill and let them take over.

02:44:44 Alright, welcome back to the arena. This time not with a mirror match, but a very high stakes match, as we have heard. The loser of this match is out of the tournament.

02:45:00 Ja, und wir haben zwei wirklich interessanten Comps hier. Wir haben ein Fairly Standard Okto von Odin's Call, aber dann von Basilisk's Team, wir haben ein Maelstrom, ein Tholos und ein Kirin für Logi, das ist etwas, was wir definitiv wollen, und wir sind jetzt über zu gehen. Greybilt, thoughts on the Kirin? Well, sehr interessant pick, indeed. Es wird hart zu track.

02:45:29 Because there are, at least from what we can tell at the moment, no webs on the team of Odin's Call Me Maybe. So with them after Burn, at least Kirin will be very hard to track. So maybe drones will be the option of choice here. I think that may be what they do. But that said, damage onto the Cyclone Fleet Issue, absolutely pummeling it already in half shields just very quickly. Reps now landing.

02:45:57 It looks like it's stabilizing at about half. I say that as it just loses more shields. Now sort of stabilizing, but it keeps getting chunked down. Yeah, good call here by Odin's call to focus on the Battlecruiser, which has a rather big signature and you can apply very well to even with the large lasers from the Abaddon. And meanwhile, they are trading blows.

02:46:24 mit der Abaddon. Aber der Cyclone ist bereits in der Armour. Es ist nicht gut. Ja, der Cyclone ist es still boosting. Presumably still trying to hold on. Der Abaddon ist auch sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr hoch. Potenziell Damp's kommen. Ich sehe Reps landen. So, jetzt der Abaddon könnte es stabilisieren. Wir sehen, ich sehe es nur noch etwas.

02:46:53 Ja, vielleicht, aber der Maelstrom ist Auto-Cannon-Fit, so das ist ein vieles von unten. Es ist wahrscheinlich Leading-Hail und hofft sie es nicht. Aber jetzt sieht es, dass sie die Phobos swapped. Es sieht, dass sie split-damage hier sind, eigentlich. Phobos und Abaddon sind beide runter. Abaddon droppte und runter, starten zu hit Hull. Sie haben nicht getrennt, dass es noch etwas anderes ist.

02:47:22 The Onyx in half shields, but that's a tough target to kill. It doesn't look like the Onyx has his HIC module online, which allows him to currently receive reps from the Kirin, but it doesn't seem like it's enough to keep him up. He's dropping and dropping. That said, he's not dropping faster than the Abaddon, or if he is, it's very, very tight. The Abaddon is now in about a third structure.

02:47:51 Out of armor, rapidly dropping further, no reps coming in. The Abaddon is now down, and that might mean that the Onyx is able to stabilize there in about a quarter shields. Yeah, and meanwhile, the Phobos is also going into low armor here, now catching some reps, but it doesn't look like the Augurer here can maintain his teams. Yeah, and we see the Prophecy Navy going down simultaneously.

02:48:16 Split damage, there's just so much damage going around, largely because of that Tholos able to throw out those delayed DPS and just cause damage to happen to the enemy team without any further effort. Seeing that play out here and seeing the Tholos used very, very well, very effectively to cause problems for the enemy launching. Meanwhile, we see the Phobos trying to pull some range here, and he's in fact stabilizing a bit.

02:48:45 Ich bin jetzt mit dem HALF Armour wieder. Managed to pull some range und get out of the hem range of the Onyx hier.

02:48:54 But unfortunately, that has left the Prophecy Navy without Reps. The Reps now just starting to land, but coming in very, very late. That Onyx still just holding in quarter shields, especially with the Phobos taking range, not able to apply its full damage to it. And in fact, with Rails going into Kaldari T2 resist, not that effective anyways. The Onyx now stabilizing, and it looks like Odin's call.

02:49:23 might be dropping this match here. Yeah, looks like it. Meanwhile, Martin realized that he wasn't in a great spot here in his Karis and burns back in the lodgy range of his Augur. But at the moment, premature evacuation is still ahead here by two big ships, or no, one ship actually. The battleship is quite a significant thing to have lost here from Odin's call.

02:49:52 And now it seems like the auger is the next target for premature evacuation.

02:50:00 Yep, it looks like that has a scram on it from the onyx. It is caught. It will drop slightly slowly here as the maelstrom gets in range, but there's really nothing for it to do at this point. With only a Phobos left for any sort of significant damage, there's nowhere that it's going to go.

02:50:24 Ja, ich bin kind of surprised, dass der Lone Kirin hier, der Lone Logifrick, hat sich zu erlangen, dass der Tholos, dass es sehr schrecklich ist, und es hat einen großen Schlag. Das war beeindruckend. Ja, ich denke, wir sehen hier, warum jeder hat sich über die Tholos gefällt.

02:50:51 und warum wir es gesehen haben, dass es in so viele Matches gibt, mit es zu ermöglichen, das Split Damage zu ermöglichen, ermöglichen die Abilität für sie zu machen, wenn es needed ist, oder einfach die Lodgie zu ermöglichen, und die Lodgie zu versuchen, die Lodgie zu geben, irgendwo. Wir sahen das mit den Phobos. Wir sahen das mit den Prophecy, als auch. Und wir sahen wie einfach es war.

02:51:16 Ja, und ich hoffe, dass das Fobos hier für ein M.J.D. spielt. In eine bestimmte Richtung. Ja, sieht es.

02:51:30 Es ist gut. Ich glaube nicht, dass es eine sehr gute Runde wird, aber wir sehen, wie weit es geht. 190 Kilometer ist nicht schlecht. Für einen Cruiser ist das gut. Das ist gut. Das ist gut. Nicht ein Patch auf dem record.

02:51:49 Looks like the carries might go for one as well. We see it getting pretty close to an MJD. And the Magus, they are all going for it. We will see how far each one of them get. The Magus, good run. Yeah, it looks like a good approach, but now he's turning. He wasn't happy with this approach, it seems. Oh, no, 200.

02:52:10 215, that's pretty good. That's very good. Very good indeed. Carrie is now lining up for a final run on the MJD Beacon, making sure that we don't have to sit here and commentate as they slowly die.

02:52:29 A very gentleman move. The record of the arena boundary is, by the way, 231.5 kilometers held by Azure and Argent at the moment. The carries managed MJD within the arena. That is not how you get a boundary violation. Do better.

02:52:55 Er ist ein 5 Minutes von Fehm in der Moment.

02:53:14 Ja, und er ist nicht gehandelt, er ist gehandelt ein bisschen. Mal sehen, ob er es nach dem Beacon geht in Zeit, bevor die Drones arbeiten können. Und ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

02:53:38 But his hull doesn't last much longer. Oh boy. I think those drones are going to steal his chance at glory.

02:53:47 And we're done, just as he started activating that MJD unit. With that, Odin's Call is out of this tournament, and we will send it back to the analyst desk. Has someone promised to double your risk? Have you been hit by a hypernet scheme?

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02:55:03 Perfect. And we are back with a little bit of an upset. And honestly, RIP my points. Because they... I was... I put them all on Odin. Because I had faith in Allie and their wonderfulness from the stream that we did last week. And I am now sad. But... With that...

02:55:32 We had a Kirin win for the first time, Fear. Like, this is the second time we've seen T2 Logi. And now we have this. Wow. Why did it come into play here?

02:55:49 I think the idea, right, is a lot of the time, as I've seen in, especially Octomir matches, the Logi just kind of gets traded immediately at the start. So the idea is we're going to have more survivable Logi in a Tenement Shield, or in a Tenement...

02:56:09 T2 Logifrig, which is able to Sig Tank and is not going to be as easily tracked, especially because teams aren't really taking any sort of bonus paints or anything like that, versus any sort of Octo-type setup. In exchange for lower repping power, it'll stay on the grid longer and we'll be able to get a rip.

02:56:28 Und wir haben gesehen, dass die Kieren nicht mehr touched haben, bei Odin's Call. Sie haben das Fleet Cyclone auf den Start und die Kieren able, zu kind of keep es alive ein bisschen länger, und die Onyx, auch, für ein bisschen länger, als vielleicht Odin's Call wollte. Und sie haben das Abaddon gewonnen, und dann die Onyx stayed alive. Und wirklich, kind of, an interesting play, und es war dieses Match,

02:56:57 Odins didn't feel like they could even apply to it. And it did give them enough staying power to kind of turn the tides in the early trades. It did. It did enough to have a pull and upset in this Elim. The first Elim. Oh gosh. Well, Debs, that Tholos, he was absolutely, absolutely pulling.

02:57:25 Talk to me about him. Sure. So the Tholos is an interesting ship. It is the first, along with its bigger brother, the Cenotaph, the first ship in the game that does extended damage over time, even if you don't have anything locked. So we saw that used here. We saw why it's banned. With it being able to throw its dot onto multiple ships at once and without wasting damage, as it were.

02:57:52 put that damage on multiple ships, cause the Logi to struggle, to have to rep multiple targets, to be able to bring something down so that a hard swap potentially can just take it out very quickly without the Logi being able to swap over, especially with armor reps, which apply at the end of the cycle, meaning that it's a very long time for you to be able to bring that rep power to bear if the enemy team swaps.

02:58:16 So I think we saw that used very well. We saw what I called as split damage, but really wasn't. It was just the Tholos using that new interesting module to cause the enemy team to struggle. And we saw it used very well, and I think we saw why it's been banned.

02:58:36 Ja, ich bin, hey, ich freue mich zu sehen, ehrlich gesagt, mehr. Das ist mein persönliches Wissen, weil ich liebe die Show, oder liebe die Show, die es gibt. Aber nächst, wir haben Aggressively Midtier. Wer ist Rote Kapel? Versus Against Nanite Toothpaste.

02:58:59 Aggressively Midtier has banned the Scorpion, the Sentinel, and the Crucifier. Nanite Toothpaste is banning the Typhoon, Orthrus, and Raven. Fear, what are these bans kind of throwing, speaking out to you? One team doesn't want to be kited, and the other team doesn't want to be controlled. The arena is ready, though, so we should probably head to it. Yeah, let's go ahead and throw it to them and get this match started.

02:59:31 Hello, and welcome back to the Arena. We have Nana Toothbase bringing in GEDDON, Prophecy Navy, ECU, Arbitrator, Execuror Magus, and Caris. What does the Aggressivial Midtier bring to the table? They're bringing a pretty standard setup here of ADDON, Prophecy Navy, Phobos, AUG, Pontifex, Caris. So we've got the Caris as matched. We've got a Phobos for the Arbitrator.

02:59:57 And otherwise, very, very similar Magus and Exec versus Ponifex and Augur. So a little bit of Galente versus Ammar there. Indeed. We saw before how the Ponifex and the Magus can be very key choices in terms of how the Ewar goes. So it'll be interesting to see how that plays out here. Yeah, that fourth midslot on the Magus can help a lot, giving the edge to your Keras.

03:00:26 so you're giving a remote sensor booster and then it can just perform a little bit stronger than your opposing charis might but the teams are on the way here launching drones and off we go

03:00:40 And we see here, it does look like that Magus has provided the ability for the carries of Nanite Toothpaste to win that damp war. So we see that carries not being effective on the Rota Capella side, aggressively mid-tier, and also taking a little bit of damage, but tanking for now. Yeah, it's also target painted, and we see the...

03:01:06 We see that the Prophecy Navy had the...

03:01:33 Armageddon tacked him for a little bit, but is struggling to keep that scram on as the Armageddon turns all of those heavy newts onto the Prophecy Navy, also putting a couple onto the Phobos, it looks like, and just generally making a nuisance of itself. But now that Prophecy seems to have figured out how to get his Catbooster cycled. He's managing to keep that scram on more often than not, and the Geddon is now...

03:02:02 ...to some degree isolated from the rest of his team. Yeah, that's a good play from the aggressively mid-tier team here. Isolating that Geddon Navy from the rest of its team. And also denying or giving the ability to themselves to get a distance and stay away from the bonus heavy nudes of this Armageddon. That said...

03:02:31 Instead of doing that, they are simply diving in, going to zero on it, and trying to put as much damage into it as possible, seeing if they can break this get in, presumably with the help of the carries damping out that exec, preventing it from getting reps on, which does look to be not effective yet. Still seeing reps land from that executor, the carries getting bounded out, being prevented from getting into that exec to put damps on it.

03:03:02 Manchmal gibt es ein paar Rept-Drones, aber es sieht nicht so aus. Es scheint nicht genug zu nehmen, dass Abaddon nicht genug ist. Es ist noch sehr nahe und persönlich. Und es sieht gut aus.

03:03:19 Yeah, the Geddon's really not moving at all, so the Abaddon is really its own worst enemy when it comes to tracking here, but it seems to be doing a good job of not out-tracking itself. The Prophecy Navy does appear to be struggling a little bit with getting lasers out, but it does have a pretty good drone bay, and as I say that, it is actually shooting.

03:03:46 Yeah, it will basically cap inject in between or right after a new cycle of the Gannon hits him because the heavy nudes have quite a long cycle time. So it gives an opportunity to inject some cap, get some modules going, keep the lasers shooting for a while until the next heavy nudes cycle hits. And in between that time, you can do some serious damage.

03:04:12 And we see that as the Geddon now entering structure, certainly desperately hoping that at some point these newts will come into play and turn off that damage from the Abaddon. But I don't think it's going to happen in time. Yeah, I like how Kibit in his four-ball set positioned himself. He is basically screening and also being a threat to the Nenna 2-speed team here at the same time. He's right between the...

03:04:41 Armageddon, die erste Target, und der Rest, der Rest, der Nene Toothpaste-Team. So, wenn Liggeddon geht, das sollte in ein paar Shots sein können, kann er direkt an den nächsten Target und etwas anderes mit seinem Hick-Point.

03:05:00 Ja, die Gettin ist jetzt einfach nur in 10% Struktur, 5% und es ist weg. Mit dem, die Prophecy Navy ist etwa halb, aber ich glaube, dass sie nicht werden können. Ja, sicherlich. Mit dem Arbitrator ist der Wahl, wie ein E-Wall Cruiser.

03:05:25 It's more about denying damage than applying a lot of damage. The drones of the Orbitrator aren't exactly a very strong damage option. It still adds up, but the damage of Nana Toothpasteam is likely not enough to make meaningful progress here anymore. The Geddon's heavy drones not being able to contribute anymore are going to...

03:05:52 Effectively remove most of the damage left on the team. We now see the Execra going down mostly from drones, I think. But presumably that Abaddon is also shooting at it a little bit.

03:06:09 Ja, die Abadant certainly hätte die Range für das. Even wenn es mit Pulse-Lasers ist, sie können auch weit entfernen. Das ist warum die Abadant ist so ein Popular-Ship in diesem Format. Sie sitzen in der Mitte der Arena, und es hat es ein bisschen in die Richtung, und kann es noch nicht mehr tun, um die Abadant zu den Abadant. Looks like es war eigentlich nur die Prophecy Navy, aber jetzt die Abadant hat sich in die Range.

03:06:36 And it is hoping to finish that off. We also see the carries now from Nanite Toothpaste taking quite a lot of damage. It will go down shortly. Unfortunately for them, that carries just wasn't effective enough because they were able to get on top of that Geddon.

03:06:56 Ja, wir sehen die Charis in der Execure now, die Dipping mehr oder weniger am Ende. Execure down, Charis will shortly follow. And I don't think you can in this format, that you can do a lot of progress, when you lose your battleship, and don't have made some progress in the at least lower end of your opponent.

03:07:21 We see them trying to take out the Augur now, going for an incredibly late Logitrade, but I don't think that it's going to happen. Yeah, I guess the Imperial Navy Police Issue skin of the Prophet's Navy Issue played its part again. There must have been some morale high in the aggressively mid-tier team here. It certainly helps.

03:07:50 And now the Magus goes down, removing what links were left, leaving simply a Prophecy Navy and an Arbitrator against the full team. And it looks like I may have been a little bit early there. The Augur is kind of slowly going down here. One has to wonder if shooting the Augur earlier wouldn't have been a better play. Yeah, indeed. It seems like that would have been a good choice to kill it before the Prophecy Navy.

03:08:18 Aber auch die Positionierung war ein Problem. Der Phobos war noch in den Weg, so sie konnte nicht mehr in die Position des Augurs. Er war auch sehr gut hinter dem Fobos, als man sollte, als T-1 Logi. Und jetzt sehen wir die Arbitrator, um zu drop, leaving einfach die Prophecy Navy gegen die gesamte Team, UNLESS erhältlich.

03:08:47 i can't imagine that he's successful not by himself yeah the medium armor bots are now on the augura and they are probably wrapping enough to keep it alive against the damage of a processed navy issue that also is tackled in the back line so that auger will just keep pulling range and live heavily ever after i would say

03:09:13 Ja, und wir sehen, dass alle in den Abaddon gegründet sind, wahrscheinlich Konflag range da. Und Prophecy Navy geht um. Und mit dem, wir senden es zurück zu den Analyst Desk, wo ich nicht mehr sein will, als Baza ist hier zu sprechen.

03:10:23 Rainbow includes four, mate. I've got, I've got f***ing Lader, I've got a Galente and I've got an MR, and I've got an extra slot. Did you seriously want to know if you need a prop mod? I have f***ing six mids! Alright, we are back with...

03:10:48 Honestly, I was a little confused by that match. I did like it. But we are joined by Baza, the Basilisk. Hello. You know, I heard in back channels that you were going to tsk tsk me. Yeah, I haven't forgotten about you not voting for us, but that's okay. I wouldn't blame you based on what we did earlier.

03:11:12 You know, I... I can't... I can't... There's too many people that I'm like, I can't vote for you everybody, dang it! But, uh... So, Fear, why are...

03:11:30 Not seeing two E-War ships with Octo in this point. Well, you can also make the argument that they had three E-War ships because they had this Geddon and it was full Newt, so just a drone Geddon. Realistically, the thing is, the smaller the format gets, the more valuable individual E-War modules can be because you cover a higher percentage of the enemy team, but the less valuable...

03:11:57 So, as we see...

03:12:26 Und wenn sie einfach nur in und tun, wie BVP sagt, dass sie alle sollen auf Gunspam machen, ist, dass sie einfach nur einen DPS werden, wenn sie einfach nur 1.5 mehr DPS werden. So viele Teams, glaube ich, versuchen, das Duel E-War setup zu machen, oder das Triple E-War setup zu machen. Und ich sehe, wo sie sind, weil ich glaube, gegen...

03:12:50 Pilots that are unable to make the call to move in, or if you make better positioning moves or better screening moves, it might be enough to tip a match in your favor, but it does make it a lot harder to pilot and the burden of execution is much higher than just a standard Octo.

03:13:09 I will definitely say, well played to Aggressively Midtier, also known as Rote Capel. Brett Thomas Thomas asking in chat, where do I donate? There should be a charity link up there. That is where, if you want to donate for the Charity Cup, at this point, we have reached the full goal.

03:13:33 Honestly, I'd like to see how far we can take this and how far we can get this. The Eve community is very generous in charity matters and supporting our own, supporting our people, and the best ship is friendship. I will just say thank you to everybody who has taken the time to donate that. As it's been stressed, this is close to quite a few people on Productions' hearts.

03:14:02 ...having seen needs for it in their personal lives. But, moving away from that, Baza, as somebody who flies in this format, what's your favorite rule? What's my favorite rule? Well, the arena's ready, so I gotta make it quick. Based on having just beat Odin, my favorite rule is that the Tholos is allowed. That's a great ship.

03:14:32 And with that we will throw it over to commentators who hopefully they will give you a little rundown on the band. But we have Tempest Calcif versus Galente Police Department and this is an Elim match!

03:14:51 Hello and welcome to the arena. We have the Galente Police Department here in blue, bringing something very interesting, it seems. Kuruk Aronok in an Abaddon, but with an Osprey Lodgy. So might it be in the infamous Shield Abaddon?

03:15:10 I think it's going to have to be. And very interesting, too, to see the Galente showing up in a shield comp, and the Kaldari showing up in an armor comp comedy. Indeed, Tantalus Kossif in red here, usually found on Kaldari Faction Warfare, as far as I know. And now we see the match going in, and...

03:15:37 The VEDMAC, not to be known as one of the most tankiest ships, rushing into the Galante Police Department team, going for the tackle. Phantasm walking straight past it, now turning around. Phantasm realized it should probably tackle that VEDMAC. That said, they managed to lose their E-War forget there very quickly, trying to trade for that Kitsune. Not happening. Now trying to trade for the VEDMAC. And we'll see if they're able to punch through it.

03:16:06 As you mentioned, Vedmack, not the tankiest ship around. Yeah, but so might be the shield Abaddon. It's already out of shield and going into armor now. I mean, it's better tanked for armor, but it probably won't have much armor tank given it's a shield tank. I'm confused. And with that shield not having mid slots, that Vedmack looks like it has now managed to get in orbit around the Abaddon. It is not tracking. And the Abaddon out of shields and armor.

03:16:34 Yeah, it seems like the Glenda Police Department is losing their... I might have spoken to Soli, and the Abaddon is pulling back shield. Meanwhile, Templis Corsif taking a lot of damage on the Apocalypse. Yeah, it looks like they realized they could not hit that VEDMAC. They're now trying to trade for the APOC, but I think it is too little too late as the Abaddon is now down. The APOC is still in now...

03:17:03 2 3rds, almost half armor, and rapidly gaining it back. Yeah, der Pocket took a lot of damage there, but now the Kitsune gems might have hit, and the damage midfall fallen off, giving the Executor of Curtis, Beradan, a bit more time to pump out those reps and get them on Devon, and now he's very healthy again.

03:17:25 They do finally take out that Kitsune, removing that jam pressure, but far too little too late, I think, here for the Galente Police Department. Ferox maybe trying to take, but simply unable to break anything here. Yeah, that's not just too much damage for Osprey to wrap. We've got three damage chips on Grid, or hitting very well into the shield resists of her.

03:17:53 Ferox Navy also very easy to track the chip. So I like the target calling here from Tempest Corsif. But yeah, the front has been also quite in the whole brawl, but doesn't seem to have much of an effect at the moment.

03:18:15 Ja, die VEDMAC taking some damage here, but again, just simply not enough. The Phantasm trying to put damage on it. Yeah, but the Ferox recovering a bit. The Osprey might have gone in a bit too far, and now the Osprey is taking the heat. And it doesn't look like... Oh, well, he's running again, but I don't think the Osprey... Oh, that was the armor.

03:18:43 und nur einen zweiten Schott. Und das war der Hull. Und da geht's der Logie. Ja, das Apok hat eine große Vorteile, und das ist Range, macht es sehr, sehr schwer für die Osprey zu run away von der Apok's damage.

03:19:03 Ja, ich bin ehrlich, ich war sehr skeptisch, dass das Wettmech in sehr stark ist, aber so far ist es für Templis Calcif. Und ja, wir arbeiten jetzt auf das letzte Schild der Ferrox-Navy-Issue von Cypher. Er ist noch ein bisschen boost, aber ich glaube nicht, dass er noch länger kann, als er in Armour ist, und bald wird er in Hull. Und dann...

03:19:29 There is little damage left here on the police department side. Yeah, Chad not able to pour billions into his Phantasm fitting here. And so it will not, I believe, be tanking the entire enemy team. Yep, especially without any Osprey to sling some reps over.

03:19:56 Aber das Wettbewerb sieht, dass die Wettbewerb verloren hat. Die Fantasen ist nicht bekannt für eine Micro-Op-Drive-FIT. Sie kann den SIG-TANKen sehr gut mit einem Afterburner. Aber die Abadon und die Wettbewerb und die Harbing-Navie ist nicht so gut. Und es ist down.

03:20:22 We now only have the jackdahl left. And now it is gone. And with that, we will send this back to the analyst desk for them to talk about how that match went. Stop being casual. They're really bad. We should not lose anybody to this. Warp off. Warp off. Take the fleet warp. Everybody warp off. This is a really, really bad execution. I'm very disappointed.

03:21:04 Crush our enemies. Your damms are completely dammed out. Crush. I'm dammed out, I'm dammed out. Get out of my chambers, boys. Heat your hips. Yeah. Everything down. I've not been able to look this into the game. I'm jammed.

03:21:43 And we are back from that Elim match where Temp-lis Kalsif decided to take the Galente Police Department out of the running. So with that, that shield abaddon, Baza.

03:22:10 It keeps showing up. I heard you guys talk about it a little bit earlier, and it's a shame I didn't get her in time to warn Chad of the dangers of the Shield Abaddon, but I don't like it. I don't like it because you don't really gain much from it. I mean, if you're fielding an Abaddon as a battleship, you want it to be a DPS ship anyway, right? And it kind of suffers from having too many low slots, and that sounds crazy, but if you're fielding an Armour Abaddon, you're fitting...

03:22:33 2-3 Heatsinks to it anyway. So when you field a Shield of Battling, you're not actually gaining that much DPS. And obviously the tank is so much worse. So I would just generally advise against it. I think it's not showing its worth. And if you want to run a Shield Battleship, run a Rock or even a Megatron. You can actually ignore the Shield tank entirely and fit a whole tank Megatron and do basically the same thing. You're not going to catch reps. You just MJD away. You've got decent tracking, as decent tracking as Rails can be. Decent DPS.

03:22:59 Und es endet einfach besser als die Shield of Badom. Ich denke, ich denke, dass ich mit der Shield of Badom überhaupt nicht wirklich funktioniert. Ja, als jemand ein Fan von Hull-Taking-Things... Ich kann das sehen, dass das ein bisschen mehr Viable ist, vielleicht. So, Fear! Das Vedmack! Das war kind of insane! Und ich liebe die Faktin, dass es einfach nur so gut geht, und dann einfach nur ranne mit.

03:23:28 Ja, das ist die zweite Mal gesehen, die VEDMAC heute gesehen haben. Das ist die zweite Mal gesehen, die VEDMAC heute gesehen haben, und es ist die erste Mal, oder die zweite Mal, es hat gewonnen. In der ersten Mal gesehen, wir sahen es 1v1 und solo killen a Hick in 1v1 in der Arena und dann kommen zurück in und machen die VEDMAC, aber ich glaube, die VEDMAC in particular ist gut, wo viele Teams sind für Hicks.

03:23:55 Und natürlich für Schockta, ich gehe für die Phantasm. Aber die Sache ist, die VEDMAC macht mehr damage als Hex, except für eine Ham Onyx. Und als результат von so viel damage ist, es hat die Abilität zu gewinnen, diese Margin, wo man 6v6 Format hat, wie viel GPS als möglich, auf einem bestimmten Ship.

03:24:17 for a given projection profile, generally will be more optimal, especially if you have tracking that's as good as Entropic Disintegrators, right? And they banned out the carries in the Sentinel, right? And the other team banned out the Crucifier Arbitrator Sentinel. So with no tracking disruption in the game, that just makes it so much easier for the Vedmac to do what it needs to do, because now you have no threat of your optimal range, of your range being taken down.

03:24:47 Becoming Nothing, right? So, it has more stock there, and just being able to do more damage than the enemy ship in that same position, while having similar engagement profiles, just, I think, pushes it over the top into the ship that I think we're going to see more of as the tournament goes on, especially when people think that they're going to go into these kind of Octo-Shocto-type Mir matches.

03:25:13 The other thing with the VEDMAC is it provides explosive damage, which isn't something that's particularly common in this kind of meta. So there may be sort of a bit of counter meta going on there where people are leaving explosive holes a little bit open.

03:25:26 That's very true, they may not expect a FedMac, but maybe tomorrow we'll see. I don't know, anything can happen. Next up we have Neglect Emotionally and No Victories. Neglect Emotionally is representing the Abyssal Brickrollers. And then, goodness, No Victories is representing No Vacancies. So these...

03:25:57 So, we've got Damps. We've got... It looks like a little bit of jamming going on here in the bands. Baza, what...

03:26:23 Would this say that they might have a potential what they're trying to avoid?

03:26:29 It's an unusual set. It's not often that we see the arbitrator ban instead of the Crucifier, because they share the same spot. So neglect emotionally playing some little mind game that I can't immediately read by leaving the Crucifier open. And of course, in terms of tracking disruption potential, the Sentinel and the Cruci basically do the same thing. Obviously, Sentinel has slightly more resist, has the new bonus, but in terms of pure tracking disruption, it offers the same as the Crucifier. But leaving the Crucifier open, a little bit interesting. On the other side, Kerry's Morlus, Tholos, those are pretty standard. I mean, the two Ewor damp frigates.

03:26:58 und die Tholos nicht wollen. Das kann passieren. Aber es ist ein bisschen schwer zu wissen, was Neglect Emotion zu tun ist. Und niemand will mit RNG, Scorpion, Tomfoolery.

03:27:14 I mean, what you call tomfoolery, I would call it as having a fun time, but I am an E-War enthusiast. So, we'll go with that. But Fear, with these two teams being so close, they're within a 10% so far in chat's points, who are you predicting is going to win?

03:27:39 I think it has to be neglect emotionally. Lest you forget, these are players that have been on quite a few very good teams, including Barcode, which has made some very deep runs, right? So I think that...

03:27:53 Sie haben eine gute Show für sie dieses Tournament gemacht. Sie sind natürlich sehr gut in Feeders und jetzt 1-0 in ihren Gruppen. Aber das ist ein Team, die Traditionell hat nicht super gut gemacht, rarely machte tournaments. Occasionally scrapes sie an den Bottom. Ich freue mich, ob sie können etwas und ein Upset machen. Aber ich würde definitiv haben, mit Neglect Emotionally.

03:28:19 Of course. And as the teams are loading in, Bazaar, I'm going to take your prediction very quickly as well. Who are you going to throw points on? I think this could be basically even. It depends on... I mean, I could see NoVictories doing something sneaky here, where they ban Kerry's Morlos and bring a Celestis. That's an option here. I think NoVictories, Novak is a team that's kind of stuck together for a couple years now, and they've definitely been improving year by year. So they definitely have a realistic chance here if they get a good meta read on this matchup.

03:28:49 Fantastic. And so with a 10% difference between both of these teams, I'm going to go ahead and throw it to the Arena and the commentators to go ahead and get this match started.

03:29:04 Hello and welcome back to the Arena. We have both teams seemingly going for a kite setup here. Both in armor setups again, as we have seen is very popular here. But we have basically guns versus missiles mostly.

03:29:22 Ja, both going with Armor, with the Typhoon team going with an Exector for that little bit of extra speed. Notably, as called out, correctly predicting, I suspect, by seeing the field, a Celestis showing up, which does leave that team with very little damage overall. Typhoon and Cyclone Fleet can run away and they can put damage on from range, but they can't do that much of it from range.

03:29:49 We will see if it's enough to break something under the augure wraps of neglect emotionally here. So far, the timer just started now.

03:30:01 30 seconds until we find out how this match is going to play out. Yeah, it'll be interesting with that Crucifier as well. Both can they keep it alive and did they actually bring TDs and not GDs? Yeah, good call. They didn't bring the, or couldn't bring the Sentinel. That was banned. But yeah, now the Crucifier instead with the T1 resists. I mean, it's still a frigate.

03:30:26 Es ist nicht der größte Schip, aber T-1 Resists sind sicherlich nicht so stark.

03:30:36 We see them going for the Execurer first, after all, ignoring that Crucifier entirely as Damps and TDs go across the field trying to reduce that damage on the Exec, trying to keep it alive, while they're looking to trade for that Augur. Yeah, the LogiBots are out, even Heavy Maintenance Bots on the Execurer of Betters and Dalofs. And as we could expect it,

03:31:04 Neglect Emotionally team burning in to get closer with their guns and to get into range. Meanwhile, no victories, kiting away.

03:31:15 Yep, Phobos and Hyena both trying to go in, trying to control the range here, trying to lock down this kiting team. They can do it. The Hyena pressured off, retreating to get some reps away from those missiles. Phobos still going in though, and not that fast, but closing.

03:31:38 Ja, wir sehen...

03:32:01 This Phobos really struggling to get on top of anything, trying to get that tackle. The Kyena once again going out forward, trying to push forward, maybe grab this Crucifier here. It's very close to that, the Crucifier in a rather unfortunate position, and paying for it by exploding. Now, that said, the Augur now in very low armor.

03:32:26 He is now turning, though, coming back in. The Augur has gone down, but the Executor is shortly to follow, leaving both sides without Logi. The Hyena very low.

03:32:54 Almost certainly to go down. That'll bring off a lot of pressure off of this kiting team. Interesting damage race now. And you can see people just dropped the Logibots, and now there are more damage drones out there. Celeste is now going down, removing those damps, which will mean that there's no more E-War preventing the red team here from pressuring the hostile team, meaning that ranges are actually fairly similar at that point.

03:33:24 Ja, true. No Evo on Grid anymore. The Magus is also taking quite some damage here. No Victories would have a bit more links here, so maybe that's an advantage of the longer run. Important to note here, now that the Logis are dead, all damage that will be applied will stick.

03:33:46 Das ist sehr schwierig, hier zu leben. Wir sehen, das Cyclone Fleet, sehr vieles zu tun. Es ist wahrscheinlich nicht genug, unter der Gunpress von Hyperion, Harbinger Navy und Phobos.

03:34:16 The Pontifex going for a more or less desperate attempt to scram something. Cancel that, I was looking from the wrong angle there.

03:34:27 And now the Cyclone Fleet down, Phobos in half armor. Again, no one's getting reps here, but with Harbinger Navy and Hyperion up against this Typhoon, certainly with the range to hit the Typhoon, this is going to be a struggle to claw this back at this point. Yeah, it seems like the Typhoon in his Hyperion is focusing on trans-matching without the prop mod at the moment.

03:34:56 So he can hit that Typhoon of Pui to 20 Fliber much better. Typhoon looks like it's running for an MJD, hoping to get away. The Typhoon does have more range than the Hyperion, but not by a lot. And the Hyperion certainly has more local tank.

03:35:15 Ja, und die Typhoon muss die Phobos und die Harbinger-Navie hier, um, um, zu gehen, um, und dann die Pontifex, um, das ist es, um, auf Points. Ja, Pontifex versucht es, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien, um, zu schreien.

03:35:44 And it is slowly getting closer to this typhoon, though it seems to have stopped for some reason almost. Possibly burnt its prop.

03:35:56 A Typhoon. Very nice. But still well within range of that Hyperion. And possibly has outranged itself out of the Phobos. Allowing that Phobos to live. And notably the Pontifex paying for that scram work. Paying for that screening. And slowly dying. The Harbinger didn't seem to have any tackle modules. Has some limited mid slots to do that.

03:36:25 Even the drones do the work on the Pontifex now, and he's going down. Without Logi, a destroyer is just not to survive in an arena with so much guns tracking it. Yep. The Typhoon nearly dead now. It's Anso run out of charges almost certainly by now. It is running to another MJD unit trying to desperately stay alive, but as it touches structure...

03:36:52 I don't think that there is enough time for it to successfully turn an MJD without going out of the arena. No, it might get off one more MJD, but I kind of doubt it has any chance of killing much more in this grid. We also have heavy arm momentum spots on the Phobos at the moment from the Hyperion probably keeping it alive. And yeah, the Typhoon made a valiant attempt here to kite it out, but...

03:37:20 No Victories goes home with No Victories, at least in this match. And with that, we will send it back to the desk to talk about that fairly interesting match.

03:38:24 Also includes four, mate. I've got, I've got f***ing Lader, I've got a Galente and I've got an MR, and I've got an extra slot. Did you seriously want to know if you need a prop mod? I have f***ing six mids!

03:38:43 All righty. And with that upset, we are back. We had Novak beating Test in their match, which is how they got here. But in this... Oh, this is not... In this non-elimination match, because it is not an elimination match, let's...

03:39:08 I'm gonna throw this to Baza. Ewor, cruisers, and frigates not having the best track record. Can you kind of go through that a little bit? Well, I thought what Novak did there was actually pretty okay. I mean, I correctly, not just to toot my own horn, I predicted the Celestis pick. I don't have a commentator account on Grid at the moment. But what they needed to do there is protect the Crucifier, and I see now what boundary experts are.

03:39:37 So it was actually a nice meta-read from boundary experts. But that kind of, to come back to your question, there's sort of two E-War comp.

03:40:05 Ich denke, es betrifft sehr viel auf den E-War-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf-Auf

03:40:25 Und Fear, in diesem 6v6, wo du musst du einen Limit haben, musst du deine Entscheidungen machen. Mit den 2 E-War, oder mit den 2 E-War, oder mit den 2 E-War, oder mit den 2 E-War, wir haben nur wirklich gesehen ein paar, wenn die Gruppe es gut ist. Aber wir werden sie versuchen es. Was sind deine Gedanken auf das?

03:40:50 I just don't think that you want to take... I think the correct way, if you're going to bring two E warships, is to do, like we saw in feeders, have a double jam comp with a scorpion or something. Or have a armor drone control comp, which we've seen a couple times, with like, you know, you have something like in Armageddon, which has this long range newts, but also has drone damage, and then you have a bunch of other...

03:41:19 Ships that are going to do drone damage and then you have some sort of control frigate, right? But in these particular setups, we're seeing, again, as Beza and I've mentioned before, this trade for utility when we're in kind of a stat sticky meta. As we already said, right, when Octo is particularly good, that's typically, you know, kind of the ultimate form of that is we have a ship that lets our ships apply to things and everything else is just kind of, we're going to...

03:41:48 Also, I know like no vacancies, right? This is kind of one of the few tournaments they've made the main dance. So they are doing quite well for themselves based on their usual stuff. But the team that is probably made up of, I think, barcode members and a couple other of those tournament pedigree type.

03:42:18 Losak groups. Definitely had the better flying and had this really interesting read by taking this hyena, as I mentioned, banning the sentinel but not the crucifier. Yeah, that...

03:42:32 Super, super interesting. Just going through and watching that last match. Next up though, we do have Deteriorated versus Velociraptors. Velociraptors is Test! Who Novak beat to get through here as well. Anyway.

03:43:02 But you also have Deteriorated, and Deteriorated is, well, representing themselves. Between these two groups, which one has, I don't want to say the better pedigree, but more of a pedigree in AT-style or multiple tournament-style groups, Baza?

03:43:25 Well, they're kind of polar opposites, because Tests have been entering for years and have never done very well, whereas Deteriorated entered AT for the first time last year and actually finished, I think it was top 8. So they've come out of nowhere and hit us with a storm. So I think Deteriorated would definitely be favoured here. They've got a tight bunch of guys, and they've shown some real competence so far, so I'm backing them for this one for sure.

03:43:48 I mean, honestly, that's where I put my points. We'll see. Fear, where are you throwing your points? I already see them on the grid, so I'm not throwing my points anywhere, but I would definitely go with deteriorated here. I had a good showing last year in AT, and test is test. That's the way I put it. Fair enough. Deteriorated.

03:44:10 Deteriorated, we have the bans of an Armageddon, Tholos, and Sentinel. Velociraptors, we have Roke, Abaddon, Sentinel, so double Sentinel ban. We have three battleship bans. Quickly, and I'll throw this back to Fear, since you didn't put your points anywhere, really, but what do these bans say in a snapshot before we send it to the arena?

03:44:34 I mean, I think every single one of these ships has been seeing a lot of priority this time, so they're just kind of generally good bans. Fantastic. I hope we see a nice, good match from these two teams. It does look like they have landed in the arena, and let's go ahead and throw it over to the commentary side.

03:45:03 All right, welcome back to the arena, where we see Relativpastors, also known as Test against Deteriorated. Deteriorated in red, Relativpastors in blue, and very classic SHIELD comps again facing off against each other. Yeah, we see Apocalypse mirrors this time. An interesting changeup from the Abada mirrors we've been seeing all day.

03:45:32 We need another difference in the Augur on the Exegra. The Augur known for a bit more of a rep output. The Exegra known for being a bit more faster. And both teams launching the rep plots, expecting some range sniping on the Evo for what's going on. And that's what we saw. Yeah, one carries down already. The other one looks like it's managed to get its transversal up and has caught, but quickly moving on to hitting the Augur.

03:46:01 für das Team. Ja, das Charis-Pilot ist, die Last Name mit einem sehr famous AT-Pilot. Ich weiß nicht, ob das das Intentional ist oder nicht, aber ja, er hält das Transversal gut und ist über die Werte der Werte der Exekreuer.

03:46:22 We see Augur taking quite a bit of damage now. Without that, it carries up to reduce the DPS on it. It's got really nothing but running away to do, and running away isn't that effective. Yeah, meanwhile, it deteriorated pushing in with the DPS ships, getting into range, and punishing all this team of those busters there.

03:46:55 Seems like most of the damage is on the Devoter at the moment, but the repbot's keeping it up at the moment. The Phobos, kind of out of position here, very long ways away from its reps, and they're trying to capitalize on that by pushing it and punishing it for being out that far. It is burning in, and the Exec is also burning into it.

03:47:18 But it might be too little too late, as it's just about hitting Structure here. And an MJD from the Apocalypse of Ku Kappa getting in behind the team here and actually really getting some damage on them. Austin is going to get hit very hard here by the Apocalypse and is dipping into Structure already.

03:47:42 Meanwhile, the Beltsbusters had focused on that Phobos a bit too much and probably missed that MJD play here. Very nice. Now that Augur down, the Phobos managed to make it back to friendly lines out of damage and into rep range and is living. Now back up at almost half or maybe beyond half armor.

03:48:06 Ja, und der Phobos ist gut und gut jetzt. Aber die Exeggüter ist jetzt noch ein paar damage. Die Buster hat noch ein paar damage auf dem Grid. Ich bin nicht sicher, ob sie kann es funktionieren. Ja, all der damage ist still up. Sie haben ihre Logi, sie haben E-War, aber sie haben alle die damage potentialen, dass sie mit angefangen haben, wirklich. So, wenn sie das able to tackle, und es sieht, dass der Voter hat die Exegg tackled.

03:48:34 Still making pretty decent speed, though. So probably an afterburner on that exec, pulling away from the Devoter here. Yeah, it's going over 700 meters a second. That's definitely an afterburner doing its job there. And now it's speeding up again, so it's a dual prop fit. It seems very versatile, of course. That would be difficult to do on an Augur, with only two mid slots.

03:49:02 Aber der Exeggert gibt es dir das Flexibilität. Ja, absolut. Die Reise zu bringen die Exegg über die Aug, obwohl die Aug kann mehr rep werden. Die Exegg staying alive und putting out Reps über die ganze Match ist sicherlich sehr wertvoll. Still taking some damage, aber gleichzeitig die Hostile Apocalypse hier ist einfach nur unter half-Armor und wahrscheinlich nicht viel mehr für das Welt, als das Augur ist, in fact, Ed.

03:49:34 Ja, ich wundere, ob Valenzipastos hatte den Gelegenheit und den Phobos hatte, wenn es aus der Position war. Ich denke, dass er eine gute Chance hat, weil der Executorer war in der Backline. Busy keeping seine Charis alive. Ja, Sie sehen, dass der Executorer ist, dass der Executorer ist, und er hat sich seltsam, den Rest der Team von

03:50:02 Deteriorated, took quite some damage. But now the executor just casually burns back in and pumps out wraps again and keeps that Megaset focus alive again. Yeah, we see...

03:50:17 The APOC going down, leaving just the Prophecy Navy and Devoter both struggling very hard to apply serious damage to anything in particular. The Phobos has fantastic Thermal Resist, making it hard to do with the T2, but it doesn't seem like they feel like they can push through anything else anyways. And without the Apocalypse here to provide that damage, I don't see them...

03:50:43 und wirklich auch einfach zu snipe auf etwas wie die Magus oder Exec.

03:50:49 Ja, mit der aktuellen Meta, wo viele Laser-Ships sind predominant und Drell-Guns sind, ich weiß nicht, ob einige Teams die RISK auf ihre Galante 82-Holle und nicht die Explosive-Holle, die sie haben da. So etwas wie Auto-Cannons wäre, wäre ein sehr schwieriger Gegner für sie. Aber wie Sie sehen, Lasers können sehr gut werden. Aber wie ich sage, die Ex-Secure sind sehr tief in die Armour.

03:51:17 I mean, notably the Exector T1 and not T2, so it doesn't quite have that special resist that the Phobos does. That said, as it's dipping low, the Prophecy Navy is even lower in structure and will drop first. The Magus now going low, so maybe they do manage to grab one sort of... They do! Not getting quite completely swiped, completely clean wipe.

03:51:43 Hier, die Magus goes down. Aber mit nur dem Devoter und Magus left, da ist wirklich nicht mehr mehr zu tun.

03:51:52 Ja, eine für den Battle Report. Aber ja, ich dachte, ob der Exekurier hat sich nicht aus den Kapp Charges gescheitert. Das kann auch eine Sache sein, besonders wenn man zwei kleine Kapp Boosters auf den Exekurier hat, wie Sie oft machen. Und über einen langen Matchen wie dieser, das kann auch passieren. Das kann auch passieren. Dann, manchmal, man muss sich die Kapp Charges von einem anderen Schiff, wie Magus, zum Beispiel.

03:52:20 ...which you pick up with the Logi-Ship. But, yeah. Deteriorant and just playing it rather safe here. And, well, the Karas should get back to his Logi now. Maybe I thought it's a bit too safe, but the Magus drone's actually hitting it quite good. Yeah, but the Exact now well within range and applying those reps. The Magus slowly dying. Actually, not that slowly.

03:52:47 Dropping into Structure now. And it's gone. And that will be that for this match. And we'll send it back to the desk to talk about it.

03:53:16 Farmer's Bar could be anywhere.

03:54:03 Alright, and with that match, velociraptors have been turned into oil by Deteriorated. Goodness, they, you could say, their bones got shredded. But it was a good chance by test, or a good try, rather, by test. And, uh...

03:54:32 Mit E-War, Frigg's und Armour Reps landen am Ende, Baza, kannst du mir eine kurze snippet? Ja, so, especially if you're opting into these kind of mirrors, which both these teams did, you need to make sure you can A, win the Damp War, and B, keep your E-War Friggates alive, and the advantage that you have

03:55:01 Potentially, if you choose to fit accordingly, is to fit small reps rather than mediums. So armor reps land at the end of the cycle. And one of the main advantages of fitting smalls over mediums, which you may wish to do on your Exekuror, and indeed on your Augur as well, is that they take only three seconds to cycle rather than six. So if your frigate suddenly needs reps, you can get those reps on them three seconds earlier, which can be a big deal between your carries living and dying. And as we saw in that match, once your carries dies and the opponent's carries are still alive, you're in big trouble.

03:55:29 Das war wirklich gut. Sie wussten genau wie die Comp. Sie wussten die Carries zuerst. Als die Augura wurde ausgerüstet, Q-Kappa hit der M-J-D-Button. Perfect timing, perfect direction. Back in range, auf die Augura, Breakthrough, und von da ist es Plane Sailing.

03:55:46 Und das war super super super super. Das war eine fun match zu sehen. Es sieht aus, dass es Schrimps is Bugs vs. Gampima. Schrimps is Bugs banning the Carys, Mollus, and Tholos. Gampima banning the Carys, Sentinel, and Tholos. So we're seeing double Tholos bans. And double Carys bans. Fear

03:56:15 Just, again, real quick thoughts on this before we are moving forward? I mean, we're just seeing, again, Bandsword Zwerp Frigates. We've seen this for the last couple tournaments. I mean, in this particular instance, they've been pretty much the most common type of frigate being taken in that last position 6 slot. So, you know, one team does Maul, the other team does Sentinel.

03:56:40 So Cruisefire is the only one that's available other than the Hyena Vigil. And then Tholas being banned because neither team wants to be rushed. So pretty standard out of everything. I'm interested to see how this match actually goes because Shrimps' Bugs, I think it's predominantly THL slash Hydra type players and maybe some other...

03:57:02 Tournament favorites, but Gampiyama is hole control, if I remember correctly. They've got Geeta, Jace Rowland. Probably have Te Able won on there somewhere as well, but I couldn't see it in their roster sheet because our sheets were a little bit wrong. So it should be an interesting match.

03:57:20 Honestly, I will say the ad war that has been going on with Shrimps' Bugs in the Discord has been slightly legendary. It's been great watching all of the ads that they come up with. I mean, I really wish that we could show everybody, but...

03:57:47 Maybe this week I'll play it on my channel. Oh god, no. I absolutely love the fact that the ads are having an absolute part of this. Basilisk, do you think this is helping Murat? What are these ads doing? I don't know. It's just fun for everyone, isn't it? I mean, Gampumar had a great ad as well where they actually mocked themselves for losing. I have no idea what it was about.

03:58:16 Some guy pouring some stuff into a toilet, or maybe that was last year. Both these teams are coming up strong with the ad game. If you hop on the Charity Cup Discord, you'll be able to scroll up in general chat and find them. But some great contributions for both teams. Both these teams, actually teams that I'm quite close to, I've scrimmed against both of them. I know a bunch of them. I think Gampum actually has Nick DeMar on their team, who is just going to give him a shout out, as I always do, taught me the game. And I think he might actually be the highest MMR player in the tournament.

03:58:43 Oh, wow.

03:58:47 You know, it's very, very close right now. 51-49. Other than the 50-50 match with Baby Carrots, I think this might be the... Now it is 50-50. But I think this will be a very balanced match given the pedigree of the people on this team. On both teams, rather. But with that, it does look like they have landed...

03:59:16 in the arena. So let's go ahead and throw it over to commentary.

03:59:28 Hello, everyone, and welcome to the arena. We have Shrimps' Bugs versus Gampina. They've been fighting a meme war, but now they have to fight a spaceship's war. Shrimps' Bugs showed up with some S.H.I.E.L.D. missile ships, and I'm just taking a look at these, and it looks like this is a S.H.I.E.L.D. kite. I'm seeing what looks like the single point of the cruise missile on the Raven. Greybill, what has Gampina brought?

03:59:53 Klima brought a Dominix for Battleship. I think that's one of the first we see in this tournament. Alongside with all classic Prophecy Navy issue, Red Mech, Pontifex Hyena, and an Exekora for reps.

04:00:09 This Dominix looks to be a full newt and on my screen bright pink. Very beautiful Dominix here. So it'll be very interesting to see whether the control from Gumpima, which will require them to get a little bit closer, is going to work versus the Shrimps is Bugs kite.

04:00:35 We are underway with Shrimps as Bugs predictably moving along the arena, and Gompima just as predictably sort of scattering and getting ready to intercept. I notice that this Dominix has dropped sentry, so these sentry drones are going to be able to reach out and hit at range. It looks like they're targeting the Zale, the Shrimp as Bugs hyena first. That's a good choice because the webs...

04:00:58 und die Targetpaints sind sehr wichtig für die Shield-Kite. Die Executoren von Jace Roland ist auch noch etwas Dammage. Das Logi ist sehr wichtig für diese Gompse. Ja, aber auch die Hina of Sail ist sehr nahe zu den Dominiks, also getting neutered hier, aber auch, crucially, getting mehr oder weniger unter den Gunn der Sentry-Drones. Und, indeed, Cheetah in den Dominiks hat das und hat bereits die Heavy-Drones gesehen.

04:01:26 Now heavy berserkers going out and shooting or hitting Zell quite a bit in his hyena. This hyena has tanked for a long time though. Jace Roland and the Execker is in half armor. Well, it looks like Zell, Mandrelis and the hyena is probably going to fall here. This might be an E-War frigate for Logitrade, which we have not seen work out in some other matches.

04:01:49 Ja, aber Sie können sehen, dass die Pontifex von Warr bereits untertitelt Tim Barron und seine Osprey. Sie sind vorbereitet für die Moment, dass diese Hyena geht und stopt, um die Domenik zu verlassen. Sie wollen sie auf die Osprey auf den Osprey, schnell wie sie können.

04:02:06 Das sagt, Jace Rollin' in the Execker falls tackled, Primaried, und blown up. Und es sieht wie Richard Howe in the Vedmack ist zu sein. Es sieht wie Gampima hat, in fact, switched zu Tin Baron in the Osprey. Sie haben ihn tackled, sie werden ihn auskennen, und dann hoffen, dass sie ihn auskennen. Aber im Moment, mit no Loggie auf den Gampima, es ist wirklich nur, wie viel sie kann sie survive versus die DPS? Ja, sie versuchen zu...

04:02:30 Der Rips' Box ist currently trying to clear the Pontifex off of Tin Baron, so he can keep burning and get distance. But it doesn't look like it will work. Tin Baron dipping into the structure. Also the Pontifex as well. But Tin Baron dies as Tin Baron does, and the Pontifex dies as well. Yep, Hyena's shortly to follow. I noticed that the Gempima team is running entirely DPS bots. That makes sense, because they're Dominics.

04:02:58 All the damage from the Dominix is going to be in damage, but it looks like there's additional flights of lights and mediums out there as well. I don't see... Oh, there's some heavy armor maintenance bots running around, but I don't see as many rep bots. It looks like it's mostly Acolytes heading over to chase down, it looks like, Vakes. Meanwhile, Hyena from Gampima taking damage. Prof Navy also taking damage. So...

04:03:24 Remains to be seen, which team is able to leverage their attack bar more in this logifree world? Yeah, maybe, well, Campina doesn't really have a big choice to swap, at least on the Dominics, to swap to Logibots here. But they might need to, because the Prophecy or Navy is of a name I can't pronounce, sorry, is taking quite some damage here and is dipping into low armor here.

04:03:53 Yeah, it looks like there's some Logibots on that Hyena, but as you said, the Prophecy Navy is the much bigger concern. Meanwhile, a stork of Monkey Onlin's being neutered out, some damage going on to the fleet cyclone of Vague's Katsuo, but Gampima here, Shrimps' bugs, they're able to, you can see that attack bar is a little bit more full, they're able to apply more damage, they don't have to worry about tracking or have more flexible ranges. Oh, MCD play off the Dominic's here.

04:04:23 Basically MJD in front of Vex in his Cyclone Fleet issue and cuts off his way there. Oh, that could be big. If he gets caught there by the Heavy Newts and loses his prop mode, that could be a big issue. Even if the Heavy Newts don't get there, there's a flight of Republic Fleet Berserkers that has Vex's location. Now, if they're able to clear the Fleet Cyclone, that'll start catching them up. Then we'll have...

04:04:48 Raven, Onyx, Stork vs. Dominix, Vedmak, Hyena. The Hyena of Sawit is not long for this world. Target painted, tackled, in a whole bunch of trouble. So Gampima is going to need to clear at least one of these other ships, even if they get Vex in the Cyclone Fleet issue down. Yeah, the combined tackle power of the Hyena, the Vedmak, and the Nutes from the Dominix brought down Vex in his Cyclone Fleet issue just now.

04:05:17 Aber der Hyäna hat sich für seine Leben mit dem, und mit der Streicher Rieke in der Onyx noch auf und er hat eine Chance zu screamen hier, für den Raven, von Blumhorfium, das könnte es schwierig sein, um wieder zu holen. Ich weiß nicht, ob die Red Mech oder die Dominiks kann etwas anderes hier catchen.

04:05:40 I think at this point, if I'm the Dominix, I need to switch to Logibots, because the way that Gampima is going to win this is they need to keep both ships alive. The Vedmec, we've seen that spooling damage, be very dangerous and very effective. And if Gampima can kill bugs in the Onix, or...

04:05:59 Blue Morphium and the Raven, then they win. If they kill two, obviously that's a lot better. Meanwhile, the win condition for Shrimps' Bugs is what they showed up to do at the start of the match. They need to kite.

04:06:12 We can see the Onyx making use of its Hick Point. There's no Logi on Grid anyway, so he can just use it. And a long point or a long scram, much more the Wet Mag of Richard Howe here. But he's taking quite some damage in return. I don't know if he's passive fit or active, but he might want to start tanking now if he has an active rep. There it goes. There it goes, yeah, yeah.

04:06:40 So Strikers Tangy, there's some light shield bots, or there's some shield bots still in the field, some medium shield bots, some light shield maintenance bots. They don't look like they're on Strikers right now, but they are still available. Raven has a bay, Stork, I believe, has a drone bay, but none of those are here. Instead, we have the Acolytes from the Vedmac on Strikers. Strikers now running away, let the Vedmac go, and trying to just...

04:07:10 Get away from the dangerous spool of the Triklavian ship. Oh, a very nice MJD from Monkey in his stork here. Basically MJD'd in between his Onix and Raven to apply his links to both of them. That was a nice play. But yeah, you can see the Onix of Striker Riker just pulled range again, so he doesn't get into a new range of the Dominix.

04:07:38 Ja, Richard Hau und die VEDMAC mit einem Schliver des Armour remaining. Wenn die Schrimps-This-Bugs-Team able to clear die VEDMAC, werden sie wahrscheinlich sicherlich sein können. Und jetzt ist es nicht gut für die VEDMAC. Ja, die VEDMAC ist in der Half-Hole jetzt. Und Sie sehen, es war wirklich ein Armour-Tank, das nicht mehr existiert. Und da geht es. Even mit einer nicht so guten Applikation mehr, Sie können sehen.

04:08:07 von der Raven and Onyx, mit ihrer eher large Explosive Velocity, Explosive Radius, excuse me, without the Hyena being on-grid there to support and that or target paint the target. It's a bit hard to apply the damage now, but over time, and with nothing that can stop them, they are still looking good here.

04:08:31 Two minutes remaining, and we've got Geeta versus the world. Unfortunately, the Dominik's not really the most mobile ship, and the projection that the Dominik says available is purely in those sentry drones. Let me just take a look and see if those are firing again. Oh, nice MTD play again. From the Dominik's on to the Raven.

04:08:58 Very nice, very nice. The question is... I might be a little bit too little too late, because Gita's got to kill both the Stork, which is in armor, and the Raven. Stork has MJD'd away, hoping to save his skin. Meanwhile, Pumorphium and the Raisin easily tanking the damage put out by the Dominics.

04:09:20 They are also very close to each other on this MTD beacon. So I don't see a scram effect going off from the Dominix. So if that Dominix can't in fact scram Blue Morphium in his Raven here, he could just align and hope to not get bumped and then just MTD away and be safe again. Even if, I think if I'm Blue Morphium here...

04:09:48 Ich bin nicht zu überrascht. Die Raven kann ein sehr starkes Tank fit. Even durch die Dominiks' Newt's, die Raven likely hat einen Ancillary Shield-Booster, das nicht wirklich braucht Cap. Wir sehen die Newt's, die Grapples, die Drones von den Dominiks. Diese sind Republic Fleet-Berserkers. Das ist nicht genau das Dramatisch-Type. Sie wollen die Bluemorpheum-Shield schießen. Aber es ist besser für die Heves als nicht.

04:10:14 Und Blue Morphium, comfortably tanking, just has to tank for another 12 seconds, 10 seconds, in order to secure this victory with the number of points that they have. And we can see good fights going out in local as the match concludes.

04:10:53 Farmer's Bar could be anywhere.

04:11:35 Alright, and we are back after that lovely matchup.

04:11:43 In which I lost my channel points. I was hoping Shrimps4Bugs would have some fun, but looks... Hey. Oh wait, they won. Oh my god. I'm dumb. I was... I got the Team Switched Up. Gosh darn it, Rose. Alright. Fear. That hyena. Gosh darn it. Talk to me about him.

04:12:12 So, both teams brought the Hyena, and this is something that we saw kind of go up in priority as time went on in the last couple of tournaments. With E-War being, or with Damps and Arbitrator weapon disruption being so prevalent, and also something that you can ban out in this tournament where you ban out two of them, it enables you to have something that will

04:12:41 Ja.

04:12:42 get you to apply better on your ships, right? Either through webs or through bonus paints. So a lot of times for Octo setups or for Shield Octo setups in main tournaments, we saw at least one Hyena, maybe a Vigil, something like that. Or in this case, we saw Missile Kite and we saw Hyena instead of a Hugin, which is something that we saw last year in the AT when Tuskers brought their Armor Missile Kite setup with a Hugin and ended up winning with it, right? So here we see...

04:13:12 Das war die Bonus Paints, und besonders wenn Damp Ships sind aus der Table. Die Hyäne 10MN zipsen in der Arena und nicht sterben, wenn sie etwas getötet sind. Wir sahen eine Hyäne getötet, die andere nicht. Und die Team mit der Hyäne still hatte die Hyäne war perfekt mit ihren Long-Range Missiles und won die match.

04:13:32 Ja, ich meine, es hat definitiv eine definitiv impact. Die Limited Drone Bay auf den Dominiks... mit dem Potenzial... ...of es vielleicht ein Full Newt-Dommy? Baza, was du denkst über das? Ich denke, es ist ziemlich sicher dass es ein Handvoll von Heavy Newts hat. Du kannst auch ein paar Drone Link Augmentars haben, um das Drone-Range zu machen. Ich denke, er hat er...

04:14:01 Ich dachte, ich sah ihn MWD'ing around zu Beginn, wenn er der MJD in den Onyx war, und dann später, er war einfach da, sad, nicht wirklich able zu schießen auf den Onyx mehr. Ja, es ist ein schwerer Situation zu sein, wenn du dein Probierst. Du kannst wirklich nichts mehr tun. Aber zu touchieren, was der Hyena sagte, ich glaube, was...

04:14:24 Schrimps's Bugs made the conscious decision that they were going to ram their Hyena in basically and just get webs on the Exekuro and as long as they hold webs on the Exekuro they can kill it with the missiles and even if they lose the Hyena afterwards that's still a fine trade to do because you've killed the Lodgy and from there you can start to whittle down the rest of the comp. And we've learned that taking out the Lodgy is definitely a strategy to winning in this format.

04:14:52 um next up we have yeet fleet elite wow i can't talk and a rival um yeet fleet elite wow words is a meef and rage quit cancel sub um goodness a rival looks like they are themselves

04:15:15 Going into this, it looks like bands. We have the Baden, the Geddon, and the Tholos. And then from Arrival, we have the Arbitrator, Crucifier, and Sentinel. Quickly, Fear, what are these bands kind of show?

04:15:33 Someone doesn't want to be weapon disrupted. And the other one is just saying we want to take out the optimal shield rush ship as well as the two ships that are quite common in both drone control and the other one in these projection gun spam setups. We are, the arena is now loaded up so I think we should head over to the arena though.

04:15:54 So with that, keep in mind this is an elimination match. So whoever wins this moves forward. And then to the arena we go to our lovely commentators.

04:16:08 Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the Arena for the final match of the day. We have Yeetfleet Elite, who have shown up at zero with a rush, just going to go full send on to Arrival, who have brought a shield kite. Can Arrival run away fast enough, or will Yeetfleet yeet themselves on top of us? Graebel, what do you think? I don't know. Well, that Raptor has a bonus to his micro-warp drive, so if he heats that...

04:16:36 he will be in there very quickly it's only 50 kilometers but he might overshoot it quite hard so i'm gonna see watch that raptor now going in closely followed by the rest of his team

04:16:52 We've got the raptor going in, and notably Arrival doesn't have any webs. There's no hyenas, nothing like that. So the raptor's in, the jackdaw's in, the rest of the team is streaming in, and they've gone straight onto Howling Wind in the augur. So they've got the logi, they've caught it. That means that any future ships that they catch are absolutely going to fall. Meanwhile, Curr Game and the Fleet Cyclones...

04:17:17 Wir sehen, dass die Jackdahl auf die Schreie ist. Aber weil das so gut ist, sie haben nicht versucht, Pat, Pew, Pew und die Scythe zu tun.

04:17:30 Ja, der Scythe ist ziemlich sicher, aber er geht in und versucht, den Jackdaw zu retten, aber er hat nicht geschafft. So er hat sich die Jackdaw für einen Augur gesehen. Aber im Moment, der Rival hat sich gut gehalten. Er hat sich gut gehalten, dass er die Logie verloren hat, und er wird bereit für eine Kite-to-Kite für den resten der Match.

04:17:56 Yeah, Yeetfleet Elite, they're up right now. With that, an Augur is worth more points than a Jackdoll. And they were able to get onto the Onix of Pyvert as well. So they can take out that Armor Onix without the Armor Reps. Really gonna struggle. That said, Pat Pew Pew and the Scythe falling into low shield. This might be a Logitrade executed here. So it's gonna be a close one. Yeah, and the Onix falls for arrival here.

04:18:26 Das ist etwas, das kann nicht mehr screenen. Und die Raptor kann einfach rein free und tackle die nächste Sache zu sein. Es sagt, dass Raptor ist Painted. Und Arrival ist, dass Raptor der Last-Zero-Zero, Priorität No. 1, taking big chunks out of the shield, having grabbed the Fleet Cyclone. That Fleet Cyclone, possibly the last ship that...

04:18:52 Lass is going to be able to catch before he falls. The Osprey Navy issue and the Cyclone Fleet issue will be able to take over the tackle there with Lass trying to run away and survive. But there's only so far you can run and a Raptor doesn't have any local tank. Yeah, the Raptor just kept the tackle on long enough for the rest of his team to arrive there. Osprey Navy issue also being quite a quick ship.

04:19:20 Und jetzt ist er zu spätig, und ich glaube, er versucht zu schlauern, für einen Moment zu spätigen. Aber er ist wieder zu spätig, und jetzt sieht er die Raptor aus. Und jetzt ist er in die Halt. Die Drones sind einfach schlauert. Ja, die Typhoon hat ein sehr guter Fall-Off-Nude auf den Raptor, als der Raptor ist, und auf die Prop-Driven für eine Krise.

04:19:47 Now, Lee Flint in the Osprey Navy issue, in danger, taking damage. They might be able to get onto this Pontifex, but it looks like a rival might have been able to reestablish their kite. That said, Typhoon, Pontifex, you know, if Heat Fleet can get this Pontifex, then they're in a very good spot, because Raven, Fleet, Cyclone are more points than Typhoon carries. The...

04:20:15 Fleet Cyclone is more points than the Pontian carries put together. So Yeet Fleet are up on points, even losing this Osprey Navy issue. So Yeet Fleet are probably feeling pretty good about themselves right now.

04:20:29 Ja, aber keine dieser Teams haben Lodgy. Also alle die Dämpfe, die er ausgedrückt wird hier. Looking at Yieldfleet Elite sporting eine Shield Tank, sie sind kinder ahead, compared zu den Armour Tanken. Aber jetzt haben sie ihre Osprey-Navy-Ischule, die eher die primary Tackle in dieser Zeit des Match.

04:20:55 So now it will be tricky for the Cyclone Fleet Issue and the Raven, which are both close range fitted to tackle anything. But speaking about it, it looks like the Cyclone Fleet Issue managed to get itself on top of the Typhoon. And the Typhoon is trying to newt that Cyclone Fleet Issue for all it's worth. If you can newt it out, then the Typhoon will be able to move again. But the Raven is right on top as well.

04:21:23 Und das Raven ist able zu apply fully zu der Typhoon. Ich bin jetzt auf die Raven zu finden, um die Weapon System zu bekommen. Ich hoffe, das ist noch eine der Torp Ravens, die wir vorher gesehen haben. Aber ja, Typhoon in eine Tight Spot.

04:21:39 Ja, der Topraven ist, was mit der Armored Tank von diesem Typhoon jetzt. Die Cyclone Fleet ist auch noch in die Low-Shield. Ich habe nicht gesehen, dass es aktiviert ist, was ich möchte, bei 33% von den Schildern machen, weil das auch die meisten Passive Regeneration von den Schildern geht. Aber es sieht nicht aus, dass es eine Active-Shield-Booster hat.

04:22:07 This might be a totally passive Cyclone Fleet, or trying to do some sort of business with a non-Ancillary Shield Booster, as uncommon as that is. Typhoon, low armor, heading towards structure. If they trade the Cyclone Fleet issue for the Typhoon, I think Yeet Fleet are still happy about this, because that Pontifex and that Carries, there's no way in heck they can clear Blood Conid in the Raven.

04:22:35 in vier Minuten. Ja, das wird ein wenig zu sagen, ich würde sagen, von der Destroyer mit Dronebay und Keras mit zwei Drones, ich denke.

04:22:47 So Fleet Cyclone falls, and Typhoon falls right behind. Blood Conned, Standing, Victorious over Arrival. The Pontifex and the Carys, no way they're going to be able to clear that Raven, even if the Raven was pure Buffer.

04:23:08 Ja, well played here from Yeetful Elite. Tackling down a kite comp such as this with a rush comp, basically. A close range brawling comp is not an easy task to do. But they brought right tools with the Onyx, the Osprey Navy issue, and the Raptor. And also the Jackdaw being fast enough. And they made a very decisive decision at the start.

04:23:37 So just go in and get that Logi tackled as fast as possible.

04:23:44 I think the lack of any kind of webs really helped them out here. So the Hyena was completely unbanned. Both teams could have brought it. Both teams could have brought more screen. They opted for the carries. The carries has been quite a strong Ewart Frigate. It's been banned repeatedly. It's been fielded repeatedly. But it's not necessarily as good versus a kite.

04:24:12 Versus a rush, because the rush is just going to come in and it doesn't matter if you're damped if you get there. And with that, boundary violation 222 kilometers. We are ready to send it back to the desk for the end of the day. Thank you all so much.

04:25:19 Ich habe F***ing Lader, ich habe Galente und ich habe Ehrmacht und ich habe einen Ego für Slot! Ich habe F***ing 6 Mids!

04:25:38 And we are back after that final elimination where Yeetfleet has absolutely yeeted Arrival out of the tournament. I'm excited because I got my points back because with a 24% bet from chat, y'all thought Arrival was going to win. I was... I was...

04:26:06 Really, really happy and surprised that that happened. So we'll let it go. But Baza, you were so excited that you saw the Scythe and Scythe game came to play. Why? Yeah, I think the Scythe has been sneaking under people's radars a little bit. I mean, it's had multiple buffs now to fitting and to speed.

04:26:35 It used to be very much a meme ship, it's garbage, it's not worth using, but now it's honestly not that bad, because it's just so fast. I mean, with five low slots, you can fit nanos, you can fit overdrives, and we saw in that match, even though he was damped by the carries, so he had to pull in, which was not the best place for him to be to utilize that speed, but he was still doing above 3200 for the entire time he was alive, and that's mitigating so much damage. So yeah, a really good utilization of that pick there that I think is underutilized in general.

04:27:04 I also just wanted to shout out Yeetfleet Elite's strategy there, because I think they did something really, really smart in that situation that allowed them to bring that rush, and that is they've seen Arrival's bans in previous matches, and this is one of the risks of banning the same thing every time, where you have a predetermined ban set, is Arrival ban Arbitrate to Crucify Sentinel every time.

04:27:25 And what that does is it means Yeetfleet Elite basically have the agency to determine what ships are going to be open. And when you feel like you have a really good read of the meta and what ships are priority to bring, it allows you to determine what is going to be open on your own terms. So Yeetfleet Elite said, okay, we're not going to ban the carries. We're going to leave the carries open. You can take the carries. That means if you're taking a carries, you're not bringing a hyena, which adds on to what Ali was saying. And of course, if you're in a rush, the one thing you don't want to see is a hyena. So if you leave the carries open, you say, go on, take the carries.

04:27:53 Take the carries. They even also banned the Tholos. Said, we're not going to rush you. You can take the carries, you're fine. And they brought the rush, and they executed it perfectly. They chained their tackle, they got the DPS on the right targets. Brilliant. Really, really nice mind games from Yeet Fleet Elite.

04:28:07 I absolutely love the fact that they played mind games with these bands. I mean, honestly, when we first started the match before they landed, I was thinking, okay, Arrival, they've banded the same or similar. Yeet, I was like, okay, maybe we're going for like a Roke Octo or maybe a, you know, some sort of Octo.

04:28:36 Potentially. But, uh, they brought the rush and I absolutely, absolutely am here for it. I am excited to see how they, as slightly an underdog, proceed in this tournament further. And, you know, honestly, I would not count them out for next week. Next weekend. I wouldn't. I would think that...

04:29:02 Well, they'll have to get through tomorrow first. We've still got tomorrow. You know, unfortunately we still have... No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. We totally have to get through everybody and let everybody play. But yeah, no, we still have tomorrow to get through. So let's see if they can continue to bring the Yeet to their next opponent. But...

04:29:32 All of the matches today. And goodness, I am just looking forward to tomorrow. Baza, just off the cuff, without any bans, just looking at the basics of a little bit.

04:29:50 Predictions for tomorrow. Just rough. What are your thoughts? I think we'll start to see some slightly more unusual things come out. I mean, teams that are at this stage have played three or four matches now. So there's a little bit more evidence to go on on what teams are flying, what they want to be capable of, what their banned strategy is. So you might see a little bit more counter-meta if a certain team plays a certain thing. You might be more inclined to field a certain thing against them.

04:30:18 Ja, ich freue mich zu sehen, wie es entwickelt und ich freue mich zu spielen in der ersten Woche. Oh, gosh. Well, hey, best of luck to you tomorrow and everybody else competing. It will be an interesting day, to say for sure, just looking at the base bracket. I...

04:30:45 My brain hurts just from looking at the base bracket. I'm not gonna lie. It's gonna be great, but I guess from that, we will go ahead and see what happens tomorrow and leave it at that. So with that, we will tell everybody to have a good night. And if you've hung out with me, I'm...

04:31:08 If any of y'all know me and have hung out with me, I might tell everybody the same thing. Make sure you're drinking water. Make sure you're hydrating. Take your meds. Take care of yourselves. The best ship is friendship. And we've got to take care of each other. So have a good night, everybody. And fly safe. See ya.