Charity Cup Tournament ! Final Day

EVE Online Charity Cup: Lazy Piglets und Rage Sub im packenden Finale

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- 06.04.25 - 03:58:08 - 15.908 - EVE Online

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EVE Online Charity Cup Finale: Lazy Piglets gegen Rage Sub Cancel Quit. Analysen der Bannphasen, Teamkompositionen und Matchverläufe. Strategische Wendungen, unerwartete Schiffsentscheidungen wie die Dramiel und Diskussionen über Logistik und Drohnenstrategien prägten den Weg zum packenden Finale. Rage Sub Cancel Quit sicherte sich den Sieg nach hart umkämpften Spielen.

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00:00:00 Ich komme direkt aus dem This is England set. Was sind Sie das? Du bist ein Yorbel. Die glasses improve it a bit. Ready?

00:00:28 Welcome back to the last day of the Charity Cup. It is the final day, and man, we... What? Apparently I'm Chad Flame! With that, um...

00:00:46 No, no. Hi guys, I'm Rose. As they fix. But it's okay. But yeah, today we have some fun matches. Chad, you've changed! Oh my god, Chad has red hair.

00:01:01 Thank you, Mr. Zealous, I appreciate it. But with that, we start off with Whelp Drive Active and Lazy Piglets. This is a semi-final match going into... So we will see who comes out with the win and who proceeds. We have Whelp Drive Active banning the Raven, Geddon, and Sentinel, as well as the Arbitrator, because they have lost one match, ergo they get the extra ban.

00:01:31 Lazy Piglets have banned the Baden, Scorpion, Tholos, and as their additional ban have banned the Raptor. Mr. Overlord, or Mr. Confirmed, what is this Raptor ban? It's not a ship we've commonly seen. We've seen it recently in the Past the Feeders, but what might be going on there?

00:01:58 So the Raptor is a great ban. I really like this ban from Mirachieve. It shows that they've been watching the meta. We've seen a bunch of teams field the Raptor. Being an Interceptor, it can go really fast. Kind of its key thing. And one of the things you'll see people do with it is they'll park it at zero.

00:02:16 And as soon as the match starts, it'll go up to 7-8k a second, go straight for the enemy battleship, and probably scram it before that ship can either MJD away, can start trying to prop away. It can pretty much tackle anything the other team can bring in the first five seconds of the match. If you're bringing more of like, let's say, a Torpedo Raven comp, we've seen a lot of those, you want to get on top of the enemy very quickly and just start applying that DPS. The quicker you do that, the better.

00:02:44 So if you have a Raptor, you can just fling in, lock them down, and get your Raven to trundle over. You're going to be in a really commanding position. And this is an extremely hard ship to screen. You would need to have probably a Seaboad Hick ready to scram at range, because the Raptor can move so fast.

00:03:02 Ja, es ist, uh, da haben sich schon memorable matches mit es so far, um, in dieser Tournament. Und, honestly, sie zu sehen, um, das ist... ...kommendbar, in der, in der Fakt, dass sie nicht wollen sie sehen. Uh, Debs...

00:03:26 Between this match, we have a very historical team in the Tuskers. They won the AT last year. Welp Drive is, I don't want to say relatively unknown, but they are, maybe not have as high as an MMR as the Tuskers team. What is your predictions and who are you throwing your teams on for this match?

00:03:54 First, I'd like to say that. I don't know about that. Well, certainly Tuskers are storied and have plenty of experience. Boundary Experts, which is a lot of the Welp Drive Active Team, I think the majority of it, certainly have plenty of tournament experience as well, and they've done quite well in it in the past. But that said, I don't know. I was looking back at the matches, the first match.

00:04:20 We saw that Mirror, the second match, Welp Drive Active, took the Piglet's comp and used it against them and won. And so we're in an interesting situation here. None of those comps are completely banned out. We've got the Abaddon gone, but that's it from those.

00:04:43 We could see repeats, and if we do, I think Lazy Piglets takes it. So I think it matters what it comes down to is, do they bring the same comp or do they bring something specifically tailored? If they mirror it again, I think Piglets takes it. If they don't, I think Welk Drive Active has a really good shot at it.

00:05:03 You know, I really am curious. These teams have shown that they are willing to do and play smart in this. Apparently at this point Local is talking about food and ready to go. Let's see in this cook-off of ships which team wins and they've landed, so let's send it over to the arena.

00:05:37 Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Arena. And this is the final match of the Best of Three series between Whelp Drive Active and the Lazy Piglets. I'm the Basilisk, joined by Greybill for this first match of the day. And it looks like these two teams have identified this is the optimal gun comp. So they've both brought it. Rush is pretty much out, as they were talking about on the desk. The Raptor's gone. Tholos is gone. Abaddon's gone. Control with the Scorpion, Geddon, all that TD stuff. It's all gone. So it's just going to be pure fundamentals here. A display of pure gun mechanics here. What do you think, Greybill?

00:06:06 Ja, es kommt dann zu der Executioner und der Target-Kolling natürlich, was sie zu sehen. Vielleicht die Warp-Ins machen ein bisschen eine Unterschiede. Ich sehe die Prophecy-Navy warped in ein bisschen closer als die anderen. Ja, ich denke, was wir schon ziemlich konsistently in diesen Matchen ist, dass jemand von der Tech-1-Logicruise zuerst hat einen enormen Vorteil. Also, da gibt es auch die Differenzierung in den Fits.

00:06:35 Ja, ich denke, man kann definitiv punch through a Keras hier, even under Reps. So, interesting, uh, that...

00:07:01 Die Teams haben verschiedene Targets gewählt. Wir haben Hyperion MJD'ing über da. Aber Vega hat sich auf den Speed gezwungen. Der Hyperion von Mirra ist in die Richtung. Wir sehen noch ein paar Redbots nicht mehr auf dem Welp-Drive-Aktiv-Side. Es gibt fünf Heavys, die von Hyperion haben, die noch nicht mehr gehen. Sie müssen das Exek sein. Die diese Redbots sind so wichtig. Und die Prophecy Navy-Issue von Jason-Ozran hat einen MJD auf dem Exek.

00:07:30 Indeed, yeah, that NGD from the Processed Navy was a very good one, and Vega is struggling to keep up. Meanwhile, the 2-4 was in the middle.

00:07:57 Yeah, they're just hugging each other out. They're just holding hands, having a great time. Vega's trying to pull range here, but Jason's just following him, and he's obviously therefore got perfect transversal. Jason's not tackled down either, so he's obviously got insane range with that Prophecy Navy as well. It's still really good hits into Vega. Vega's trying his best to get some speed, get some transversal, but he's still taking heavy damage. Those drones are still not going onto him. The rep bots, the heavy bots, the medium bots, they're still just sort of sat there, and that is a lot of missed EHP potential that's doing nothing, basically.

00:08:27 Ja, wir wollen die Radbots auch und aktiv sein. Aber Weger ist hier still. Er hat sich gut gemacht. Er hat die Prophecyon-Navie gemacht. Er hat sich nicht mehr geholfen.

00:08:47 Und natürlich, wenn der MGD-Cycle ist, hat er drei Minuten von lenient zu sein. Er ist sehr gut, und Colin Young ist wieder zurückgegangen.

00:09:01 Ja, der Karriere ist gefährlich. Er ist da. Er ist da. Er ist da. Er ist da. Das ist eine große, große Spiel für Welp Drive active hier. Das ist das Karriere. Das heißt, dass man das Karriere ist. Das heißt, dass man die Karriere ist. Ihr Karriere ist entweder auf den DPS. Und das macht ihr Logi so viel mehr survivable. Wenn du einfach aus dem Prophecy Navy oder Hyperion oder sagen, okay, du musst nicht mehr über ihn. Der Fobos ist tackled. Der Fobos ist bei den anderen Fobos. Sie sind still holding hands. Und sie sind eigentlich sehr, sehr close in diesem Logi trade. Vega ist jetzt über 10% Armour, aber so ist Scorch.

00:09:32 Ja, absolut. In theory, Karis könnte sich jetzt aus der DPS rausnehmen, aber es scheint, dass er nicht optiert, um zu dampen.

00:09:46 He does seem to be damping on the Hyperion of Mira, but we don't know if Mira has local Receivos or protected Receivos from the Magus. Vega does just go down, but they've already made that Logitrade in their favor here, so this is not looking great for Lazy Piglets. They are a carries down at this point, and the comps are basically the same otherwise. So damage is starting to be applied to Jason first. They're trying to make that carries trade, because they know that if they let this...

00:10:10 Es wird einfach zu debilitating sein. Die mehr Schiff du verlieren, die mehr Dampfs werden, und es wird einfach total unplayable. Without Lodgy, sie werden können die Schiffen, aber wie lange es dauert sie? Wie viel Schiff werden sie verlieren an den anderen Schiff in der meantime?

00:10:24 Quite a bit, and this Karis is still alive. Well, as I said, he goes down, but still... Sorry. But yeah, the Phobos of Stu Mine are now taking quite some damage. I guess WinProNolan has enough of being hacked here. Yeah, and this is the point where teams need to have run through...

00:10:50 um the boring bit of the numbers and figure out which ship is best to kill we see tuskers are actually opting to clear the links here they're killing alexander in that magus meanwhile welp drive active are clearing the foe boss of stew minder they've also got some damage on the magus of alex um not sure whether clearing personally not sure whether clearing links is the right option here but these two hypes are still going to be living towards the end of the match here and we're going to have a brawl face-off between these two hypes who's going to be able to tank and dps more um but napper from dbz

00:11:18 Ja, jetzt ist es wirklich sehr auf die Target-Calling. Was machen wir jetzt? Und ja, Killing die Links hier mit dem Magus ist eine gute Wahl in der Long-Run, wenn Hyperion starten muss, seine Local-Rep.

00:11:44 Wenn es keine Armour Links gibt, dann ist es ein Vorteil. Ja, es ist wirklich wichtig hier, dass Alex Kautzuo in der Magus für Lazy Piglets hat eigentlich survived. So all die Zeit sie haben, sie haben nicht geholfen, sie haben nicht geholfen, sie haben nicht geholfen. Aber er ist noch 200 DPS mit der Magus Drones. Und dann, wenn es um Welp Drive geht, dann wird er noch ein Rapid Repair Links geben, er wird noch Armour Resist Links geben, so es wird das viel schwieriger zu töten.

00:12:11 And are they actually going to win this race here? Damage is on to Mira in the hype. It is a Hyperion and a Prophecy Navy plus 200 DPS from Magus against a Hyperion and a Phobos. Will they struggle to shoot through the Phobos with its Galente Resists?

00:12:24 Currently, I would say it's clearly in favor of the Lazy Piglets here, just because they can project different damage types as well, not just kinetic and thermal, as the Phobos and the Hyperion can do. I'm not sure, though. They are putting big damage into Mira here. He's going down into about a third armor, and that Phobos is dropping pretty slowly as well.

00:12:50 Ja, wir sehen. Wenn der Phobos geht, glaube ich, Mira wird definitiv eine Chance zu leben. Aber natürlich, wenn ein Hyperion ist, wenn nur Chadwick ist, dann gegen both Prophecy und Hyperion wird das tough sein.

00:13:10 Oh, no, and I've just seen a slight mistake from Chadwick. He launched Heavy Armor Bots and he wanted to get Valks out, so he had to take another couple seconds to get those Valks back out and onto that hype, and that gives Mira a couple extra seconds to start repping. Chadwick's taking a lot of damage now as well. Is there enough damage left to kill Mira here? I think Tuskers, the Lazy Piglets, are going to have it here. They're just going to be able to kill Chadwick before Mira goes down, or even if Mira does go down, I think Chadwick will drop soon after, and that will...

00:13:33 He's hanging on there. He's trying his best but I think it's in vain.

00:14:02 Es ist in vain. Und Chadwick geht runter. So, unfortunately, es war eine gute Performance für beide Teams. Aber es wird Lazy Piglets progressieren auf den Final gegen Ragequick Cancel Sub. Welp Drive Active spielen gegen Evasive Maneuvering in der 3rd-Place Decider. Great match, everyone. GF ist in Local und wir senden es zurück zu den Desk. Stop being casual. Sie sind wirklich schlecht. Wir sollten nicht jemanden verlieren. Warp off. Warp off. Everybody warp off. Das ist wirklich schlecht. Ich bin sehr disappointed.

00:14:48 Crush our enemies. Your dams are completely dammed out. Crush, I'm dammed out, I'm dammed out. Get on that chamber, boys. Heat your apps. Yeah. Everything down. I have not been able to lock this over the game. I'm jammed.

00:15:21 And with that, the lazy piglets are not so lazy as they move on further into the tournament. We will see Wolf Drive active fight for third place, but we will see what happens going forward. Mr. Overload!

00:15:48 The target priority and the fixation on both sides, and we saw little mistakes from both sides, where did that really impact Welp Drive Active?

00:16:07 I believe you are muterated. Bloody muterator. He's always lurking. I thought I was safe here in Iceland, but turns out he's been lurking here the whole time. So as I was attempting to say, when you have a situation like this with a mirror matchup, where you have two teams bringing the same set of ships, then it comes down to a combination of piloting ability and target calling. So we saw off the bat, both teams decided to go for a different primary.

00:16:34 Die Weltdrive-Aktiv-Side ging für die Kerries und die Tusker-Side, während LazyPiglitz ging für die Executor. So LazyPiglitz war das Logistik-Cruiser von der get-go, während LazyPiglitz war die Kontrolle mit den Kerries. Und was wir sah, ist das Kerries von LazyPiglitz war sehr stark. Er war sehr low. Er hat sich direkt nach dem Executor und die Reps auf. Ich glaube, es war ein Hecht von der Executor-Pilot zu machen, dass die Kerries nicht drop.

00:17:03 Once it was clear that they were, he was out and getting reps and was holding, a lot of sort of less experienced teams might just kind of target fixate and focus and just keep shooting that carries while losing their executor. What we saw here is Weltdrive Active recognized that the carries was now in a position that they couldn't kill it essentially, so they needed to swap off of it and they changed their target. So this is good piloting, good target calling, recognizing the situation as it is happening.

00:17:32 Of course, the Kerrys was still doing its thing, and they would swap back to it and catch the Lazy Pickles by surprise and remove it, taking the first ship down. This is...

00:17:44 in comparison to the Lazy Piglet, so they just went for that Executor. And with a great MJD from Jason Orzan, they managed to chase him down and remove the Executor. So at one point it was a little bit touch and go. Welp Drive Active lost a bit of time shooting that carries, but then they managed to pull it back, get that carries down, and then they traded the Executors at roughly the same time. So good target calling, good target priority from both sides. And it's always interesting to see in these mirror matchups when one little difference, like who do you shoot first, can really start to swing a match.

00:18:14 And we definitely saw it come into play there, as we get some wonderful fireworks in the arena from CCP. Zealous, who brought them from home, it looks like we are setting up for the next match, which is Evasive Maneuvering vs Rage Sub Cancelled. Oh, I always feel like that one's a tongue twister. But we have some...

00:18:40 Interesting bans. The match is going to happen. This is more of a show match more than anything else. Evasive Maneuvering banning the Astero, the Mekubal, the Wolf, the Gnosis, and the Talos. Rage Sub, Cancel Quit banning the Arbitrator, the Sentinel, and the Crucifier. Dubs, these bans. Yes, it's a show match, but do you think we're going to see some fun stuff with this?

00:19:07 I think we might. Obviously Evasive Maneuvering banning five ships that are not allowed in the tournament. So clearly signaling some fun intentions there. RageSubcancelquit doesn't want to get TD'd. I'm going to take a wild guess here that they're going to bring missile ships.

00:19:31 Awesome. And with that, it does look like they have landed as the fireworks show continues. So I do enjoy fireworks, Zealous. Thank you for this. And let's go ahead and send it over to the arena.

00:19:50 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the arena. Please make sure your seat is in the upright position and your seatbelt is fastened. You're about to witness the first oracle in this tournament, if I'm remembering correctly. We see both projection comps facing off against each other. Main difference, shield versus armor here.

00:20:16 Yeah, both two quite straightforward comps, although we can see why Rage Subcancel Quit have banned all the TD boats, because it allows them to bring a mix of weapon types without fearing too much. So you've got that missile-based Onyx mixed in there with the missile-based Raven and the gun-based Ferox Navy. So as you say, yeah, there's just two projection-based comps. I believe that is a Cruise Raven, which I think we've seen a couple times before, and obviously that thing can just hit the entire arena.

00:20:43 I would expect him to just MJD somewhere at the star and just be annoying at a distance and just say, okay, you've got to come over here and deal with me if you want to deal with me at some point, otherwise I'm just going to keep shooting. But again, I think we're going to see an attempt at a quick Logi trade here.

00:20:58 Ja, die Skins eigentlich machen es ziemlich hart zu identifieren, aber es ist eine Kruse-Raven. Und ja, Melinda taking die ersten Shots hier. Ja, unfortunately für Melinda, wenn du in Auspray geteilt hast, es bedeutet, dass du deine Rolle als ein Large Shield-Extender hast. Du hast über 20 Sekunden zu run, und dann wirst du. Und Melinda ist das jetzt.

00:21:24 as he is rather quickly dying, actually, to these powerful guns on the Oracle, on the APOC, which are absolutely having no problem tracking a fairly large, not particularly fast Osprey with Tec1 Resists.

00:21:37 Ja, especially lasers into shields, right? It's a tough matchup if you fly Logi in this situation. But Belinda is flying well and kind of forces the epoch of Pant here to MJD closer to get enough range to finish him off.

00:21:55 Yeah, this is the thing with the APOC, is it does have really good tracking and really decent range with pulses, but it can still be keist. If you get to about 90k with Scorch, it starts to get out of range, but of course with the MJD, as soon as you see him get away. Although Melinda does do his own excellent MJD to get back away from the APOC. He was playing on the beacon there, baiting the APOC in. Beautiful. And Melinda gets away, but he is probably still going to die here as the APOC is still pushing towards him. Going to have Scorch loaded and be able to do really decent damage here.

00:22:23 Ja, da er geht es. Ein finaler Shot und er geht es runter. Und sie haben fast gestartet auf der anderen Seite, auf dieser Augur.

00:22:31 Ja, es ist nicht gut. Es ist nicht gut. Aber natürlich ist es einfach für Spaß, für die Zuschauer zu enjoy. Rage Subcancelquit hat 2-0 für die Serie gestern, so die Ergebnisse nicht wirklich verletzten. Ich würde sagen, Rage Subcancelquit wird in den Finals gegen Tuskers nach dem Break. Sie wahrscheinlich nicht wollen etwas aus der Ordnung, das ist nicht. So das ist gut für sie. Sie verlieren ihren Hyena, das ist nicht so.

00:22:58 In this situation of two Hyenas against each other, the Hyena from invasive maneuvering can feel a little bit free to just sort of ram in web primaries and not worry about being counterwebbed. Indeed, the only thing really dangerous to this Hyena is now the Onyx, but with the speed of a Hyena, it shouldn't be too hard to avoid the Higgsgram. Meanwhile, the Augurer taking some damage and getting very far out of the center of the arena. He's at 100 kilometers at the moment.

00:23:28 Still going a little bit further.

00:23:31 Aber Gratel, ich wollte mich fragen, weil du ein Tournament Vettel hast, und du hast viel gehalten. Was ist dein Vibe auf Augur versus Exekuror? In der letzten Match, wir sahen zwei Exekurors, von Welp Drive Active und Tuskers, diese Zeit evasive Maneuvering, und in einem sehr similar Armour-Based-Gun-Comp. Sie haben auch einen Augur. Was ist dein Vibe auf die beiden? Welche du preferst? Exekuror, weil der vier Mid-Slot ist, die gibt es die Option für eine Duel Prop.

00:23:59 So a 50mm Microwave drive and an MTD from the Augur. Not sure why that happened. Ah, he went towards his Epoch buddy. That was nice. So the Epoch about to receive some reps here from the Augur, which can put out a bit more reps than the Execurer. That's the trade-off between the survivability of the Exec compared to the Augur. But the Augur has to do with one single

00:24:28 PropMod, usually go, it depends on your comp, but usually you fit the other two midslots with cap char and cap boosters.

00:24:39 So, just, yeah, keep chugging cap, which actually can be an issue in this team on logistics, because after a while, if a match takes longer and you keep chugging capsticks and keep reloading and keep wrapping and keep propping around, you eventually might run out of batteries.

00:24:59 Wenn ein Match goes that long, you're probably in a pretty decent position if your Logi's live the whole time with how much priority we've seen on killing Logi. As I say that, Mr. Keps does start going into hull. I'm surprised how long Nicholas in the Onyx is actually living here. But I think what we have seen in the later stages of this tournament, and we saw it again in this match and indeed in the last one, is the really intelligent use of MJDs and how using the beacons can really get you an edge if you can smash that button at just the right time and just quickly pull 100k from something just when you need it.

00:25:28 as Melinda attempted to do, as Pandy did in the APOC to get close, as Jason Osran did last match. You can get huge plays and huge advances from just that one module or that one beacon usage. And there the final Cruise Missile hits that Augurer and takes it down. But it doesn't matter that much, I would say, because, yeah, RageSupCancelQuit has lost pretty much everything but their mainline DPS here.

00:25:56 Ja, und wenn du auf gegen Apok und Oracle bist, die DPS in die Incomung ist einfach so. Ich meine, der Stork wird instantly voller. Ich glaube, er hat ein Web, und das war es. Er hat zwei oder drei Volleys, und er ist weg. Und jetzt werden sie einfach durch den Raven und den Ferox-Navy. Und ja, das ist natürlich ein clear win für Evasive Maneuvering. Als ich gesagt habe, sie werden weitergehen in der 3rd-Place-Decider.

00:26:18 Ja, das ist eigentlich eine Redemption-Match für Evasive-Maneuvering, giving sie die Möglichkeit, dass sie gewinnen gegen Rage-Sub-Cancel-Quit.

00:26:40 Saying that, Pandey is getting into very low armor. He has MJD'd again off this beacon to get away, but I don't know if it's actually going to be able to get away from the Raven, obviously the Cruise Raven, as we mentioned. So much range. Are they actually going to be able to win this with just these two ships? Obviously the Oracle, not going to be particularly tanky, especially with Logi on grid. Will the Raven and Ferox Navy be able to beat these ships here? Yeah, that might actually be a big surprise and net negative for my channel points here, but I'll take it.

00:27:08 Here I am, thinking, oh, they've killed the Logi, they're fine. But this Raven and Ferrox Navy are absolutely spewing out damage, and the APOC is really eating shit here. Pandi is going down pretty quickly, and once the Oracle goes down afterwards, there won't be any damage left. Pandi MJDs again downwards this time, but they'll think he's going to die to cruise missiles in air here. He's just not got enough range from this Raven. The cruise Raven is just so oppressive.

00:27:31 Und da geht's. Was ich könnte, dass hier passiert ist, dass sie Bait-Tanked Skycaller-Russian in den Oracle, weil sie versucht, es zu versuchen, in den Start zu versuchen, aber es scheint nicht zu nehmen. Also, sie gezwungen zu einem anderen Target. Ja, ich glaube, es sind jetzt mit Bait-Tanked Oracles, wo man einen Oracle hat, und man hat 5 Resist-Mods und es macht 600 DPS, und es ist eigentlich ziemlich tanky.

00:28:00 But it will still die here under Feroxnavian Ravenfire, for sure.

00:28:06 Also, Debug taking quite some hits here. But I think he still has his Ancillary Shield Booster here, which he can use. Yeah, I think his Ancillary is probably out of charges at this point, but he's just going to be running on Cat Boosters. If you've got a Heavy Cat Booster, you can get two or three charges from one 13200 plus regen. You can get a couple of cycles out here. And I think once this Oracle goes down, it will be a real struggle for the Devoted to just break through what's left of this Raven with the Shield Bots.

00:28:33 Er ist sehr low, 9% shield, 6%. Will they kill the oracle first? He will smash that rep module, his shield booster, just to try to get it cycling as soon as he has enough cap again. But it doesn't look like that's going to happen soon. He's into half armor now, and Kalantari ship's not known for the armor.

00:29:02 It is still a battleship, though, and I mean, with the damage control, he's going to have a reasonable amount of structure at EHP as well when he gets there. And the Devoter, I would have expected the Devoter to just be right on him pumping Conflag, but he's not. Or Gleam, sorry, but he's not. He's, I guess, trying to keep tracking up and keep him a little bit range. They are going down about the same time, this Oracle and this Raven. They need to keep the Raven alive. If the Raven dies, they definitely lose. If the Raven lives, they may still win.

00:29:29 Big boosts, yeah. Did he get the reload off? Did he commit for the reload? I think he may have done. I don't think he can do that many boosts. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, let's secure this. That must be a reload, yeah. He cycled all he could on cap. He cycled all he could on charge and he committed. He said, right, I need to reload. And just 60% hull left. He gets that reload off and manages to boost back up. And that's a really nice decision making from debug to sort of judge the DPS on the field and say, okay, I've got time to do this. Should be able to squeeze this out. And now it is actually going to be a cleanup.

00:29:58 Für Rage Subcancel Quit. So, again, we cast a Cursed Evasive Maneuvering, saying, oh, this is free, they've won this, they killed the Ozprey, they killed the Hyena. It's done. It's not done. It's far from done. This Raven and Ferox Navy, with their Ancel Shield Boosters, is a very, very powerful combination. Indeed, yeah. Also, the Lynx of the Ferox Navy issue, they're still helping out the Raven.

00:30:22 But no links on the side of... We see some numbers here. Sorry, Pontifex is obviously still alive. I was going to say, I was waiting for you to spot him. Yeah, I was still thinking about the Oracle. Oh, time has run out, I think. Wait, no, 30 seconds remaining. Time is about to run out. We have totally neglected the clock. We've not been paying attention to the numbers there. We've been too busy watching the health bars.

00:30:49 We actually lost a bet as CCP collectively, so that's why that Alliance logo is in the game.

00:31:13 Of course, you could change your alliance by leaving, but that would be kind of a jerk move. Oh, you don't like it? Just leave. This logo sucks, so I'm going to go join.

00:31:42 Outro

00:32:12 And with that, Evasive Maneuvering is going to the third place decider, where Rage Sub Cancel Quit goes on to go with the Lazy Piglets. It looks like we have another guest cat. Oh my goodness. What baby. Now, that match technically was solid.

00:32:39 Debs, was about that local tank and the benefits of having that in a format where you can only have one Logi? Yeah, so what we saw there was as the DPS went down...

00:32:59 Die localen Tanks wurden stärker, effektivt. Und etwas, was nicht funktioniert gegen high-damage, will funktionieren. Most of die Zeit, wenn man über die localen Tanks spricht, gibt es einen hohen, wie viel sie können, speziell in diesem Format, wo man nicht braucht, wie high-grade Crystals, Blue Pill, Hard Shell, das sort of. No dead space.

00:33:25 Boosters, no dead space reps, that sort of stuff. The amount of tank that you can get out of a local tank is pretty minimal when it comes down to it. But the Raven has enough mids that you can still make that pretty tanky. And by taking out that APOC, they reduced the amount of damage on grid sufficiently that the Raven was able to mostly tank that. And when the Raven ran out of those charges, it was still able to...

00:33:55 Es war able to have enough buffer that it was able to reload and keep its tank going. And we saw just how much the team was struggling to get through that local tank, even though you'd expect a local tank Raven, not that good, but in here it was just because they got rid of so much DPS with that APOC down. So what this is showing us is just how...

00:34:22 Wie ist die Ferox-Navy? Das ist auch so, dass die Ferox-Navy nicht getrennt, und das ist weil es die Bonus zu den Ferox-Navy getrennt, wo es kann Ancils aus der Kappen viel besser machen, und die Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuverin-Maneuver

00:34:49 Fürsure, und wir können sehen, wie sie definitiv genommen haben, ihre Targets gewissermaßen, würde ich sagen.

00:35:03 And I'm going to throw this briefly. We saw that they had a fireworks advantage, clearly. In that win, even though it didn't really technically impact anything, there was definitely a fireworks advantage. Very, very fantastic. Much like skins, fireworks and a good set of skins, it really just increases the sense of unity and morale for the team.

00:35:30 Und das ist einfach... Du kannst nicht überstehen, die wichtigste Team-Morale ist. Und ich weiß nicht, Juni, aber wenn ich in einen Tournament spielen und man sich auf die Führerwerke spielen kann, ich bin... Ich bin... Ich bin auf die Führerwerke. Ja, ich... Als jemand, die auf die Führerwerke lebt, und die Tenden zu vielleicht machen, und hat eine...

00:36:00 Very large stock of fireworks. I can see that it is a thing. And yes, if I'm having a bad day, fireworks are always there for me. So I like them. But hey, we have something a little special. We have a replay to go ahead and go over. And let's go ahead and load that up.

00:36:29 All right, so behold, ladies and gentlemen, the pinnacle of technology. We can watch the match again. This is our first match of the day, and we're going to try and go through this a little bit. Debs, just jump in when we get going. So this is the first match, Rob Drive Active versus Lazy Piglets. This is a mirror matchup. You should be able to see on your screens. Let me just demonstrate for you. You see here this list of ships. It equals...

00:36:57 This list of ships. Okay? This is important. This is what we call a mirror matchup. Now, Debs, I'm going to hit play on this match. Let's go. Sure. So, I think the initial target calling that you mentioned before in the analysis was pretty interesting, though I don't think it ended up mattering as much as the target calling later in the match.

00:37:24 I agree. Ich denke, es ist interessant zu sehen, wie Sie hier sehen, die Karies der Red Team sind in dieser Richtung, während über in dieser Seite, die Karies und die Karies sind sehr wichtig. Das ist sehr wichtig für sie zu bleiben. Sie sehen, die Phobos sind in der Mitte, sie lieben sich einen anderen. Sie spenden die ganze Zeit dort, aber wirklich, was sollte passieren, dass die Phobos von Stu hier wahrscheinlich versuchen, diese Prophesy-Navia ein bisschen besser zu screenen.

00:37:52 Und ich würde sagen, wir müssen hier sehen, dass wir hier in dieser Prophecy Navy, weil irgendwann er wird, und er wird, und er wird, und er wird, und er wird, und er wird, und er wird, und er wird, und er wird, und er wird, und hier wird. Ja, aber du kannst, dass die Prophecy Navy von Welp Drive Active, ohne ein Fancy MJD-Player, wirklich macht das gleiche, und als die Lazy Piglet's Prophecy MJDs über die Exec...

00:38:18 Und wir haben Welttribe-Active von den Lazy Piglets-Exec. Genau. Und wieder, die zwei Fowl-Wazen sind jetzt aus dem Spiel. Sie spielen ihre eigene separatee Spiel. Sie können auch einfach nur bleiben und bleiben. Das ist interessant, weil es jetzt sozusagen ein 5v5 ist jetzt. Und hier ist Jason jetzt in der Backline. Der Exeggur ist jetzt in der Backline. Der Exeggur ist jetzt in der Karriere. Der Karriere ist jetzt in der Karriere. Der Karriere ist jetzt in der Karriere. Und natürlich, Sie sehen die Magus hier.

00:38:45 Er ist sicher, dass er nebenbei ist, den Phobos, den Hyperion und den Executiven in den Linx-Boost ist. Er muss sich in der Mitte der Arena positionieren, das ist ziemlich awkward. Er ist ziemlich vulnerable. Er ist sehr nahe zu Jason. Und Sie sehen hier, Jason ist zu machen.

00:39:03 And you see, while Jason's doing that, we've got down on the lower center of the screen, the Prophecy Navy still chasing down that exec. So both Prophecy Navies chasing down the respective execs. This is still like almost perfectly mirrored, right? Everybody's more or less in the same position. It's still a mirror.

00:39:26 So we're watching positioning, we're looking for people making mistakes. If you watch the carries now, I'm pretty sure this is when they make a snap change and start DPSing him. The Phobos was taking some damage, as was the Executor, but all of a sudden they swap back to this carries of Conan, and they're able to take him down pretty quickly, which is important, because that is quite a big loss for the control.

00:39:47 Now, meanwhile, the carries are up the top, just chilling out. There is a blob of drones chasing them, which you can just see here as well. But they turn and go to the executor, as you might expect. Yeah, and you can see that I think that came from the carries sticking close to his exec. And so when the Prophecy Navy is chasing it down, chasing that exec down, the carries is right there for the taking. And they realize that, hey, we can just get rid of this problem.

00:40:14 Interestingly, the Phobos and the Magus were very close to each other. So this Magus came in to try, presumably, to make sure his Phobos got Lynx. But he was very close to Stu Miner in this. He's still very close to it, right here. And there's very little attempt to lock down that Magus here. Removing Lynx is really important. If they get a fire off, it goes, you know, two minutes of boosts, and then you die one second and you still get two minutes. You're a lot harder to kill. So sometimes being aware of the positioning here.

00:40:43 I know it's important to keep the other Phobos locked down, but it's also important to take that opportunity to try and snipe this Magus that's just hanging around in the middle of the match. Yeah, and you have to question how important it is to keep the Phobos locked down with both execs gone. Certainly it's still annoying, certainly you don't want your Hyperion or your Navy Prophecy that can MJD tackled. Yeah, that's bad, but if you could give that up for Lynx, that seems like a potential trade that you might want to make.

00:41:10 Ja, und jetzt sehen wir hier, wir sind in einer jeweiligen Situation. Die zwei Exekulats sind beide dead, die zwei Carries sind beide dead. Die Magus hier, der Lazy Piglet, ist ein bisschen ein bisschen damage. Und ich denke, das ist eine andere Partie, wo wir sehen, Target Priorität, Change. So, Lazy Piglet, sie wählen für die Navy Prophecy hier. Ich bin pretty sicher, dass sie ein bisschen damage in die Magus sind, aber ich denke, das ist nur Phobos, an dieser Stelle. Er hat sich woken up und erinnert, dass es ein Magus ist. Ich eigentlich ganz like diese Chance, um zu versuchen, die extra DPS aus der Navy Prophecy.

00:41:39 Es ist eine andere Lösung für Welp Drive Active. Sie versuchen, die extra Kontrolle zu töten, um die Phobos zu töten.

00:41:46 Ja, ich denke, das ist der turning point. Das spielt in die Lokal Tank. So die Hyperion bekommt das Lokal Tank bonus. Das heißt, wenn du das Navy Prophecy aus kannst... Wir sehen uns die Magus die, aber er war burning in die Prophecy-Navy. So, weil die Prophecy-Navy-Issue ist derjenige, bevor er died, er turned und burned. Und du sahst die Linx-Firre, als er died. Ich weiß, dass ich die Magus die. So, du siehst die Magus hier? Er ist burning.

00:42:15 ... ... ... ...

00:42:36 Yep, but unfortunately, because they traded for the Phobos, that Phobos is some damage, but it's not nearly as much as the Navy Prophecy, which means that they go into this final bit down the Magus and the Navy Prophecy, so it's Hyperion Phobos versus Hyperion Navy Prophecy, which would already be bad, but because they never managed to trade for that Magus, it's pretty much sealed at this point. Yeah, the link's just fired here for Lazy Piglets.

00:43:04 Picking up Mira Chief, we saw the Magus also come in, make sure his boosts were getting on top. And Mira turning at this point, the Navy Prophecy is down. So, Laser Pickles in a relatively commanding position. The only thing that they don't have, essentially, is this Phobos here, which does provide additional control. They're probably going to lose their Magus, if I remember as well. But the extra DPS now, if you look at the size of the attack bars, they are almost the same.

00:43:31 So, this is based on fitting. It looks like the World Drive Active Site had higher DPS overall comp, whereas I'd imagine this Hyperion here is more fit for long-range rails.

00:43:44 And I think the final thing we see here is drones. So at some point, Chadwick tries to put out rep drones onto his friendly Phobos to keep it alive, but the drones never make it over. You can see them sitting on the Hyperion right now, not repping anything at all. And I don't know if that would have made the difference. They do get Mira quite low. So if you'd been able to keep that Phobos up another 20 seconds.

00:44:11 Even 10 seconds, maybe that could have changed it. Yeah, and also interesting to notice is if you look at the drone blobs that are around most of the time, Tusker is choosing to use mostly DPS drones, whereas WebDraftActive went for repbots. In this case, obviously, there's no one else to rep, so Chadwick launches some DPS drones and sends them after Mirachieve. It's a wise decision to make. Yeah, but you have to wonder if...

00:44:37 They could have put out damaged drones before, threw them on that Magus, get rid of those Lynx. The Magus has no reps. The drones will eventually kill it. This match certainly dragged out long enough for that to be effective, I think. I think so, too. And at this point, I think the match is pretty much over. The Hyperion is about to go down. I don't need to see a replay of it, but in case you can't see where it is, it's right here in the middle of your screen. He's about to die, which is going to be very sad.

00:45:06 This is him right now. That's extreme sadness. But the Lady Piglet is, of course, going to be much, much happier. Good match. I give this a solid 7.3 out of 9. That's the overload score. I'm just going to do OS, overload score. There you go. And that's the replay.

00:45:35 Oh yes, so one thing, in fact I can go back just one minute. So this here, if you can still see it, let me remove my overload score. So this is a screenshot from our previous match, and somewhat importantly, down here, this is one of our commentators, the Basilisk. I've always thought about the Basilisk, good commentator, just way too much hair. So I think he has a video for us.

00:46:04 I'm here with Jintan in Weston-Supermair. As you may have noticed, Jintan is running a charity fundraiser for Weston Hospice Care, which provides end-of-life support for terminally ill people in Weston-Supermair and the surrounding area. This is actually kind of close to me, as I've lived in this area with my family for about 10 years now, and my mum's currently in hospital, not in great shape.

00:46:26 So, to support this fundraising effort, I'm going to be getting my head shaved. So ISDs, if you could please type in chat, exclamation mark charity, get those donation links out. And thank you so much everyone for anyone who donated.

00:48:38 And with that, we are back with the Basilisk Lemon Eater. They are a little roasty in the chat today for you, Baza. That's okay, I'm used to it. But next up we have the lazy piglets and rage, so cancel quit. Goodness.

00:49:01 All right, so with that, we have their bans already in place. So with this, it is the best of four? Five. One, two, five. Man. If we're lucky. It's okay. If we're lucky, you know, I guess the saying is true. Goons can only count to four.

00:49:27 But with that, we have the Lazy Piglets banning the Scorpion, the Tholos, and the Typhoon. We have Rage Sub cancel Quit banning the Arbitrator, the Sentinel, and the Hyena. Baza, talk to me about these bans. What do you think we might kind of see? Is there some mind games in here? Yeah, I think these are fairly standard bans for both of these teams. It doesn't give too much away. The Tholos is a mainstayer when you want to stop those really powerful Tholos rushes. Arbitrator, Sentinel, again, two very, very strong ships.

00:49:56 I think I commented maybe last week about banning Sentinel, leaving the Crucifire open, and the Sentinel has the extra power of those small newts to just sort of deal with tackle. The main thing for me here is that the carries is open, so I would expect both these teams most likely to field the carries in some form or another. But this is the first match of a best of five, so I wouldn't expect anything too sort of crazy. I think this will be like an execution check on both sides here.

00:50:22 Yeah, I think this just might kind of be feeling out where they are, where, you know, maybe seeing where the ground is, seeing what happens and going from there. Lemon Eater, where are you putting your points on in this match?

00:50:39 Ich habe eine persönliche Biasse hier, aber ich bin definitiv für Lazy Pigwitz, glaube ich. Ich glaube, dass ihre Bands, ich glaube, sind definitiv etwas mehr zu wollen, wie ein heavy Kite Comp, glaube ich. Und ich glaube, dass sie ein guter Job gemacht haben. Kite Comp ist sehr gut, so ich bin definitiv eher auf Lazy than auf Rage Sub.

00:51:02 Personally, at least for this first match, I have thrown my points on Lazy Piglets. Just kind of what we've seen so far in the tournament from them. I am not counting out Rage Sub Cancel Quit, though. I would like to see them come through and punch upward, but I don't know. Basilisk, where are you throwing predictions on this?

00:51:27 Es ist schwierig. Obviamente, diese sind die zwei besten Teams in der Tournament. Sie sind beide wirklich, wirklich gut. Ich denke, ich will mit RageSub, weil sie so dominant sind. Yesterday, sie 2-0 der Quarter-Final, 2-0 der Semi-Final und dann beat a Base of Maneuvering in der Show-Match, die wir halb an hour ago sahen. So, ja, sie sind in wirklich, wirklich gut form. Also, just looking at die Bands again, Drone-Compse sind völlig open, so whether oder nicht eine dieser Teams möchte und ...

00:51:55 Bring one of those and address. Try and fight off a gun comp with that, but as I said, the Arbitrator and Sentinel both banned, so you may have to rely a little bit more into damps like Kerry's and Celestis if you want to deal with projection.

00:52:11 For sure. And from the chat, I do see somebody was like, the goal was 500 pounds. Yes. So at this point, we have over doubled that at 1,111 pounds and 79 pence. Everything up to 2,500 pounds is matched by Jinton's work.

00:52:40 So, just keep in mind, we are at the amount that, from what everybody here has donated, it will already be doubled. So, yeah, just keep that in mind, and hopefully we do, you know, punch upward, as we say. Act like frigates and just take it to the moon. But, alright.

00:53:09 Es ist ein wirklich tolles Amount zu haben so far. Vielen Dank an alle, die uns zu haben. £1,100 ist eine unglaubliche Amount. Vielen Dank, das ist wirklich, wirklich brillant.

00:53:20 Absolut, das ist, es geht um eine fantastische cause, es geht um, Baze, du sagst, in deinem Video, ja, in deinem Bereich, ja, in deinem Bereich, ja, in deinem Bereich? Ja, meine Eltern moved in die Bereich um 10 Jahre, und ich habe, nicht mit ihnen, sondern mit ihnen, aber mit ihnen, für die ganze Zeit, um, es ist ein okayer Platz zu leben, ich würde es sagen.

00:53:49 But hey, yeah, it's close to you in area. It's close to Jinton from his family. As an American, I will say it's close to me because I wish we had something like that when my aunt had secondhand lung cancer, secondhand smoking lung cancer. So it would have been absolutely huge. So I'm really glad to see that this is such a good charity.

00:54:17 you know, to be able to help and help with so I'm really really happy to see it and thank you for everybody who has donated

00:54:28 It means a lot to everybody here on production. Alright, so with this being best of five, Lemon, um, man, what do you, do you think we're gonna see maybe something, I don't know, unexpected?

00:54:48 I feel like with just having like a potential of up to five games, I feel like the losing team, it's not just going to be sort of same style comp switching around one or two ships ramming into each other. I feel like both teams are already with several ideas here and several different strategies that they might take to play. So I definitely do think that we're going to be switching, seeing like comps or even play stuff switching up.

00:55:11 oder sogar einfach nur eine bestimmte Kampf, wie hart sie in einer bestimmten Kampf sind, oder wie aggressiv sie in einer bestimmten Kampf sind. Ich denke, das ist das hier, zu halten die Team auf der Seite des Blades, und zu sehen, wie gut sie können, oder zu spielen, wie sie anders zu sehen.

00:55:27 Yeah, I really would love to see some mind games here. Wingna in the chat saying they whipped out a potato comp in AT. I would absolutely love to see all potato-shaped chips or...

00:55:48 Ich hoffe, diese Teams bringen ihren A-game. Right now, sie sind jetzt ein bisschen weirre balance. RageSubCancelQuit hat 34% der Chat Points.

00:56:12 From Channel. Lazy Piglets having 66%. So somebody went really heavy into Lazy Piglets.

00:56:22 I mean, I guess we will see, kind of, what ends up happening. But they have not landed yet, so... While we're here, I will just address a question in chat. So a question in chat from Krakar the Lurker, a very good question. If they win, are the ships they used added to the bands, like AT? The answer to your question is no. If they lose, they get an extra band for the next match. So the team that loses this first match, both teams have three bands.

00:56:49 The team that loses this first match will have four bans in the second match. If they lose again, they will get five bans in the third match and so on.

00:56:58 Ja, so als es best-of-five ist, wenn jemand mehr als zwei Matches verliert, dann würde es ein extraordinarer Bans haben, richtig? Ja, so wenn es geht um die 5e Match, dann beide Teams haben zwei Matches verloren, also beide Teams haben fünf Bans. Und das significantly reduziert die Abilanzung der Abilanzung zu verlassen.

00:57:26 Um, if you wanted to, say, get rid of drone comps, you could do Dominik's Armageddon, and then you could get rid of two gun battlecruisers, or Phobos Devota, for example, if you wanted to get rid of gun comps. Um, and it makes the theorycrafting a little bit more challenging in the later stages.

00:57:39 Honestly, I will say, I hope we get to see that. I love seeing when teams cook and bring crazy things, because that's what they can do. Local is asking, going off and asking, like, saying, hi, friends, free somebody from girlfriend aggro.

00:58:07 Wo ist Reload? Das ist eine gute Frage. Wo ist Reload? Was ist Reload? Das ist eine gute Frage. Vielleicht hat jemand gesagt, Retired oder D&D. Er hat er, er hat er, er hat er auf Planet 7. Oder er hat er einen anderen Spiel. Ich weiß nicht. Es gibt so viele Optionen. Aber ich kann nicht sehen. Es gibt Championship-Level Yapping in Local. Ich kann sagen. Es gibt Championship-Level Yapping. Das sind zwei Top-Level Teams.

00:58:36 Yeah, Smack Talk has definitely been at least trained to level 4. I don't know if we'll see it to level 5, but we will at least hopefully maybe see at least maybe a level 5 worth. Zealous, everybody asks where Reload is. Nobody asks how is Reload. Well, I hope Reload is okay, wherever he is. Why is Reload? Very good question.

00:59:05 von Wingnot? Ja, wer weiß. Das ist Level 5. Jeder hat die Max-Skills auf Thunderdome. Greybill, du bist absolut richtig. Das ist wahr. Jeder hat Full-Skill-Points, so es ist kein...

00:59:23 Taking into account the skill point disadvantage and things along that nature. Oh, we have it trained up to level 6 now. I thought we were limited to 5. Unless CCP has unexpectedly added 6 levels and things.

00:59:43 We do now have ships on grid. Finally. Let's go ahead. Oh my goodness. Well, it just took them a minute, but it's okay. Let's go ahead and send it over to the arena.

00:59:59 Alright everyone, welcome back to the arena. I am November, I'm joined here with Wingnut and this is the finals. This is final number one of a best of five series. We have the lazy piglets in red and we have rage sub cancel quit in blue. We're looking at an armor comp versus a shield comp and Wingnut, why don't you tell us what you can see here.

01:00:23 Well, it looks like Tuskers or Lazy Pickers have brought the exact same comp they were flying earlier, so we know exactly what's going on there. Meanwhile, the Raven comp is back. So... That's pink. That's very pink. Look at that Raven, that's very pink. There's a lot of ships right at zero here on the side of Rage Subcancelquit with just their scythe far away, so I expect to see they are going to be ramming their way in as fast and as hard as possible.

01:00:53 Yep, yep, yep. Just checking all the weapon systems, seeing exactly what I'm expecting to see. Except that is a Torpedo Raven, which is beautiful to look at. It is. The Torpedo is great because it gives you, unlike the other close-range weapon systems, it does give you some extra distance. You can be kind of far away, but I see links are going up. The timer is counting down, and we are just about to be underway.

01:01:20 I love the absolute loopy land we're living in, where Raven will be chasing a Hyperion. It's certainly something different. Alright, and we're off and racing. The Raptor, go! He's dying. Straight in. He has gone directly past... He was attacked by the Phobos, though, by it looks like. He looks like he was beelining for the Hyperion, of all things. He was not going for the Execura. He was trying to get the Hyperion down.

01:01:46 Yes, we see that they're slowly, the raven is making his way in, and torpedoes should be going out, and it looks like Melinda in the scythe is the target for the rage subcancel quit, and on the other side, they are all in on the Hyperion of Mira. Oh man, this is, I don't want to see a Hyperion go down, I don't want to see Mira's Hyperion go down, but they are all on it, torpedoes are going in.

01:02:12 This is going to be a brutal fire. They're trying to get rid of the scythe in the background as well. Yes. So here we can see the benefit of the Raven torpedoes, right? So even though he is far away, he's still able to apply maximum damage. And that Hyperion is going down very fast. Yeah, I'm not seeing any Logidrones on him at all. It's all DPS drones for Tuskis this time. Not a single Logidrone on that Hyperion trying to save him. They're trying to put DPS out on everything.

01:02:39 They are going to take down the Scythe, yeah. Maybe, maybe. Scythe goes down with the Hyperion immediately as follows. Is that a trade that's worth it? That's the question here. Now we can see if they're able to catch something else, though, in their rush comp and apply damage. It looks like the Raptor of Zordium is going to take some damage here, but... Raptor's already going to be exactly a hard tackle. Yes. Jason Orson is next in line for damage here.

01:03:07 Oh, no, no, no, Tuskers, no, why are you doing this? This rush comp with a Torpedo Raven rushing in. That Raptor's dangerous, man. If they lose the Prophecy Navy, they're not going to have much left in the way of damage, and it looks like this one is swinging very, very hard to Rage Sub at this point. Yeah, that Prophecy Navy is going to tank for his life, but he's going to go down. There's nothing he can do about this. He is super hard tackled.

01:03:35 The Phobos is trying to do some work in the background as well, but there's just not much that can be done here. The Raptor does go down, I think. Yeah, I mean, he's done his job though, right, at this point. Although it looks like he's running. He's running for his life. He's trying to get away. He did very, very well, because yes, he just let go of the tackle of the Execura, but in doing so, he told his Stalk to go in there and maintain the tackle. So even though he lost the tackle of the Exec, the Stalk is now holding it down too. Very well done. We see Jason dipping into structure now.

01:04:04 Und ich denke, dass das passiert ist, es ist sehr, sehr schwer für die Lazy Piglets hier in Match 1. Ja, und der Foe-Boss ist gerade bei der Foe-Boss auch. So, als die Prophecy-Navie geht, der Foe-Boss wird next sein. Oh, er ist jetzt nicht so gut, er ist jetzt nicht so gut. Wir sehen hier auch eine interessante Sache, die die Rush-Comp hat, die Logistik hat, in der hopes, dass sie einfach nur durch mit Raw-Damage können und nicht zu worry about es.

01:04:33 Yep, exactly that. Normally you see Torpedo Ravens with Carries for support, but they didn't even bother with that. They went for a hyena for support, not a Carries. But they didn't even bother, they went for Carries instead. So they're doing very well here, but that Phobos is about to go down, and with that, that's the last hope this comp has. Yes, there's no damage left here for the lazy piglets, so now it's just going to be a slow grind, I think, unless they choose the honourable way of exiting the arena, but we shall see what happens.

01:05:00 One can hope, but yeah, this comp got entirely decapitated, like headshot removed and start cutting down the body. That is a brutal way to go down. They got in there fast. And again, that shows like the Raven, like even he doesn't need to be directly on top, you know, anywhere within about 40 kilometers, he can still apply his high damage ammunition. So there it goes. And that is the end.

01:05:26 Match one goes to RageSubcancelquit. We will be back shortly for the first match in the playoff for third. But with that one done, we'll send it back to the Dead City.

01:05:59 Farmer's Bar could be anywhere.

01:06:28 And with that, of the first best of five for this round, we see a surprise as the lazy piglets got a little lazy. Honestly, rip a lot of points. I'm a...

01:06:55 Big tear, big sad for me. But Lemon Eater, you noticed something kind of right as the match was getting really good. The Exec- Execuer? Execuer? Execuer? Execuer. I can't say the shit very well. That thing was tackled away from everybody else by their command destroyer of Rage Sub Cancel Quit. Kind of, how was this important and the use of a command?

01:07:25 So we need to consider that in this format, the command destroyers are a lot of times only there for links. And that Stork in particular is only there to link its buddies up. It doesn't actually have any significant damaging capabilities. So after that Raptor, which is their fast main tackle ship that has amazing tank and also can heat to 8k meters a second.

01:07:51 Die Stork haben die Stork mit den Stork verabschieden, um die Stork zu verabschieden, um die Stork zu verabschieden, um die Stork zu verabschieden, um die Stork zu verabschieden, um die Stork zu verabschieden, um die Stork zu verabschieden, um die Stork zu verabschieden, um die Stork zu verabschieden, um die Stork zu verabschieden, um die Stork zu verabschieden, um die Stork zu verabschieden, um die Stork zu verabschieden, um die Stork zu verabschieden, um die Stork zu verabschieden, um die Stork zu verabschieden.

01:08:21 Ja, das definitiv hat sich in eine Format, um, wo es nur eine Lodgie gibt. Ich habe, wenn ihr euch in die Chat habt, um, jemand hat gefragt, wie es das Format-Tournament geht, um, wie es das Format-Tournament geht, um, aber die große Sache ist, um,

01:08:47 The rules that goes through this is only allowing... Goodness, let me find it. One T1 Logi Cruiser or a T2 Logi Frigate. So this takes into account that this is a 6v6 and...

01:09:09 Es ist wichtig, dass das into account ist. Das Scythe-Pilot, das Transversal auf das, das war Impressive. Ja, Melinda did ein sehr guter Job. Sie waren ein sehr guter und sehr guter Pilot. Sie kamen gegen dieses Gun-Comp.

01:09:34 Es war ein guter attempt.

01:10:03 From Tuskers, they managed to use the Hick to scram the Raptor right at the start, which was a really good effort at keeping that hype free and unscrammed, but the Raptor did eventually still get through. In general, I feel like this match might have been a little bit cocky from Tuskers here to allow this comp through, because we've seen RageSub play this multiple times to great success. They know exactly what they're doing with the rush. They know their target priority.

01:10:31 Und sie haben sogar Hyena gewandt, das ist eine Sache, die man nicht zu sehen, wenn man in eine Rush-Comp hat. Sie haben gesagt, bringe die Rush, wir machen es mit der Gun-Comp, und es ist ein bisschen ein Thema, ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob ob

01:10:50 And as we kind of led into this match, these are the two best teams in the tournament. They might have scrimmed against each other, I don't think. I'm not privy to that information. But it definitely seems they are prepared for this. They have taken the time to find all of the little niches that

01:11:20 They go, hey, we can use this in these rules and knowing. For lack of better words, they know they're shit.

01:11:33 The interesting thing moving forward for that series is going to be how they spend that fourth ban. Will they want to get rid of the Raptor? As they did against Whelp Drive. Will they want to ban out Raven? It'll be interesting to see what they do with that extra ban. Sorry, go on. Oh no, I was about to ask you. Going off of your Raven... Sorry. Wow, wrong ship. Raptor. There we go. Now I can English.

01:12:01 The Raptor in this tournament has had kind of a field day, honestly, and I'm surprised it hasn't been banned more. Can you kind of talk me through how it's kind of, you know, OP?

01:12:18 You can take this one, Lemon. Go for it. Yeah, I was just going to say, we have to keep in mind it's an interceptor that has a big bonus to its microwarp drive signature. And it has a bonus to overheating it, which is really big, because in the start of a match like this, we need to keep in mind that every single ship has a sensor strength, which determines how fast it can lock ships. So being able for the...

01:12:40 ...to overheat its MWD for the first cycle, plus having a really small sig, means that unless you're able to get a resi bow onto a frigate, which is hard because you have to keep in mind that that friendly ship now needs to lock the frigate in time. So it's very hard to get the tackle onto the Raptor before it's already up to 8km a second. And like we saw in this match, even though the...

01:13:02 Die Phobos, ich glaube es war, von Little Pigless, hat eine sehr gute Arbeit, aber es hat einen Hick-Scramm. Es hat die Speed und dann hat die Momentum gut genug, um die Tackle zu den Exek. Nicht Exek, sondern Hyperion. Es ist schwer zu stoppen, wenn es so viel Speed hat, und so eine kleine SIG macht es so schwer zu locken. So in einem Warpen wie das, wo der total difference ist 50 km, ist es schwer für die Little Pigless Team zu halten.

01:13:31 This is, yeah, accurate. It's a very hard to catch ship, and I wonder, you know, if they will take that into account. Next up, we do have Welp Drive Active versus Evasive Maneuvering. Another English-English-ing for me, but this is a best of three. Playoff, four, third, fourth match. So this will be...

01:14:00 Kind of interesting. These are the other best teams in the finales in this tournament, however you'd like to word it. But it does look like they have chosen, Wulptriff Active has chosen to ban the Gadan, the Sentinel, and the Arbitrator, Evasive Maneuvers, the Tholos, Hyena, and Scorpion. Baza, I'll throw this to you. What do you think of these bans?

01:14:30 I think we might see another rush come out, this time from Whelp Drive Active. They have banned core components of that sort of quite drone range control-y, kite-y kind of comp, and the Hyena is gone as well, which does mean, again, the carries is open, and if the carries is open, the carries does basically nothing against a rush. So I think this is prime for the picking for a rush here, for either one or both teams. Scorpion is also banned, which is really annoying to deal with as a rush.

01:14:59 And yeah, I think both these teams have played Rush before in this tournament, so we may see a Rush Mirror, we may see a Rush into something else, but I'm reasonably confident that at least one of these teams is going to Rush the other. Yeah, it definitely, they are taking into account the Tholos and the little bit of the OP, as today we have seen the Tholos be a popular ban as

01:15:30 Three of the last four matches have banned it. So, that'll be kind of interesting to see. But, Lemon, chat has evasive maneuvering up by about 16-ish percent, 58 percent. Wolf Drive Active is at 42. Who are you predicting is going to take the first match, and who are you throwing your points on?

01:15:57 Ich denke, ich habe zu agree mit Chat, da. Ich glaube, dass Evasive Maneuvering ist, die ich meine Punkte auf würde. Und ich denke, dass sie was sie brauchen. Ich denke, dass diese Bans, in meiner Meinung nach, werden sie versuchen, dass sie eine Kite-Kite-Type-Komp haben, weil ich glaube, Banning Tholos Hyäne ist, dass sie eine Tholos Hyäne rutschst, wo sie versuchen, dass sie sich von ihnen getrennt, und dann Tholos umpottet. Und ich denke, dass sie die Capabilität haben, dass sie diese Types-Komp haben. Also, ich bin eher auf Evasive.

01:16:28 That is fair. Personally, I don't know, but this is a choice I have put in my points on Whelp Drive Active.

01:16:40 Especially with the match previously, where Evasive Maneuvering against Rage Subcancel quit. I don't know if maybe... Let's see if they've got it in them. Let's see if they can keep momentum and keep that morale up. I hope those fireworks did something, but we will see. Baza, who are you throwing your points on? I think I would go for Whelp Drive Active. They didn't get too owed in their semifinals.

01:17:10 Unlike Evasive Maneuvering. And they did go very close with Lazy Piglets in that third match, as we saw earlier. In fact, I'd say they were leading at a certain point in the match for the first half. So definitely a really competent, capable team. Definitely capable of winning this matchup. So I'm going to go with Welp Drive Active.

01:17:29 Yep, it does look like the teams are getting ready. We still have a little bit to wait. We see Goodluck have funds in Local. So hopefully this will be a nice clean match. And just from chat, somebody asked if there's Marauders. No, there is no Marauders. Most of this is T1 Battleship? T1, some T2s.

01:17:56 Um, I went ahead and re-posted up the, uh, the rules there. Um, but Navy, Tech-1 Battlecruisers, Tech-1 Battleships, um, and there's occasionally, like, a T-2 Logi Frigate, um, some T-2 Assault Frigates, Interceptor, E-War, stuff along those lines, with the ships that are banned in the format.

01:18:23 Das ist warum man nicht sehen einen Cenotaph in dieser Format ist, wo man die Tholos ist ein wirklich hart, fast Bann für viele der Matches wir haben gesehen. Und es ist einfach, kind of, forcing die Teams zu cook mit einem wide variety und zu sehen, was sie können. Ich weiß nicht, die Cenotaph, ich weiß nicht, ob jemanden zu finden.

01:18:56 Oh my goodness. That in this format would be so deadly. I would really hope that if it did happen to be allowed in AT, I would hope it would only be the Tholos and not the Cindergap. But with that, it does look like the teams are ready, so let's throw it over to the arena and let them get this match started.

01:19:29 I see two comps that are basically exactly the same, sitting on top of each other at zero. So I expect that this one is going to go very, very quickly. The only difference here is that Welp has bought Akari's.

01:19:57 Whereas Evasive Maneuvering has brought a Raptor, which may come into play later. However, at this point, he doesn't really need to do anything to tackle anyone. Yeah, so I'm looking at this. The one with the carries, that Raven is fitted with Cruz, but still warped at zero next to a Raven who is fitted with torpedoes. This is going to be an absolute brawl, and it looks like starting at zero with Cruz may potentially be a very fatal flaw.

01:20:23 Do you think that that was on purpose or do you think that that was a mistake? I think he was on purpose. They were planning to shoot against a kiting comp, right? Like maybe a Hyperion kite. So warping at zero gives you the best range. I don't think he realised there's going to be a Torpedo Raven saying hello. No, no. If he doesn't... Well, links are going up. I guess we're about to find out. But if he doesn't make some range very, very early on, things could go very sideways very quickly for him. Well...

01:20:54 Und hier wir gehen, wir sehen uns werfen. Surely sie gehen für Chabak, und sie gehen für den Cyclo-Fleet, oder? Sie gehen für den Cyclo-Fleet neben dem? Der Auspray warped in Zero. Ich habe nicht gehört, dass die Auspray warped in Zero warped. Okay, well, goodbye, sir. Ich habe nur gedacht, dass er es warped in Zero warped in. Goodbye. Both teams are trying to...

01:21:17 trade Ospreys hier, although the team that is all hams and high damage definitely has the advantage there, is he is immediately deleted. Hey guys, don't worry, I'm just warping my Osprey at zero, right? Nothing could go wrong. Well, this is going to be very quick and brutal. The other Osprey is being hit with cruisers, but unfortunately he can actually pull range and have the carries then damp off at least one or two of the ships.

01:21:40 Yes, he's definitely moving all the way out to the edge of the arena here. On the other side, though, Nappa in the Cyclone fleet is primary for the high damage of evasive maneuvering, and he is not long for this world. He's doing his best, but he dips into structure. This was not lost on fleet comp. This was not lost on draft or bands. This was lost on warping in at zero. Yes, yes, yes. They made a choice.

01:22:08 uh they gambled they rolled the dice and they did not win well they're now going for the raven they did get the lodgy so respect to chadwick there and his team they did actually manage to uh shoot down the lodgy but unfortunately they are now being absolutely pounded yes yes he's not long for this world once he goes the onyx is the only damage left uh they are switching they're trying to

01:22:33 Shoot Alexander here in the Cyclone Fleet issue, but it is too little and much too late, I think, at this point, as Chadwick's Raven is half-structured, and there he goes. Yep, yep. Goodbye, sir. Thank you for showing up. Yeah, that was... This is a playoff for third, a show match. I will say this is one hell of a show to watch. Yes, it's certainly something. Not what I expected to see.

01:23:01 When I saw two ravens at zero, one of them would be cruise fit. Papyro in the onyx is also gone. We are down to just the caries and Alexander Chorigan in the stalk. He is making his move to the edge of the boundary. However, the raptor now finds his use and has him tackled. And he is also going to disappear. And then it's just down to the working class man in his caries.

01:23:30 He's making his move, he's angling for the edge of the arena, but the raptor is chasing him down and he is much too fast.

01:23:54 So the working class man is now tackled. It's really just a matter of time until that big blob of drones that is flying towards him catches up and he will probably not make it out of the arena. He's still trying. He's at 100. He's got 25 kilometers to go, but I don't think he's going to make it. No, he is not. The drones have now caught up with him and he is gone. Yep, the working class man has been taxed and he has been removed. And now let's go back to the studio and see what they think.

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01:25:29 And with that, a 50-50 matchup between Evasive Maneuvering and Whelp Drive Active on the channel points, with Evasive Maneuvering taking the first win. Um, I would know. I lost my channel points again. Goodness, apparently they don't seem to like me. Um, that Warpen, um, I don't think I have enough words to talk about it, but, um, Baza!

01:25:57 Give me your thoughts on it. I say it every tournament, and I love saying it. If you're going to warp at zero, you have to be sure you have the rushiest rush to have ever rushed. And when you look at these two comps, Whelp Drive Active did not in fact have the rushiest rush to have ever rushed. They had a slightly less rushy rush, and then they got counter-rushed, which is a bit of a mistake to not account for the fact that the opponent...

01:26:24 is also capable of bringing a rush and rushing you, and then you get rushed. So yeah, that was quite a quick one, as we saw. Lots of DPS, not much else. Like Compositional Differences, one team bringing the Raptor, which is excellent for a rush, one team bringing a Carries, which is slightly less rushy, one team bringing Torp Raven, one team bringing Cruise Raven. Yeah, overall it's just a lesson, and you've got to be sure that you're...

01:26:52 Ja, für sure.

01:27:06 Lemon, your thoughts on that plus the torp versus the torp and all the different choices of ammo that they choose to bring. The other ones, yes, thank you. What's the, how did that maybe impact this?

01:27:30 Um, I really don't know what to say here. I feel like warping in a cruise raven and a kite raven based comp at zero is not the play in any way. I guess maybe it was like an attempt to bait the enemy to think that they're like rush. But uh, I can't think of a place that'd be good. I feel like maybe like Welp drives FC's keyboard broke and he couldn't spell ham so he just dropped the A and wrote HM and then they pulled up in a heavy missile kite comp is like probably my best explanation as to what we just witnessed here is.

01:28:00 Yeah, I agree with that. Maybe they were trying to be a little baity with it, but honestly, I... That match confused me a little bit. I was just like, what am I looking at? And why did they warp in at zero? But, you know, that was a choice. They committed, and... Oh, goodness. Yeah, I think the issue as well with the Logi warp-ins, I mean, we saw...

01:28:29 Die Evasive Maneuvering Osprey Warp-In at Range. Und die Welp Drive Active Osprey Warp-In also at Zero. Das ist eine sehr interessante Wahl. Sie waren gegen Raptor auch. Und die Raptor, wir haben gesagt, dass wir den Raptor able zu Burn und get Tackle haben. Er hat nicht mehr zu Burn. Er hat einfach nur, als der match beginnt, Lock, Scram Web, das ist es. Ihr Job ist fertig. Ihr habt die Loggie. Good job. Ja, ich bin nicht sicher.

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01:29:43 But yeah, so next up we have the second match between the Lazy Piglets and Rage Sub Cancel Quit. Chat has Rage Sub Cancel Quit over Lazy Piglets this time at a 58% to 42%.

01:30:02 Basler, was können wir vielleicht sehen von diesen Teams? Es ist schwer zu argue gegen RageSubcancelQuit. Ich denke, sie sind jetzt auf eine 6-Win-Streak. Sie sind absolut auf die Banns hier auf der Banns. Wir sehen, dass RageSubcancelQuit stuck mit ArbitratorSentinel. Sie haben die Hyena örtet, stattdessen zu banen die Crucifire. Sie haben alle TDs und GDs geöffnet. Interessant ein paar Banns.

01:30:30 Lazy Piglet's banning Scorpion Tholos Typhoon, as they did before, and spending their extra ban on the Celestis, which is a very interesting choice. Very interesting choice. So the carries is still open. The Hyena is open this time. The Celestis, not a ship that we've actually seen either picked or banned all that much, especially when if you bring a Celestis and the enemy brings a carries, the carries will lock your Celestis first and generally win that war. Yep. Yeah, unusual one. Teams have...

01:30:59 Teams have chosen to usually go with the carries over the Celestis, just from the noticing I've seen. I have seen it banned popularly, but it's not the most popular E-War ban. I think that would probably go up with the Hyena.

01:31:18 But this definitely is... They're banning a lot of the Ewor. And with them banning... With the Lazy Piglets banning the Scorpion. Lemonator, what do you think we might see kind of just from the history of these two teams? From the fact that Lazy Piglets is... I don't want to say on a losing streak, but they're...

01:31:43 Ich bin ein bisschen behind so far mit RageSub-CancelQuit. Und RageSub-CancelQuit ist auf fire. Was sind Sie auf das? Ich persönlich denke, ich sitze mit meinem Lazy Pigletz-Prediction über RageSub. Und ich denke, dass sie nicht zufrieden sind, dass sie nicht zufrieden sind, sondern zu werden, dass sie einfach wieder zurückkehren und zurückkehren. Und ich denke, dass diese Banns-Change...

01:32:09 oder ich denke, dass Wraithsub eine andere Art von Comp bringen. Ich denke, dass sie etwas sehr Height-Heavy bringen sind. Und ich habe meine Speculationen auf welchen Ships sie bringen. Ich denke, dass sie ein Long-Range Projektion-Modell-Ship bringen.

01:32:30 So, taking the bans, taking what we've seen before, taking the fact that we started really hard in Octo as feeders, and we've kind of, I don't want to say, rolled the wheel back to the complete opposite side, but kind of with the meta changing, do you think that any of these might be trying to get in their head, Baza?

01:32:55 Um, I'm not sure. I mean, every ban that you do is trying to get in the opponent's head to some degree, and it's always a little bit of educated guessing about what the enemy's going to bring. I do think the comps that will be fielded will be different from last match. I think with Hyena open now, it's going to be very, very risky to bring a rush, and Tusk is known for bringing prolific Hyena users. So it is, I think it's unlikely that Rage Sub will rush them again, and maybe that's why Lazy Piglets

01:33:25 um didn't opt to ban the raptor or something they thought okay they're probably gonna go back to td bands i think one of these teams again is likely to play some variant of octo um you did mention about the meta sort of shifting how we saw lots and lots of octo the first weekend and it's kind of tilted a little bit but um i think it's still a really strong comp um there were a lot of weaker variations in the first couple first couple days of teams not knowing what the best variant was i think these teams have sort of agreed the best one generally is

01:33:53 Hyperion Prof Navy. But then there's always avenues for, not Rock, Paper, Scissors, but slightly different strengths and weaknesses in a conf. So if the Prof Navy's banned, you might want to bring a Brutix Navy. But it has a little bit less range. So you're saying we're going to see Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard Spock? We're going to see Rock, Paper, Garnier.

01:34:20 For sure. And Allie making the comment that they are super, super happy that we have these two teams in the final. They have been doing absolutely fantastic, with a fantastic record through this. And taking, Baza, what you said, we have had Shockto, Shield Octo, we've had Arcto, or Armor Octo, we've had people try new...

01:34:47 was wirklich heavy in the feeders. So I'm really curious to see what we might see. Lemon, they have a lot of kind of choice with what battleship they can bring.

01:35:17 What do you think, what vibes is this giving you? Mutrated? Almost got caught. I feel like the ban of the Arbitrator, Sentinel, and Crucifier here are, I think, suggesting that they want to play a long-range battleship such as the Rock or Hyperion, which are both, when fitted with rails,

01:35:48 Ich glaube, dass die Abaddon nicht die Abaddon haben, wie wir auch sehen, wie ein Popular-Pick haben. Ich denke, dass sie das RB-Sentinel-Crisi-Band haben, weil sie in einer Weise, Weise, oder Form wollen sie Tds landen auf ihren Schiff. Ich denke, dass sie irgendwo in der Kampf haben, dass sie etwas zu tun haben, oder vielleicht Jams, die sind eher last seen. Although die Banning der Scorpion macht es schwer zu bringen, aber ich glaube, dass das Raid-Subs play hier ist.

01:36:17 Pazza, was would you think would be Lazy Piglet's choice of battleship here?

01:36:23 Again, I think they're likely to go for one of the prime gun battleships, which is likely to be the Hyperion or the Rock, as you said. Or they could go for one of the kite battleships, which is probably the Raven as the Typhoon is banned. I think we'll probably see one of those three battleships, if not two of those three battleships. I maybe would lean away from the Rock and the shield gun spam comp, because with all the TDs banned, but the carries...

01:36:52 Und mit den Mordlust. Aber mit den Käris open. Aber mit den Käris open. Du kannst ziemlich confidently kommen gegen einige Damps. Auf einer Seite oder der anderen Seite. Und wenn du in eine Shield-Comp hast, du kannst du für mid-slots schluss mit dem Tank oder der Projektion oder anderen Aspekt. Und wenn du nicht gegen die Käris bist, die Re-Seeboe und Local-Seeboe sind ein wenigstens. Also, vielleicht nach der Safer Option der Armour-Octo.

01:37:21 Yeah, it might be that we even potentially even see a mirror match. I do want to kind of point out the charity. It has gone up. So thank you to the people who have donated and Mike, the wonderful new player bus.

01:37:38 I love your stance. You would rather have donations go to the hospice and the charity? So absolutely. And just remember guys, up to 2,500 pounds will be matched by Jinton's work through the charity program that they have. So thank you to everybody who has donated, who's taken the time to look at the link, to look at the charity and see.

01:38:06 Und hier, über die Entirete der Tournament, warum es close to our hearts ist, warum es wichtig ist, warum es wichtig ist, warum es wichtig ist, warum es wichtig ist, warum es so viele Leute auf der Produktion und sogar auf der Teams ist. Und ich danke für alle die Donationen, die kommen durch. Es ist absolut fantastisch und heartwarming zu sehen.

01:38:29 But quickly, it does look like teams are starting to load in. So we're going to give them a minute to get them situated.

01:38:47 It does look like there is an issue with the arena. They lost a team somewhere, so it's going to take a moment, and we're gonna get that fixed. So, hey, the lovely parts of live doing a...

01:39:11 Having seen one of the comps, obviously to maintain festive integrity, I don't think we should say anything about that. So we need some elevator music to just play and please hold. Yep. Yeah.

01:39:30 Oh oft in chat saying this charity is also local to them. Local hospices need as much help as they can get. Amazing cause, absolutely for sure. Yeah, don't look behind the curtain. We're not allowed to, we're not putting bets out yet because of this. We are holding out, but apparently we lost a team again. We lost a team yesterday, Dirk.

01:40:00 Man. Goodness. I'm just happy to... Okay. I'm just happy to not be here. But so far... Lemon. I'm gonna throw this one to you and then we'll pass it to Baza as well. So far in this tournament.

01:40:28 What has been the most exciting, or the most crazy, or the wildest, as you would call it? I'm not sure what you'd like to call it, but the thing that stood out to you the most. What?

01:40:44 Can you talk to me about that? I've been finding the Abaddon's presence and what it has been able to do in this tournament sort of funny with how slow of a battleship it is. In so many games you see there's tackle on something or they're trying to get damage onto something and the rest of the team is already on top and then you see the Abaddon slowly walk in its chunky hull over to get damage on and I think that it almost feels like the match is being played in slow motion as you have to wait a little bit before it gets hitting heavily.

01:41:12 So I find that the Abaddon has been something that I've been goofing about a lot. But I also think that the presence of this interesting choice here of the Destroyer being either Command Destroyer or Attack, where I think the biggest choice we've seen is the Tholos. I think that it's very interesting to see this sort of decision that teams have to make between do we bring this overpoweredly high DPS Tholos or do we bring the Lynx? So I think that that's also a very interesting choice that we've seen.

01:41:43 Baz, wenn du was, was du sehr interessant hast? Ja, ich denke, ich habe... Ich weiß nicht was, was es war. Ich glaube, wir haben es auch gesehen, auf Stream, eine Schild-Control, mit Skorpion und Kitsun, um sich zu retten. Ich denke, es war Welp Drive-Activ, mit einem Tinker Osprey, mit einem Skorpion. Und dann ein Onyx und ein Drake oder so. Ein wirklich cooles Konzept, aber ich habe nicht wirklich gedacht.

01:42:11 I also wanted to shout out Magnet Schienengeschütz, or whatever the German, however you say it. Because they did something really interesting last week before they were eliminated, where they said, okay, you've got armor gun spam, that's a comp. You've got Tholos rush, that's a comp. What if we just take the Tholos and just put it in the gun comp? And then you've got an armor Tholos just kind of running around, getting dots and everything, doing its extreme damage. It doesn't fit the comp at all, sort of.

01:42:40 Ideologically, but it kind of worked. It just did so much damage that it kind of compensated for all the things that you lose by taking it. So, yeah, that's a really interesting one. I do see now ships are indeed landing on the grid from both teams, which is an advance on the previous situation. So, yeah. Let's head over shortly. It looks like they have found the missing team, and let's go ahead and let them get this kicked off and send this over to the arena.

01:43:11 Alright, welcome back to the arena. This is match number two of the finals between the Lazy Piglets and Ragesub Cancel Quit. Ragesub took match one in probably pretty convincing fashion. Why don't you tell us, Wingnut, what we've got this time around. Are you sure this is match two? Because it looks like match one. And they've done the exact same things as match one. Are you sure?

01:43:38 Oh, am I having deja vu right now? But yes, we have another Raven comp versus another Hyperion Rail Guide comp. So this time, I guess we will say... Last time we saw the Rush comp get on top of the Hyperion in short order and blow it up. This time, I guess we will see if Lazy Piglets are able to adapt to that and maybe prevent some of that damage coming in quickly. But I see Lynx are now up, and so we are about to be underway.

01:44:07 Ich denke, das ist, dass beide Teams verabschieden sind, eine für Brautal und eine für Devota. Also, sie haben ein bisschen eine Unterschiede von Opinion. Und look at das Raptor, man! Er hat nicht nur einen Trailer, er hat sich nur einen Trailer zu verabschieden. Und er hat sich schon wieder auf den Target zu verabschieden. Well done. Exor Doomi? Ich bin nicht, ob ich das richtig verabschiede. Well done. Also, die Stork went in und tackled as well, Debug. So, sie haben das Hyperion. Super hart zu verabschieden. Sie werden ihn nicht verabschieden. So, er ist bereits in trouble.

01:44:35 It does look like this time they've chosen to take a different approach. Instead of trying to kill Scythe, they are trying to shed damage by starting on the Cyclone of Demesis Kadesh. Yep, that seems like a potentially good idea. If you can get rid of some damage, that Execra, which is still being left alone, can hopefully hold the tank. But it's still looking pretty rough. Actually, I think the Devoter actually managed to hold the Raven, yeah!

01:45:00 Yes, the Raven's off. And yeah, and so this time around we can see that the damage coming in onto the Hyperion is much slower than it was in the first match, where they managed to get everything all in on top of it. He's still taking damage, but nowhere near as much. Yeah, so they forced the Raven now to engage the Prophecy Navy up front. The old bait Prophecy Navy is up front tackling down the Cyclone Fleet. There is a big ball of DPS and Logidrones around here.

01:45:26 Und ja, sie werden versuchen, eine Prophecy-Navy zu tun, bevor sie nichts mehr tun können. Es sieht auch aus wie die Scythe von Melinda ist hart-tackled, als auch, von der Devoter. So, es ist nicht weitergehen, und er ist gerade in der Mitte der Thick-of-Things, momentan. Der Hyperion ist langsam, langsam, um seinen Weg wegzunehmen, die er die Transversal und die Angle, die er braucht, um seine Damage.

01:45:52 It now is a bit of a race between whether or not the Prophecy of Jason Orzan or the Cyclone of Damascus Kadesh is going to go down first. Exactly, that is definitely a race. The legendary Jason Osrin, there might be a few guys mentioning that in chat. He's about to go in the hull, but the Cyclone Fleet is already in armor. Who's going to go down first? This is very close. It is, it is. It looks like they're going to go about the same time, probably. There goes the Prophecy.

01:46:19 Ist er nicht komplett gut, oder ist er zu gehen? Ich denke, die Hyperion hat die Projektion. Damaskus ist erneutig, und er geht so schnell wie er kann. Aber ob er oder nicht er kann die Reise kann, ist noch nicht zu sehen. Vielleicht ist er noch ein Schuss, vielleicht er geht.

01:46:38 Vielleicht. Oh, he might have actually. No, there he goes. Okay, you got him. That would have been brutal for him to get away in low hull. But there you go. Battlecruisers are down. Who goes next? So the Raven is still being tackled by the Devota. The problem is shooting the Devota feels very, very sad. But there's nothing much else in range of him as the Lazy Piglets team has managed to mostly push out away.

01:47:06 So now it really becomes a matter of...

01:47:28 Leer the Phobos off the Raven so that it can get in. Although the Hyperion is not that far away. He may still be in range. It's a little hard for me to tell at this moment, actually. I think he's either just in range or just out of range. Either way, he's still being held down by that Raptor who's doing amazing work. The Executor is still holding on too. The Hyperion could potentially win this brawl with the Raven now with the Executor backing him up with reps. Until the Exec goes down, of course.

01:47:53 Raven is trying to shed the Devoter Torpedoes into a Hick is kind of bad, although we see that Stu Miner is pulling away from the Raven at this point

01:48:11 Er, ja, he looks to be pulling away a little bit. And yeah, shooting into a Hick, not fun. Especially an Armour Hick. So he's not even getting the Sigbloom out of it as well. So, very hardcore. The Execura's still holding on. Look at the amount of Logidrones on him. Full flight of heavies and a full flight of lights, at least. Yes, on the other side, they are slowly, slowly chipping away at the Broadsword as he keeps the Exec tackled. The question is, can they outrun the Reptrones? And that is so many.

01:48:41 Oh, das ist ein paar Repträns. Das ist wahrscheinlich auch ein Ansel-Rep auf der Exec. Aber der Brawlhaut ist der Beste. Aber das ist das gleiche als Match 1, aber ein völlig anderes Ergebnis. Tusk ist jetzt in den Lied, um zu punchlieren his Brawlhaut. Es sieht aus, dass der Rapp just pulled aus der Hyperion ist. Er hat sich geändert. Er hat sich geändert. Er hat sich geändert. Er hat sich geändert. Er hat sich geändert. Er hat sich geändert. Er hat sich geändert. Er hat sich geändert. Er hat sich geändert.

01:49:11 He's not doing much. Raptor now chasing down the carries. I think the Raptor could potentially even just kill him solo. Raptors have a good amount of damage when they use it. And yep, tackles the carries, but he's now pulling off of that as well and moving up to... I don't know. Looks like he's going up to the Devoter. So the Stork of Debug has the Hyperion tackled again. He's moved all the way out to the edge of the arena, and he's now just applying damage.

01:49:39 Uh, it looks like across to the, um... What's he shooting at? The Raven is taking some damage, so I'm going to assume it's currently the primary, but... Yeah, I think so. With two damage ships left on the side of the Lazy Piglets to one damage ship on the side of Rage Sub, this one is going to be...

01:50:00 Pretty challenging, particularly if the Raven can't get rid of the Devota, and he has done no damage to him currently, so it's not looking like that's going to happen anytime soon. That Devota is doing amazing work there. Keeping that Raven locked down for most of this match, with Logidrones on him now as well. I think Tuskers have managed to pull this one around. They lost the first match to this exact same comp, and have managed to win it the second time. It's all about the execution, baby.

01:50:26 Ja, es wirklich zeigt, dass sie, wie gesagt, was falsch ist, in der ersten Match war, und sie konnten eine sehr, sehr quick adjuste, um das Raven zu halten, und nicht zu lassen ihn, und zu sitzen auf dem Hauptpunkt, der Hyperion, der Hyperion.

01:50:43 uh if you can't apply your heavy damage all of a sudden things look very very different for the rush comp so it looks like the lazy piglets are going to be able to bring this one back maybe although we do see mirror now taking some damage so it appears that the raven has managed to slow boat into range of his torpedoes i'm not sure if i just imagined that or if that was just a different action but i swear the raptor is attempting to bump the raven

01:51:09 ...to maybe get him into range? Yeah, he's doing it again! The raptor's trying to bump the raven into range! What a world we live in! I think the laws of mass does not work there at all. Hey, it's worth a try, right? It looks like Hyperion has managed to...

01:51:28 He's still in Rage, he is still taking damage, but the Raven is now about to go into structure, and once that happens, it is all over for Rage Sub, and that is going to tie us up at one apiece in this final series. This Raptor man, he could have been absolutely linchpin for this, he tackled a lot of ships during this, but unfortunately Tuskers were ready for that and just kind of accepted, okay, we're going to be tackled, don't worry about that, we'll tackle the right ships and make that tackle mean nothing here.

01:51:58 So, there goes the Raven. We're down to just the Raptor and the Stork. Exordium is making his move to the edge of the arena. He's zooming out there. Hold on, he's just beacons. He might be going for the record. Hold on, he's got the speed. Can he do it?

01:52:19 I don't think he got the jump off. No, he did not. And now Debug is making his play and he goes down. Well, with that one done, that ties us up at 1-1 in this final series. It's very exciting, but that was a very strong win for the Lazy Piglets. And with that said, let's send it back over to the desk for their take on this match.

01:53:37 Ich habe F***ing Lader, ich habe Galente und ich habe ein MR, und ich habe ein extra Slot! Ich habe F***ing 6 Mids!

01:53:59 Um, man, that was a fun match to watch. The bumping, that Raptor with a 128km attempt at Arena Boundering, which is not the longest, but it was a nice, fun try. Baza, I'm gonna throw this to you first. These rematches...

01:54:29 The vibes are vibing. What's going on with this? It's absolutely wonderful. This was a really fun rematch. We saw both teams. I mean, just the whole theory of it all was wonderful. From the bans, so RageSub not banning the Hyena this time. Just to sort of test the waters. They're going to bring Rush anyway, test the waters. They're not going to ban the Hyena. You can take it if you want. Seeing that Piglet still take the carries. So that in itself is really interesting. But then when they land on Grid,

01:54:59 um um the gameplay um adjustments from both teams um from piglets so their warpins they warped in a little bit closer um on the on their hick i think and on the prof navy they did better screening but just as just as a sort of general comment i think when you when you have these um rematches of the same comp that you've played before i think it favors the team that lost the first time because it's easier for the team that lost to see what they did wrong

01:55:27 So Tuskers clearly said okay, this is what we did wrong in the first set.

01:55:55 Und sie haben es, sie haben wirklich gut gemacht.

01:56:00 Ja, und was ein matcher das war. Das war absolutely phänomenal. Leman Eater, all das auf dem Devoter. Man, er hat sich zu bewegen, zu arbeiten. Talk zu mir über das. Ja, so der Devoter hatte ein Scram und Hick-Scram-Fit, das war großartig, weil es um zwei Targets hat. So, whilst es war in eine nice, kleine Tango-Dance mit dem anderen Hick, es war auch able, um die...

01:56:28 ... und die Raven, die war großartig. Und die Raven war die größte DPS. Das ist, glaube ich, das große Switch-Up, die Tuskers gemacht haben. Als opposed zu versuchen, zu schreien die Raptor und so. Die Raptor ist nicht wert, oder es ist wert, sehr wenig. Wenn die Raven nicht da zu kommen, mit den Torpedos. Das ist, glaube ich, das Spiel, die sie hier gemacht haben. Sie hat die Torpedos gemacht. Und sie hat ihn in eine gewisse Position, wo...

01:56:55 Raid sub was thinking they can't get the DPS on top of things, and it forces them into having to shoot the PNI there, and PNI can get very good resists, so even if you're not bait tanking it, which I doubt it is here, it still is able to just have really good resists that can help it tank a lot and get a lot done.

01:57:14 Ja, und ich denke, das ist etwas, dass wir uns viel Spaß haben, weiter zu sehen. Wer nimmt es, wer wird es, wer wird es 3rd, 4th und 2nd. Ich habe gesagt das in Ordnung, aber... Aber ich denke, mit dem, ich werde die Bands real quick hit.

01:57:41 With Wolf Drive Active and Evasive Maneuvering, they are banning the Typhoon, Geddon, Sentinel, and Arbitrator for Wolf Drive Active. As they lost, they get the extra ban. Evasive Maneuvers is banning the Tholos, Hyena, and Scorpion. With that, I will just say that thank you from all of us at the desk. With Without Cats...

01:58:07 Thank you for hanging out with us. This will be the last match for myself, Basilisk, and Lemon Eater. With everybody with cats. So we'll say thank you for coming. We'll pass it on to Chad after this match. And have a good afternoon. Send it over to the arena. Hopefully it's a banger.

01:58:29 Banger indeed, because both teams have learned their lesson. No one warping at zero this time. Both warped in at range, but we have a pseudo-mirror? Close an idea, different in execution. Yeah, the one difference here, the comps are basically the same. Carys, Magus, Augur, Phobos, Prophecy Navy. The one difference here is the battleship that they've chosen.

01:58:51 The Abaddon puts out more damage. The Hyperion has more range. So I think the... Excuse me, sir. There's a difference in the Hicks as well. I'm sorry, I had to do it. Sorry, you got me there. I was so worried about the battleships that I... Yes, the Phobos projects better. The Vota tanks harder. So it'll be interesting to see if they can...

01:59:18 Keep the Abaddon far enough away that it can't apply its damages. Unless it has beams. I did not check, but that is the one difference. Don't ask me to look, okay? I can never get large lasers correct. Every time I look at them, I get it backwards, I swear. It's alright. I guess we will wait for the match to be underway and we'll tell if he can hit from where he is, then it's probably beams. If he can't, then it's probably beams. You can tell by the colour.

01:59:46 So, but yeah, they started far apart. They're almost at diagonally opposed warp-ins here, although it does look like the evasive maneuvering team is slightly further out. They're all at 50, whereas the welp-drive team is kind of staggered between 20 and all the way up to 50, so...

02:00:14 Uh, wenn's our countdown? What's going on? Are we waiting for something? Oh. No, that's not what's going on. Someone has de-cloaked in the middle of the arena. That's not great. There we go. 30 seconds till match start. Beautiful, mate. Well, let's see who wins. Abaddon or Hyperion. Usually I would put the Abaddon in this, but the Hyperion is basically playing the Abaddon's game here.

02:00:43 Okay. Alright, links are going up. We are getting ready to get this one underway. Let's see if it can get all squared up or if it will be the end of the third place final series. And here we go.

02:01:02 Both teams are going to get damped out to hell with these carries. And automatically, yep, the carries of Yachtina? Oh my god, that name is so painful to read, let alone trying to say. But they are always dead, they're getting wrapped up, but that is so close, he loses somehow, is he going to go down? He's catching. It looks like maybe... It looks like maybe he's managed to pull range. He's caught for now, he's caught for now, they need to change targets. Meanwhile, Vega in the Augur has been...

02:01:31 Already being punished. He is moving. He does. He's also moved all the way out to the edge of the arena here to try and shed some of the damage. The Hyperion though just has a lot of range and it's really able to hit almost anywhere in the arena. They've given up trying to kill Yatina in the carries now and they've swapped onto Skykiller Russian.

02:01:58 He is dipping into armor. We'll see now if Mr. Keps can get in there and pull him back. On the other side, damage is splitting. They've swapped off the Augur mostly, and it looks like they're trying to kill Alexander Churrigan in his Magus, as well as Working Class Man in his caries. Damage is kind of spread around at the moment.

02:02:23 Yes, they're looking a bit unsure what to do. Meanwhile, the opposing team has no such qualms, and is currently beating Skykiller Russian's Prophecy Navy into the dirt. That was a very tanky ship going down way too quickly. Yes, he was tackled by Alexander Turingon in the Magus, and it looks like that is going to be enough to get rid of one of the battlecruisers. Meanwhile, they're hoping, it looks like, to trade for Vega in the Augura.

02:02:52 But he is not dying fast and losing the Prophecy Navy really kind of reduces the incoming damage that they have.

02:03:01 Also add a bit of respect to Vega as well. He could have been burning away and running for his life trying to save himself, but he is staying in range to rep his friends, while at the same time trying to not die and sustain his life. It is hard to break the urge to just leave and try and get repped up and come back in. Because if he had done that, they might have lost a bunch of their small ships. So the fact that he's staying there and repping everyone while also being shot is masterclass and well done flying there. We can see both of the lodgies here.

02:03:30 Mr. Keps, my man, no. Vega has a fleet of Red Drones following him around, although there goes Mr. Keps and it did not matter. He's just gone down. Well done to the magus, by the way, of Alexander Turingen. Went in for the tackle, got the Augur held down, and now this team is going to fall apart rapidly.

02:03:55 Yes, with their carries gone, there's no way to damp out the projection, which means that the Prophecy Navy and the Abaddon and the Phobos can all shoot across the arena. So we can see that the Abaddon is slowly, slowly making his way towards Pandey. Once they can get him tackled, then we see the Magus of Alexander Chorrigan making his move to tackle the Hyperion. Once that happens, then Chadwick can get in, he can load his high damage ammunition and...

02:04:24 We already see Pandy dipping into half armour. Yep. He's only got so much time to live here. Abaddon putting damage out definitely hurts. Megas go pop and yeah, well done. Seriously, this is very well flown by this team. Yeah, the execution was... They identified what they needed to do. And they did it. Killing the Battlecruiser early on really does remove...

02:04:49 A large portion of the damage that this comp has. Not just that damage and a potential extra tackle, as well as links. It is a lot of stuff lost in one move. In one ship, yeah. So him being tackled. There was a big play by Alexander Trojan in the Magus to make that tackle. We see Pandy dipping into structure. Now we find out if it's a structure tank Hyperion. I don't think that it is.

02:05:15 Ja, das wäre sehr lustig. Ich würde mich absolut auf meine Absoluten Ars if ich sah das. Aber Alexander geht in für die Tackle und Hyperion, auch. Weil, für einmal in EVE, der safest place für ein Ship wie das zu sein ist, ist direkt an der normalen Blaster-Fit Hyperion. Ja, ja, ja. Für die kleinen Shipps, zumindest, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in. Und du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in, du kannst in.

02:05:40 But he's dead now. One of my favourite things from a tournament way back in the day was watching a scythe basically beeline for an Abaddon, the opposing Abaddon, to try and get under its guns. Yes, we are. There's like, what the hell is going on moments. We had in some of our practices the last ship alive would be a broadsword orbiting in Abaddon at 500 as we counted down the timer and hoped that he could do the damage he needed. Ah, we see a beam.

02:06:09 Beem ist er zu machen für den MJD-Unit. Wir werden sehen, ob er kann da sein und seine Spiel machen. Wir fragen uns einen Juden. Salute, Beem! Vielen Dank! Wir sehen, wie weit du mit dem MJD bist, all right, Matty? Das war ein sehr, sehr, sehr...

02:06:31 Well executed match by Welp, that time, identifying targets that mattered, taking them out, and then shredding the evasive manoeuvring team with no loss. Well done, well done. And with that, we'll go back to the studio with our fresh set of analysts and host.

02:06:59 Das ist wirklich schlecht. Wir müssen nicht jemanden verlieren. Warp off. Warp off. Take the fleet warp. Everybody warp off. Das ist wirklich, wirklich bad execution. Ich bin sehr froh.

02:07:25 Crush our enemies. Your damps are completely damped out. Crush. I'm damped out. I'm damped out. Get on that chamber. Boys. Heat your hips. Yeah. Everything damped. I'm jammed.

02:07:58 Yeah, certainly.

02:08:27 In this format, we only have the T1 Logi Cruisers. We don't have the T2 Logi Cruisers. We don't have the Oneros. We don't have the Guardian. Both of those ships can survive very, very well. They have good capacitor, good ability to keep themselves alive. The Augur, the Exequer, not so much. The Cap is bad. The Tank is bad. And fundamentally, they're some of the most vulnerable ships on the field in this projection meta. So we've seen a lot of teams start off either trying to catch the Logi or, in this match,

02:08:55 We saw also trying to catch the E-War Cruiser. Especially if your opponent is fielding a T-1 Armor Cruiser Logistics, that E-War Frigate is extremely vulnerable because Armor Reps hit at the end of the cycle. So first, your Cruiser has to lock the carries. Then you have to get that button press. And then six seconds later, you are delivering Armor to your carries. And...

02:09:23 That whole process is going to take like 10 seconds. Possibly that's too late. So that's why we see the carriers dip into low hole. We've seen this a lot again and again. Inevitably, the logistics in this format, they're important, but they can be a bit of a speed bump.

02:09:39 Yeah, it definitely seemed to really show off who understands the T1 logistics and how it plays a role in their comp and how to really try to help it survive. With that being said, Misty, we saw some rep drones on one side versus maybe some other drones on another. Can you elaborate on why rep drones might have been a very good decision in that match? Yeah, so I think it's a nice extension of what Ali was saying around the T1 Cruiser and the Logi and the fact that there's a significant delay when it comes to

02:10:08 die Arma Reps cycletimes und so weiter. Eine Sache, die ich glaube, auch schon erwähnt habe, ist, dass die Neue in einem bestimmten Rahmen für Ihre Reps sehr effektiv sind. Der Vorteil von Rep-Drones ist, dass in den 60 Kilometern, die Sie auf die Target-Target sind. Wenn Sie eine Range-Bonus zu Drone-Control-Range mit Ihrem Ship haben, oder die Drone-Link Augmentar-Modulung, dann können Sie 80 Kilometern-ish machen.

02:10:34 auf ihr Freund, sie fliehen auf die Arena. Es dauert ein bisschen Zeit, aber wenn sie da sind, sie sind reppenstattlich. Sie sind sehr gut, speziell in Tournament Setups, wo es ein limitedes DPS gibt. Die Rep Drones können wirklich die Tech 1 Reps, die ihr aus der Augur. Es hilft, es hilft, es hilft, es hilft, es hilft, es hilft, es hilft, es hilft, es hilft, es hilft, es hilft, es hilft, es hilft, es hilft,

02:11:03 So, ich denke, es ist sehr gut zu sehen, Logi-Drones zu sehen. Es gibt auch einige Drones, wo man vielleicht eine Damage-Drones braucht, um die Logi-Drones zu stressen, die Logi-Drones ein bisschen mehr, um sie auf die Lower-Enden zu verändern, um sie zu verändern, um sie zu verändern, um sie zu verändern, um die Hyperion zu verändern. Wenn man die Drones auf die Magus hat, dann vielleicht die Magus zu werden, um sie zu werden, um sie zu verändern, um sie zu verändern, um sie zu verändern, um sie zu verändern.

02:11:32 Es gibt einige Prozesse, die mit dem Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dramatischen Dram

02:11:42 Ja.

02:12:10 So, what happened here is the Prof Navy, it all comes down to this, we're going to target the Logi. We're going to shoot the Logi, we're going to kill the Logi, we're going to get on top of it. The opposing Logi, of course, does not want to get shot. As we saw in that match, as we've seen in all the matches, the first thing that the logistics ship does is typically turn around and run away from the enemy team, ideally in a sort of angled fashion so you're not getting shot by the guns. You've got good transversal while retreating.

02:12:40 So, great, your auger, an opposing auger is going to run away faster than you're able to get tackle on it. That makes sense. So what do you do? Well, what if you just jump 100 kilometers in the direction of the auger? And so what we saw in that match is we saw the Prophecy Navy issue from evasive maneuvering jump 100 kilometers in the direction of the auger and keep firing. And that's what kept that consistent damage application on the auger. The problem with, well,

02:13:08 The advantage and the difficulty with the local MJD is it's just you that has it. So the Prof Navy had it, we don't know if the Abaddon had one as well, and a lot of these Hyperion Prof Navy setups were seeing the Hyperion and the Prof C, both with the ability to reposition themselves with a microjump drive. So the Prof Navy jumps, he's across the arena, he's way far away from his own friendly auger.

02:13:32 The rep range on an AUG is something like 50 kilometers, maybe plus a little bit. And then the opposing team just says, great, we'll shoot the Prof Navy. Yes, it's tanky. Yes, he tanked for a while, but it's not infinitely tanky. And so having isolated himself away from the Waji, and if you look, some of the positioning was quite good from...

02:13:56 der Team der Attacken war, dass sie in eine Position, wo es nicht einfach ist, zu einfachen, ohne ihn zu entdecken, ohne ihn zu entdecken. Und dann ist er. Und das ist die Down-Side der MJD-Play.

02:14:11 Yeah, something else to, you know, look into that is one team bringing a hype, one team bringing an ABBA. Most of the time the hype has seemed to do better in this format because of the MJDs, but because the Prav jumped into the backland, the ABBA didn't actually have to move that much to do damage to it. Being a slow ship that it is, it didn't have to, you know, shoot across the entire arena to actually kill that. Misty, is there anything that you think...

02:14:36 The evasive maneuvering teams could have done differently there to maybe position themselves better or get the W that they so desperately needed.

02:14:45 I'm not really sure. I think that the initial plays that we saw from the Welp Drive Active Team, with the attempt to headshot the carries, forcing it well away from the rest of his team and forcing the Augur to follow him, meant that the Augur was fair ways out of position for helping the rest of his team. It was, I think, the right play to follow the carries and ensure it remained alive, because the damps do play a significant part in setups and matches like these. But I think that the Augur perhaps could have turned in a little bit sooner.

02:15:14 Ich denke, wenn es um Matches wie diese gibt, gibt es kleine, sehr kleine Wände, wo, wenn man die richtige Wahl ist, dann wird es um etwas zu gewinnen. Wenn es um was, was könnte und was nicht gemacht hat, ich denke, es war WAP-DRIVE Actives.

02:15:35 Ich glaube, ich finde, die Wahl der Abaddon über die Hyperion hat, weil wir gesehen haben, dass die Abaddon eine Mainstay in den letzten tournaments ist, weil es einfach nur ein Brick auf dem Grid ist. Es sieht wie ein Brick, es Tanks wie ein Brick ist, wenn du es an jemanden, es geht wie ein Brick, dann ist es gut. Es funktioniert sehr gut mit dieser Rolle, aber die Use der Lasers ist, glaube ich, sehr wichtig.

02:16:04 Ich denke, es ist ein guter Damage-Type für die Ex-Equers, die Augurers, die Karies, für die Resist-Profile, die Sie mit den TEC-2-Valente-Ships sehen können. Und es tut auch sehr gut für TEC-2-Amarhe-Ships, wie Devotas. Ich würde die Abaddon mehr als Hyperion geben. Ich glaube, dass nicht viel Evasive Maneuvering hat. Sorry, zurück zu Ihrer Frage. ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

02:16:30 Short of, perhaps, target selection towards the very beginning. I think with a slightly different target choice and perhaps diving in a bit faster to try and maybe headshot the Augra and follow it when it was burning away, that may have given them a chance to win. But besides that, I don't think that there was anything else for them to do.

02:16:49 Basically, just come in and win. You heard it here, folks. Speaking of winning, we have a finals to talk about. And currently, that finals is a best of five, and it is a one-to-one tie. We're going into match three, so this will give an advantage to one team and put them on match points. This is a very important match in this finals. Both teams now having four bands due to the format here.

02:17:16 And the Lazy Piglets have chosen to ban Keres, Mollus, Celestis, and use that extra ban for a Tholos. And Rage Sub went Devoter, Phobos, Hyena, Sentinel. Allie, what do you think of these bans? So, first off, I note that Rage Sub have brought Rush two times in a row, and we see Hyena banned here. Devoter and Phobos also excellent bans.

02:17:42 if you don't want your Raven to get screened again. So Rage Sub bans to me scream, we're going to do it again. Just you watch. Lazy Piglets, all three damp bans, if the Hyena wasn't banned, that would open them up to bring the Hyena. The Tholos being banned, it's been such a powerful DPS ship in these rush comps, so it does sort of weaken that rush that Rage Sub has shown. Overall,

02:18:11 I am expecting, Rage is at least saying they're going to show up at Rush, with Rush. They might show up with something else. Lazy Piglets, if they read the Rush, I'm expecting to see some Missile Disruption, maybe. We see most of the Tracking Disruption, Missile Disruption, E-War is still available.

02:18:29 That was a perfect segue to what I was going to ask Misty. Misty, the Tholos is banned, and that does not seem like it is enough to stop a rush. It has done well in some of the rushes, but it does not seem like it is enough to stop it. With that said, do you think that Rage Sub is going to bring another rush? And I'm going to give you a second follow-up. Do you think that the Lazy Piglets, how are they going to utilize this Frigate slot with the Hyena being banned, then the Karyos Damalis and the Sentinel all being banned?

02:18:58 So I guess there's two different ways to answer in reverse, right? Thinking about what Lazy Piglets could bring. We do see the Raptor is still open. The Raptor has been a fairly strong ship for being able to quickly dive in and pin down the enemy that you want to get on top of. But we also perhaps don't mention enough that it is also extremely tanky. It is basically an assault frigate with...

02:19:20 Extremely good micro-up-drive capabilities. You can get it to about the same buffer as a Jaguar. You don't have the ADC, so it's a bit less survivable, but it still has the ability to fit two medium shield extenders and a scram if you wanted to. So the Raptor's a potential choice. You also have the kitsune still open. We have seen ECM be perhaps more of a mainstay in earlier matches, less so nowadays it seems.

02:19:44 Aber die Kitsune ist noch offen als möglich, um E-War in den Mix zu holen. Ich denke, dass wir sicherlich sehen werden, aber es gibt andere gute Spiele in den Mix. Du hast deine Destroyer Slots, du hast deine Frigate, wie Kurose, du hast deine Aschimus auch. Wir werden sehen, was sie machen.

02:20:10 Well, with that being said, both teams have landed on Grid. We are seeing some interesting Frigate choices and not a repeat of the last match. So I'm going to send it over to the arena to break down this upcoming match.

02:20:25 Welcome back to the Arena. I am CCPOverload, joined by Fear of Vina for this third in our best of five series. And oh boy, it is a Dramiel we see on field. Interesting, interesting decision from the Lazy Piglets series, bringing that Dramiel in. Of course, both teams bringing Shield here. We have Raven, Raven, so Mirror is there. But I think we're going to see a combination of one side bringing Rush.

02:20:50 Just like the desk predicted, you know, we're going to see RageSub cancel quick, bring another rush. They're right in a zero. And I think Laser Piglets are going to try to do some kiting. Fear, what do you think?

02:21:00 Ja, es ist ein Crews, Raven und HML Cyclone Fleet Issue von der Tuskers Co. Also known as Lazy Piglets. Rage Sov Camps will quit this time around. Das sind Hams, das sind Torps. Das sind die Rush thing wieder. Wir sehen die Onyx of Stu Minor playing Screen alongside die Strammule und Stork. Much wie wir in der letzten match, wo Tuskers warped in der Onyx und der Cyclone Fleet Issue. Sorry, Devoter und Prophecy Navy Issue.

02:21:29 Ja, es ist interessant, dass es den Drammiel zu bringen, aber es ist einfach nach dem Scythe.

02:21:58 Das ist ein guter Weg hier, weil das Drammiel wird ein paar DPS geben. Und ein Scythe ist ein Rode Bump, ein Speed Bump, auf der Weg zum Victory für dieses Team, wenn sie ihn unternehmen können. Der Wahl ist ein guter Weg, aber was ist das Drammiel? Aber was ist das Drammiel zu tun? Er kann wahrscheinlich solo den Raptor, wenn er ihn finden kann. Er könnte sich selbst set up zu counteren this Raptor-Rush, weil, natürlich, die Raven, die Torp Raven, wenn er auf den Topf geht, dann die Torpedos mit Torpedos, und sie machen viel DPS. Die Onyx?

02:22:27 Ja, er hat ihn gebraucht in order zu bekommen von Skorch in den Scythe, der nicht wirklich hat viel dämlich auf dem jetzt. Er ist bleeding ein bisschen. Demacis Kontesh ist jetzt der Primärer von...

02:22:40 Lazy Piglets, as Damascus Kadesh is currently painted, but not scrammed. The Broad Sword of Nicholas Kion is currently scrammed, while the Scythe is now Tackled, as well as the Onyx. Got a little web on it, but it's coming in and out of Tackle right now. So interested to see where they're going to pull the trigger from Rage Subcancel Quaid. It doesn't look like they've really had a great primary. They might be moving on to the Scythe now, as the Onyx tanked up so well with Scorch in that Scythe, keeping him up.

02:23:08 Yeah, we just saw Damascus Kadesh come in with his Fleet Cyclone to get secondary tackle on that scythe. He was being held down by the Raptor, who is being soloed by the Dramiel somewhat expectedly, but he did his job. He held down that scythe long enough for Damascus Kadesh to get in there. The Raptor is now going to go down. The Dramiel web scrammed as well. That's a good target to get rid of because that provides a lot of screening power. Now that they've lost their Raptor, if they can remove this Dramiel, the threat of that thing just running around and tackling people is going to be removed.

02:23:37 But meanwhile, Damasus Kadesh, no Lodgy, and is very low in shields right now, setting 4% shields remaining. So this actually looks really good for Lazy Piglets, as they should be 3 DPS ships to 2. As we approach the endgame, the Straymill will finally fall, trading some damage onto the Stork. But Damasus Kadesh, already in low armor, 13%, should go down here relatively quickly.

02:23:58 Ja, es ist zu sehen, dass die Lazy Piglets in ein bisschen mehr Kontrollen sind. Die lange ein Match geht, dass es Kite vs. Brawl ist, die mehr die Advantage schwingt über die Kiting-Team, als sie nicht machen können. Und die Piloten von Lazy Piglets sind great Piloten, sie wissen, was sie machen, in dieser Instanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanzanz

02:24:28 across the field and start firing them torpeys.

02:24:33 Well, I mean, as a matter of application, though, right, cruise missiles apply quite a bit better than torpedoes. So going towards this broadsword, which has a low sig radius because it's a hick, but still a shield hick. If it's got its hicks point up as well, it's going to have a sig radius increase as well. So, you know, these applications from the torpedoes of Toastbrot are not going to be as good on Jason, I think, as probably precision ammo coming in from mirror sheave and just HMLs applying very well to cruisers.

02:25:02 Yeah, I mean, nothing on the Rage Subcancel Equipment team is actually locked down right now. There's really only a paint on that Broadsword. Meanwhile, the Fleet Cyclone of Jason is just really locked. So, I don't know, maybe we should start to see some MGD plays here. I can see some, it looks like the Onix is making its way towards the Beacon in the middle, perhaps, getting ready to try and reposition. I think they need to do something here and try and clear off some more ships.

02:25:29 Importantly for testers, they fit this Cyclone Fleet issue with the local rep, so it was XLASB fit. And in this later stage of the match, as we see, the damage that's being applied from the Broadsword and the Raven just isn't pumping through that XLASB nearly well enough. The Broadsword's already in armor, and Jason Osran stayed alive long enough to clear this Broadsword, so really well.

02:25:49 Ja, ich denke, dass jemand wirklich die Pooch hier ist, wir werden sehen LazyPick clean up, die Stork und dann die Raven. Ich finde, ich finde, ich finde, das Drammiel pick.

02:26:17 RageSub, Cancel, Quit. Bring this Raptor, this just YOLO in Scram Things Raptor, and teams have struggled to deal with that. It's so fast. Eight kilometers a second. It can catch whatever it wants before you can really do anything about it. Bringing this Dramiel, and not immediately sending it after the Raptor, but doing the same thing and sending it after the Scythe first, and then sending it after the Raptor, I think is a really good move from Lazy Piglets here.

02:26:42 Yeah, I think we haven't seen a whole lot of pirate frigates in this event because that frigate spot has been mostly done by, you know, some teams taking this Raptor, but a lot of teams have been doing Ewar frigates. It's kind of difficult to remember sometimes that pirate frigates do a lot of damage, especially the Dramuel, right? And it goes very fast because it's an angel ship. So, you know, kind of in the Dramuel versus Raptor 1v1, I feel like despite being a pirate ship versus the Tech 2 Interceptor, I feel like the Dramuel probably just wins that 1v1.

02:27:11 every single time, because it does way more damage and goes nearly the same speed, right? Yeah, I agree. And also, just looking back at the bans, you can see Laser Pivot banning out pretty much anything to do with damps. Celestis, Keri, Mollus all banned out, and then that Tholos ban as well. So they wanted to sit at range. They didn't want to get their locks slowed down. They came into this with a plan, and I think RageSub canceled quick.

02:27:36 Telegraphing, they wanted to bring something Shield with that Devoter and Phobos ban as well. So Tosbrot's starting to go down now. This is going to be just the end of this match. Yeah, they've done other comps this tournament, but have really relied on the Shield Rush, so I'm excited to see what they're going to do for match four against Tuskers, who has now had the number of the Shield Rush two games in a row. With that, though, Tosbrot's going to go down, and we're going to send it to a quick break. When we return, the Dusk will break that down and bring us into the next match. We'll be right back after this.

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02:29:07 The Rushiest Rush that has ever rushed has been beaten. An interesting decision to bring that Rush with those bands and bringing it so often. Allie, would you like to elaborate on that maybe a little? Yeah, so before the match, I was taking a look at the bands and I was saying these bands look like they want to bring Rush again. But what I had privately hoped, well, and I think I said something like this, is that it was not...

02:29:30 Das ist eigentlich eine 3rd Rush. Das war ein sort of Mindgame, wo sie gesagt haben, wir haben einen Rush-Match-1, wir haben einen Rush-Match-2, wir haben unsere Bands für Rush-Match-3 und dann, psych! Es ist Armorkite. Oder es ist ein Octo mit einem VEDmacken, oder so etwas. Und ich denke, das war eigentlich viel mehr erfolgreich, weil wir hier sehen, dass Tuskers die Bands und sie gesagt haben, ich bet sie bringen Rush wieder. Und du wisst, Tuskers war richtig, sie waren bringen Rush wieder.

02:29:59 And Tuskers showed up prepared to defeat the Rush. They defeated the Rush quite handily. I hope they don't try to rush again. We will have to see.

02:30:09 Yeah, this is the finals. Mind games are a big part of actually your band selection. And it goes into it when you're playing Best Of series. Mind games go a long way here. And it seems like they were throwing some mind games out there. And maybe just mind gamed either too hard or too easy by just bringing a rush that they kind of telegraphed. And it just comes down to Tusker's got a good read there.

02:30:34 Misty, Tuskers brought a comp that actually kind of looked a little bit similar to the comp brought by RageSub. What was the difference there, and how did it really play out in that match? Yeah, I think the primary difference that we were identifying...

02:30:50 Two things. One was the weapon choice. So the fact that I think Mira had cruise missiles and Toast had torpedoes. Torpedoes are an incredibly high damage weapon system, which is why I think people are often drawn towards them. They see the number on paper and they're like, wow, this is incredible. This is going to break through so many tanks if I can apply my damage. And then the applying the damage part is often where people trip up, right?

02:31:14 Es ist eigentlich ein sehr kurzeres System. Auf der Raven ist es nicht so gut. Aber in generell, du musst dich zu der Target, die du hast. Das bedeutet, wenn du es schneller als du und du wirst, du hast eine viel reduziertes Range. Und du kannst dich nicht so gut apply. Mit Mirror's Cruise Missiles, für zum Beispiel, du kannst dich auf die Arena effektivieren, egal von wo du bist. Das nicht nur sollst du deine Damage an den Target, aber es gibt auch einen weiteren Safety Net. In der Sinne, du kannst dich auf die Arena sitzen.

02:31:44 So if you do notice that the enemy fleet is burning towards you, you have the ability to then MJD and maintain your range. So not only do you have the added benefit of being able to shoot stuff, but you can do it safely at range. I think the other key difference between the comps that we saw was the fact that

02:32:05 While we were correct about the Raptor showing up on grid as one of those strong tackle ships, the Dremiel was something that perhaps none of us were expecting because we don't often see the Dremiel much anymore, both on TQ and in tournaments. It is a very good, essentially like high damage tackle ship where it can burn in really quickly, it gets up to like 5.9 kilometers a second I think in this match, burns across the grid, gets on top of the ship.

02:32:33 Ich denke, es geht für Melinda erst und dann für den Raptor zuerst. Es macht, glaube ich, 200 oder so damage, wenn man die Drones mit den Drones macht, und vielleicht wenn man Heil macht, vielleicht mit Overheat macht. Das bedeutet, dass es sich um die Raptors getrennt, oder ob sie für die Kitsune getrennt.

02:32:53 dann wäre es ein sehr effektiver Schipf für die Kitsune durch die Gründe und dann mit dem Dammage zu bekommen. Ich denke, dass Dremiel die Dremel kommt in war ein sehr interessantes Wettbewerb, aber natürlich eine sehr interessante Wettbewerb, aber natürlich eine Wettbewerb.

02:33:06 Ja, es ist interessant du sagen das, weil der Raptor hat viel Arbeit für RageSub in diesem Tournament gemacht. Und es scheint, Tuskers, die Dramele zu tun haben, um die Scythe zu tun, die viele Leute bringen, weil es sehr fast ist, kann run away, kann move in und aus der Rep range, als es braucht. Und der Dramele hat gerade auf dem Topf, beat es auf, und dann went und eigentlich solo PVP'd, für den meisten der Raptor. Das Raptor, ihr wisst, dass das, ihr wisst.

02:33:32 Kind of showing Reach Up, we can utilize that Fast Frigate slot just like you. We have Cruise Missiles to help that Frigate really shine there. And the Frigate Choice, none of us expected it, and then it just actually kind of won them the match a little bit. I think some other things played a part, as you mentioned, but the piling in that Frigate really showed there. With that said, before we get talking about this next match, I'm going to bring up the Charity.

02:33:58 Vielen Dank.

02:34:23 And it's going a long way for the broadcast team, for Jintan, for other people in the chat that we have seen. So if you want to spam that charity and get some money in there, if you have some, that would be amazing. Every time we mention it, the numbers continue to go up. So keep spamming charity and keep spamming your donations. But that said, though, we have a very, very important match to talk about as the best of three has come down to the final match.

02:34:52 between Welp Drive Active and Evasive Maneuvering. The winner of this will be considered the 3rd place team in this tournament, and the loser will be in 4th. So there's some time to spend on this, as it is, like I said, an important match. With Welp Drive Active banning the Typhoon, Geddin, Arbitrator, and Sentinel, and Evasive Maneuvering banning the Scorpion, Karius, Mollus, and Abba. Misty, what do you think about these bans?

02:35:23 Ich würde sagen, dass einige sind ziemlich standard sind. Ich denke, dass die Keris, die Mollus, die Arbitrator, die Sentinels machte Sinn, aus dem Punkt, was die Teams nicht mehr sehen wollen. Die Sentinels ist ein guter Ship, während die Kruise of Fire ist vielleicht ein bisschen mehr Lacken, in dem Sinne, dass die Sentinels hat den Bonus von Neut zu bringen, und auch ein, glaube ich, etwas Tankier.

02:35:48 Es ist nicht ganz gut, denn es ist noch ein Elektronik Assault Frigate. Es ist nicht die Tankiest Dinge in der Welt, aber es ist mehr zu tun, als nur Tracking Disrupting oder Guidance Disrupting. Die Crucifier ist offen, also es gibt noch die Potenzial zu sehen, aber es ist nicht so gut als die Sentinel, das ist, glaube ich, warum Teams es nicht so gut ist, als die Maulass und die Carries, die Carries, wir sehen es mehr als ...

02:36:16 Recently for scrams as well as damps, which is a very nice evolution of the way that the carries is being utilized. The mollus won't be able to do necessarily the same thing in terms of tackling ships down, but damps are incredibly strong regardless, and the mollus is really annoying to deal with, especially when you can't lock it. So I think there's different degrees and reasons why the tech one mollus is banned, but the tech one crucifier isn't. The abandoned ban is unsurprising. I think it's interesting that we still have

02:36:44 The Raven, Hyperion, Apocalypse, for example, is still in, whereas ships like the Armageddon, which I haven't seen fielded too much, is banned in this particular matchup. So we'll see what the teams decide to bring. But it seems like... I would say that maybe World Drive Active will want to do something a bit more kitey and range-based.

02:37:08 Allie, this is an interesting question to ask you. Evasive Maneuvering banning the Scorpion. And they're one of the few teams that I have seen in this tournament actually really utilize the Scorpion and play around Scorpion comps. Also Welp Drive, you know, on AT, they tend to run some ECM control comps as well. Do you think that's a targeted Scorpion ban and or something that might be hindering their own theorycrafting, banning something that they also like to use?

02:37:35 I think this is 100% targeted. We saw Welp Drive earlier in this tournament win key matchups with a Scorpion and Caries comp that I am going to call Cancerous. It is quite slow. It is quite undoubtedly frustrating to play against. And of course, that's Cancerous positive. Good job. Good theorycrafting, guys. You broke the Scorpion meta wide open.

02:38:04 I really can't blame Evasive Maneuvering for looking at those VODs and saying, you know what, I don't want to fly against that. I would like to be able to lock things, please and thank you very much. So I do think that is a targeted ban. Now, with that kind of targeted ban, you're saying, okay, I don't want to fly a Scorp Mirror. I don't want to bring my own Scorp Comp.

02:38:24 I'm fine with letting that out of this. As Misty said, we've got the Hyperion open, we've got the Raven open. That means we have Okta, we have Rush, we have Kite. All three of those are pretty viable here. I guess no Hyena ban. So Rush is maybe a little bit suspect.

02:38:45 Well, we will see if there are rushes, or we will see if Octo is brought, as those are the two comps you mentioned. With that said, though, being the final matchup this best of three for third or fourth place, I'm going to send it over to the arena for the final time for these two to decide who is our third and our fourth place teams.

02:39:08 Welcome back to the Arena. My name is Hirvana, joined by CCP Overload, and we have a Shockto-Octo match on the red side. It is Shield-Octo for the Whelp Drive Active team, Evasive Maneuvering. They brought APOC-Octo, which seems to be their favorite version of this. CCP Overload, how do you feel about the APOC in these setups? It really seems that only Evasive Maneuvering likes that ship right now.

02:39:33 I think the APOC is an underrated ship here. I think it's got that big bonus auto range and tracking speed, so it does really well to project across the arena, depending how you fit it. It's also going to hit pretty well into the resist hulls of the Roke and potentially the Navy Fairix as well. In fact, pretty much all shield ships, it's going to do well against them. So I think this is a pretty good ship for Pandey to be in right now. The Roke is faster, of course, lighter being a shield ship, but I like this APOC pick.

02:40:03 Ja, es hat eine gute Damage-Profile in den S.H.I.E.L.D.H.I.P.S. alongside der Devoter. Brudix-Navy-Issue, less so, dass das Thermal-Damage ist. Sie sind also eine der wenigen Team, die das Brudix-Navy ließ über die Prophecy-Navy. Was sind deine Gedanken über die Brudix-Navy? Die Brudix-Navy hat ein bisschen mehr EHP. Die Prophecy-Navy, Sie sind viel relying auf Dronen DPS, die kann sehr gut sein, wenn Sie wollen, um Drones für Rettbots zu nutzen.

02:40:31 You have to sacrifice those RIP bots for damaged drones. The Prophecy Navy, big chunky boy of course, very slow compared to this Brutix Navy issue.

02:40:41 Und wir haben noch nicht noch ein Countdown, so wir können noch ein bisschen darüber sprechen. Oh, hier kommt die Countdown. Oh, da es ist. Sie haben drei Gunships, oder sorry, zwei Gunships und zwei Missile Ships, eigentlich. Sie haben ein Jackdaw und ein Orthrus. Sie haben den Jackdaw in T3D für extra damage. Ich habe nicht ganz checken, ob das Rocket oder Light Missile war, aber based auf Warp-Ins, ich werde sagen, Light Missile, bis otherwise gesagt. Und die Orthrus, of course, flying Rapid Light Missiles, so eigentlich ein Mix of Guns.

02:41:09 und Missiles von Welp Drive Active, aber das Orthris ist einfach so gut in das Kruiser slot für dieses type of Komp, und der Match ist jetzt unterweist. Und Burning-In ist eigentlich dieses Hyena und Devoter von Evasive Maneuvering und Burning-Out-Of-The-Way, except für die Hyena, die Working-Class-Man ist Welp Drive Active. Sie versuchen, die Web auf dem Devoter zu bekommen, und sie sind. So Working-Class-Man ist der Devoter auf der Team, aber er hat sich ein paar Dämmen in diesem Hyena.

02:41:36 Both sides trying to remove the Hyena from the other team and both sides achieving their stated goal. Hyenas dead. So the Hyenas are now just going to sit there in their pods and watch the rest of the game. Good first primaries. I mean, that jackdaw is going to be really strong against those Hyenas. I'm surprised how quickly they both went down to be honest. Even though one side has that jackdaw, I expected to see the evasive maneuvering one last a little bit longer.

02:42:02 Yeah, but it's a jackdown in Orthrus, right? You're going to get light missile application to that frigate. Rapid light missile application to the frigate, in fact. So Mr. Cap's staying alive in the Augur right now under this damage from the red side as Vega is currently diving lower and lower into shield. Doesn't look like he has a local rep on that Osprey. So I'm watching this Roke here. He's turning a little bit. He's hanging around near an MJD beacon. I'm trying to see if he's lining up.

02:42:26 Ja, Wolff-Drive active. Oh, the jackdaw just gets chunked! Probably got a wrecking shot coming in from one of these plays, and yeah, just absolutely deleted.

02:42:49 And it's still the three high-end DPS ships up and available for Welp Drive active, but the Orthris is already in low shield. Oh, gets chunked into half armor already. They cannot kill this Augurer. 1% armor remaining on the Aug right now, but I don't think they can stay alive. Exileus B comes in from the Orthris. He's trying to stay alive through this damage right now, but he still falls. And it's now two DPS ships to three. And Welp Drive active, even though this Ferox Navy and this Roke aren't really under a whole lot of threat right now, especially the Roke.

02:43:18 Ferox Navy is a little bit too close to some of these tackle ships, and importantly that a voter is still alive here. Yeah, I mean, this Roke, he MJD'd sort of from the middle of nowhere to the middle of nowhere else. He didn't really achieve a huge amount with it, except he moved himself around the arena. He's still doing some damage, and they're choosing to go for Stam Punisher in this Pritix Navy issue now. Famously, less EHP than a Prophecy Navy issue, I think I misspoke earlier on. But they're going to trade that for this Ferox Navy issue, and then it's going to be just Jadwick in his Roke.

02:43:45 And honestly, the Voter is going to be the biggest threat to him right now. Because if that Voter locks him down, then Pandy is just going to be able to apply like nothing else. I mean, they need Nappa to stay alive as long as possible. He's just going to go down. He's still got a couple reps coming in. But they're both in hold. Not enough EHP left, and he's down. So, okay. It is just Chadwick in his rook now, trying to solo the rest of the team. And this will be for third place if he can do it. Otherwise, they are going to drop to fourth.

02:44:14 Yeah, playing the MJD Beacons. Might be able to take down Sam Hunter, sharing this Brewix Navy with no Logi up and available. But as we kind of already mentioned, Chadwick, this Devoter and the Apocalypse kind of both hitting right into his resist hole with that EM thermal damage from the energy turrets. And Chadwick doesn't seem to have a local rep. He's getting chunked for about half his help. Don't see him spooling for the MJD quite yet. There it is. The Devoter trying to get in range of the Hextram first.

02:44:41 Not sure if he's going to get it there in time, though. He's a little bit too far away. Let's see if this Rook can get this MJD off. No, we got Hick scrammed. He got it. He has been... One tick, honestly. I was watching that. He was about to go. The MJD animation finished, but he didn't go anywhere. I was a little bit confused. That scram must have come in on the final tick. And that is it. The Rook is locked down now. So I don't see any way he gets himself out of this one.

02:45:09 Das war ein tolles Attent von Chadwick. Der Gewöter wird in der Nächte Zeit, überhebt die Scram, überhebt die Prop Mods, und stopt die Leute von MJDing. Er ist jetzt in Armour. Roke, famously, hat nicht viel Armour. Da ist ein bisschen ein Loco-Rup von Chadwick, aber wir haben nicht gesehen, dass das vorher nicht. Ja, Multi-ZHP ist jetzt aktiv. Look at das Purple in der Bar.

02:45:29 Und das ist warum ich die Apocalypse für das. Es projekte all den Weg aus der Arena. Es kann kleine Dinge sehr gut mit dem Bonus zu Tracking. Es macht viel DPS. Es macht viel DPS. Es macht viel EHP. Und gegen eine sehr shield-heavy Meta. Du schießt in die Resist Hall. So, ja, mit dem, excellent victory bei Evasive Maneuvering. Just taking out Welt Drive Active. Und securing themselves 3rd place in this Charity Cup. So, mit dem, back to the Desk.

02:46:01 Farmer's Bar could be anywhere.

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02:46:57 Well, there it is. Welp Drive Active, welping themselves for the final time into the Evasive Maneuvering Team, who definitely maneuvered better there. Allie, let's talk about the Shield vs. Armor Octo matchup here, and why it might have favored one of the teams. Yeah, so traditionally speaking, in a Shield comp, you get more speed and more damage. In your Armor comp, you get...

02:47:23 More tank and a little bit more survivability. The speed, of course, comes from none of your shield tank modules reduce your speed and all that. Damage, you get all your low slots for damage, it's great. You don't trade off damage for tank. Unfortunately here, though, most of those advantages were more or less neutralized. The Roke isn't actually as good as a lot of the armor projection battleships.

02:47:52 While we saw the Osprey and the Jackdaw are both fantastic ships, they're very good at clearing out small light ships, that's really where they shine. They killed the hyena, that was their job, good job, and then they didn't have that sort of sustained damage that we could see out of the armor comp.

02:48:17 We've seen this rook comp before. It did quite well in the feeders. It's been falling off a bit as we get into these later stages. I can understand why a team would bring it. You do have so much maneuverability with the local MJD on that rook. The ability to send your Orthrus and Jackdaw out as a hit squad. It's a great comp. It makes a lot of sense. But unfortunately, the armor is just better here. You have more utility in your mid slots. More ability to...

02:48:46 tank and sustain and live to win.

02:48:50 Ja, es ist interessant, dass die Armour-Comp, viele Teams haben entschieden, eine Hyperion zu bringen. Evasive ist eigentlich zu bringen, die Apok throughout dieses Tournament zu bringen, und früher zu bekommen ein bisschen Kritik für es. Aber Misty, du hast in den Backchannels gesagt, dass es vielleicht auch funktioniert hier. Kannst du auf das ein bisschen elaborate? Ja, absolut. Die Apokalypse hat eine wirklich gute Bonus-Setup, wenn es zu dealing mit Kaiden-Comp.

02:49:18 So I believe it gets a 7.5% bonus to large energy to optimal range and tracking speed per level of Amar Battleship that you have. So, you know, one of the things that you probably don't want to see when you're landing with something as squishy as, you know, the Osprey or the Orthrus or the Jackdaw is an APOC sitting within a reasonable range of you. It's very hard for you to burn out of range of the APOC and the APOC will be doing good damage the entire time.

02:49:45 Und das ist eine der Grund, warum ich die Apoch habe so gut gemacht in der Tournament gemacht. A lot von den Setups, die wir auf die Apoch gesehen haben, wenn wir die Apoch tatsächlich tanken haben, haben wir gesehen, die Apoch swing gegen sie ziemlich schnell. Ich erinnere mich, dass die Apoch war früher, wo die Apoch tanken, und wenn die Elodie war, die Augra geht, die Apoch collapse, weil es nicht unbedingt für ein starker Local Tank ist.

02:50:11 The ability for it to project damage so well means that Kaiden comps really do have a hard time going up against it. And I'm curious why, you know, I can't quite remember which team banned the Abaddon, but I think that perhaps an APOC ban would have been perhaps better favored. Or I think maybe they were banning the Typhoon, banning the APOC, I think probably would have also been a better choice. So yeah, I think the APOC is a really strong ship to see.

02:50:40 Evasive was actually the team that managed to ban the Abaddon. They're probably knowing, hey, we're going to bring this APOC. Abaddon does more damage. APOC does better tracking and range. We'd rather not deal with the higher DPS and tanky boats so that we can kite a little bit more and project and track a little bit more. So a good ban by them. With that being said, that has decided who is in.

02:51:04 the money for 3rd and 4th Evasive Maneuvering, your 3rd place finisher in this Charity Cup, and Welp Drive Active in 4th. What's the difference, you might ask? Well, 4th place is getting 3,000 Plex, and 3rd place is getting 5,000 Plex. Also, some more skins, it sounds like, will be going to the team that got 3rd over 4th there. So, it's, you know, a little bit of a difference for those fun, entertaining matches you provided. Enjoy your extra Plex.

02:51:33 Now, we have to talk about these finals. Because, right now, it is a match point for Lazy Piglets. They're up 2-1 in this series. A win moves them to be our champions. And Rage Sub is on the back burner, needing to win this match to make it a tied series to send it to a Game 5. Fans are in, and Lazy Piglets have banned the Raven, the Roke, the Tholos, and the Celestis.

02:52:00 And RageSub now having five bans from being down in this series. Another match. RageSub banning the Devoter, Phobos, Hyena, Sentinel, and Hyperion. Once again, banning those hick points. Allie, we tossed this to you the last time. Do you think this is actually going to be a bait this time and they're going to bring something other than a rush? Or do they really just want to keep bringing this rush? So...

02:52:25 I just checked, this is identical to their bans from the last series, plus the Hyperion, which is the Octo battleship that the Tuskers have favored. I am looking directly at you. Rage Sub, cancel quit. Please, for the love of God, don't rush again. They get it. They will expect it. They believe you. Bring something else. The Tuskers, they've banned the Raven, they've...

02:52:55 Das ändert sich auf die Rush Probabilität ein bisschen. Sie haben die Roke geöffnet. Wir sahen die Schachter, aber sie können nicht zurückkommen. Tholos ist gut. Celestis... Ich weiß nicht, warum Sie die Celestis über die E-War Frigates wählen wollen. Aber Rage Sub... Wir geten es. Fly etwas anderes. Don't listen to Ali. Just brawl. Just brawl. Du bannst die Hyperion. Was können sie bringen? Die Apokalypse? Es geht nicht so viel.

02:53:23 Just rush again, rush again. Exactly. Celestis is gone, you know. Rushing, Celestis gone? I don't know how that, you know, holds together. But I do think that that Celestis, believe it or not, is a targeted ban. We saw a setup at the end of yesterday with some teams bringing some Armor Kite Typhoons. And maybe Tuskers has a little bit of a read as that being a secondary comp with that Raven ban. Ally says no rush, Misty.

02:53:52 You seem to think Rush might be good. Is there any other ships that might allow a Rush to peek through here? And do you think it's actually worth bringing that Rush? I don't know if I said Rush would be good. I just said, you know, they should commit to the bit at this point, you know? But, um, I don't really know. I think when it comes to Rush, I don't think Raven is necessarily the be-all end-all of Rush. There are still super tanky ships and super high damage ships in the pool still that don't rely on missiles.

02:54:20 Das wird die Effektiv-Range ein bisschen reduziert, aber wenn du Taupe benutzt hast, ist das nicht so high. Die Abaddon, zum Beispiel, ist noch nicht open. Ich habe die Joke über die Apokalypse noch offen, als ein Replacement für die Hyperion. Aber die Abaddon ist noch in der Pool, als ein sehr tanky, high-damage-Damage-Ship, mit wahrscheinlich über die gleiche, oder besser Projekte, als die Raven würde mit Taupe benutzen. Ich denke, ob andere Ships sind noch offen.

02:54:46 Typhoon is still open if you wanted to do the same thing with torpedoes and probably wouldn't recommend it. I think Cruise would probably be the better choice if you did want to bring a missile battleship at this point. So that would not feed into the just brawl narrative though.

02:55:00 Yeah, it does seem that Lazy Piglets has figured out how to beat the Rage Sub Rush over the last few matches. They brought it three times in a row, if you're just catching up, and why we're talking about it as much as we are. With the Raven gone, I do think it might deter that Rush, but once again, you know, we are in the finals. It is Game 4. You have all these extra bands. Mind games are all over the place. So, you know...

02:55:25 They might be mind-gaming themselves. They might be trying to mind-game the other team. There is a lot of mind-games involved here. But there are a lot of ships still open with that Hyperion ban for what seems to be the meta of this tournament, which is gun spam to a degree. Also, all TDs are open. Allie, would you like to talk about TDs and how it would affect if somebody did bring a gun spam? Oh yeah.

02:55:52 TDs are the biggest possible enemy to Gunspam. Gunspam, the whole point is you have a bunch of ships with turret-based weapon systems that are able to project out quite far. Often these ships are also mobile, so you can reposition yourself to shoot close-range, high-damage ammo if that favors you.

02:56:14 Or you can reposition yourself farther away to shoot longer range ammo if you don't want to tangle with, say, a rush. So you can kite, you can rush, you can kind of do whatever you want. That's why they've been so dominant in this tournament and the Alliance Tournament. Tracking Disruptors take away the ability to choose where you fight. Because if your Abaddon or your Apocalypse can't shoot across the arena anymore, if it can only shoot 30 feet in front of it, all of a sudden that lovely...

02:56:42 Flexibility that you got has been exchanged for short-range weapon systems, but way worse. So, absolutely devastating to Gunspam setups. And, you know, if someone has the read on Gunspam, we might be seeing someone else show up with tracking disruptors. That could be brutal. We saw an attempt at that at the end of yesterday's match, where we saw Tuskers show up with a drone control with...

02:57:09 Tracking Disruptors that got completely demolished by Amalus. So, we'll have to see. Could be anything. Yeah, it's interesting because it's been pointed out to me, and I've noticed this as well, that these teams had to play some best of threes over the course of this weekend. And some of these bans have been, you know, given to them. And a lot of the time they've brought setups similar to the ones they continue to bring every time these ships are banned.

02:57:37 You know, a Typhoon being brought by RageSub, with the Raven being banned, and Lazy Piglets bringing a Dominik's Arbitrator control setup in one of their best of threes. Misty, can you go into some of mind game stuff and bringing these kind of comps when your back's against the wall and your favorite, more comfortable comps are banned? Yeah, I think that...

02:58:02 So there's two ways that it kind of feeds into your mentality when you see the bans. One is, are they trying to push us towards something? And the other one is, what are they trying to bring? What do they think is going to be a risk for the setup that they want to field? I think that oftentimes teams practice...

02:58:21 zu dem, dass sie ein paar sehr solide komps sind, dass sie sich in den Unnone fühlen. Denn als ein Baseline-Komp, es funktioniert sehr, sehr gut in den meisten Praktiken. Es gibt vielleicht die Odd-Hard-Kounter, aber oftmals, wenn es 95% oder 90% der Kompse ist, dass sie wahrscheinlich zu sehen sind, dann ist es wahrscheinlich ein Decent-Komp, um diese Kompse zu gehen.

02:58:49 was your opponent might be going for. So I think that when you see these bans and you're like, oh well our comfort comp is still open if we make a tiny tweak here or there, it doesn't reduce how effective that comp is. You'll probably end up seeing that because it's a lot easier to fall back on something you know than run something extremely experimental.

02:59:08 dass Sie nicht viel Zeit haben, weil comfort wirklich ist, glaube ich, eine der Dinge, die ein Comp wirklich stark macht. Ich habe zu touch on die Mention der Drones gesagt, Sie haben es ein paar Mal gesagt, Drones sind garbage. Please, please, please run Drones. Sie verlieren alle Zeit. Es ist großartig. Ich weiß nicht, wie viele Jahre in einem Jahr haben wir gesehen, wirklich gut Teams bringen Drones und Collapse, weil sie wirklich gut in Theorie arbeiten, aber nicht immer in Praxis.

02:59:37 Yeah, Drones definitely seem to sometimes have a mind of their own, fall off, and just not do what you want them to do. With all that said, the teams have landed on Grid, and if Tuskers wins this game, they will be our champion of the Charity Cup 2. So possibly, for the last time, I'll be sending it over to the arena to break down this match.

03:00:06 And welcome back, potentially for the last time, as Chad says, the Lazy Piglets, they have the cup point. If they win this match, then they win everything. Rage, Sub, Cancel, Quit are going to do their best to try and take this to a fifth match and bring the series to 2-2. And this should be an interesting one. So I think it was Ali who pointed out on the desk that the Typhoon had been commonly swapped in for the Raven in this sort of like long range comp or even a Rapid Heavy Missile comp.

03:00:33 And on the other side, Rage-Sub cancelled, but bringing this Crucifier. So if it is fit with Guidance Disruptors, then this could be a tough, tough match for the Lazy Piglet's Fear. What else do we see here? Well, we also see an Ashimoo and a Crewer. A Crewer is there just to dodge the Hyena Band. This is something that Tuskers did last AT with this exact same setup, just with 10 people instead of 6, with the Armor Cruise Typhoons. And this time around, Ashimoo instead of a Hick.

03:01:02 A little bit interesting, but the Phobos was out, the Devota was out, so they're going to take that for their long-range tackle. Basically saying, we're going to ban both the Armor Hicks and then take long-range tackle in an Ashramu. We'll see how it works out for them, as it's not a very commonly played ship. Ashramu is starting to burn in. We see the crew are burning back as well. Going to look for something to strain here, as the rest of the Tester's Co. continue to kite out. Stu Miner taking damage on the Onyx off the start, though.

03:01:29 Ja, so I can see the Guidance Disruption has been put straight onto the Typhoon, but I don't see anymore. So unless they're slapping all of them onto the Typhoon, I think it might be mixed on the Crucifier. Of course, there's no guns, really. I mean, the Orient, I guess, has kind of fed guns, but you're going to want to put it onto the big stuff.

03:01:45 So the Lazy Piglet is pulling back, pulling range, and Rage Sub cancel quit, doing the slow shuffle towards the enemy, the Ashimu, leading the way, the Abaddon doing things that Abaddon do, which is move incredibly slowly, and it's just following in behind.

03:02:00 Ja, Kronan Young in the Kruir, seeing Ashmu start to dive in, is trying to cut off the Ashmu right now, lands the web, as both of the Blood Raider ships have gone ahead and webbed each other. Primary should start switching here, as we see this Kruir of Kronan Young taking a lot of damage, 68% armor remaining, but he's getting it back up pretty effectively. Good job by Scorch Celst in this Augur to keep him alive, as Melinda, I, and the Exek staying alive as well, 75% to 78% armor remaining.

03:02:30 Ja, Melinda's moving along pretty slowly because he doesn't want to outrun all these medium armor bots that are on top of him. Currently they're doing a good job keeping him alive. I wonder if it's the difference that this one Crucifier is making to the application from this Typhoon with cruise missiles onto the Executor. Maybe that's what's allowing Melinda to keep tanking so far. It is touch and go, but he is still surviving. At the moment, no one's dying.

03:02:56 I feel like you're probably right that this is probably not range disruption and it is application disruption because the exec has a very small sig radius but as we kind of established in the last match precision cruise missiles plus a paint applies very well to cruisers even armor cruisers so really good heads up play if this is in fact tracking disruption going on to the typhoon instead of the range disruption that said

03:03:25 Damage going on to this Pawnee now, also getting repped out. Scorch, Celeste, and the Augur are doing a very good job of that. The Pawnefex is webbed and scrammed though, so we'll see how long you can hold on. Looks like they might be trading Lynx here, as the Magus of Debug is currently very low in armor as well.

03:03:39 Ja, ich sah sie aus dem Exeggur auf den Exeggur auf den Magus auf den Magus. Es gab keine Wettbewerbs auf den Magus auf den Magus. Sie werden vielleicht nur jetzt landen. Ich denke, das Typhoon ist wirklich anstrengend. Honestly, shoutout zu ScorchCeleste für eine unglaubliche Aufgabe, die Auguro-Pilot hier. Sie sind hier unter viel DPS. Im Moment, was du sehen, ist zwei wirklich kompetent Teams manövering around und wir warten für die erste Team zu machen. Und so far...

03:04:05 Both teams can kinda tank each other as long as no one fucks up. Yes, potentially, but there's a web on the exec now. Melinda I currently webbed up, but the Pontifex is still webbed and scrammed and tanking up from the Augur. Who actually got the exec webbed right now? Because now the application's coming in. It has to be the crew, right? Who it is!

03:04:24 Conan Young makes the play on the backside. Now actually also on top of the Cruise Fire that's right here as well. This could be disastrous for Rage Subcancel Quit. Melinda, very low armor, now going into structure and a hero play from Conan Young to make this match start snowballing for the Lazy Piglets.

03:04:43 Ja, ich denke, das ist es. Lose das Exeggert ist eine große, große Bedeutung für sie. Und so far, Rage Subcancelquart nicht mehr able zu breiten. Die Augur von Scorch Celeste hat sich selbst und alle anderen. Aber das ist auch gesagt, die Augur ist auch weibbed und wird starten zu machen.

03:04:58 Das Kruir war allowed zu roam free. Konan Young wurde auf die Exekulat und plötzlich die Extraweb allowed die Typhoon zu apply. Und jetzt die Magus ist auch in Rage Sub, Cancel Quit. So, unless das Augur dies in den nächsten 5-10 Sekunden, ich denke, das könnte sehr schnell werden.

03:05:16 Ja, das Krur pretty much staying untouched right now. The Augur was scrammed and webbed, so it wasn't long for the world and finally goes down. The Onyx, being neuted as well, has a Hick scram on the Ashimu, but is currently also being webbed by said Ashimu, so both these ships are tackled. Pontifex also currently being neuted out. As we take a look at the Krur here, I want to see where exactly he is playing.

03:05:41 Ich denke, das Ashmu oder die Prophecy Navy ist, ist das nächste Target. Das ist sehr weit weg von der Kruisifier. Er hat nur noch ein Fed-Navy Hobgoblins auf dem jetzt. Stu Miner und die Onyx hat eine sehr hohe Armour, 22% left. Das kann man vor dem Ashmu gehen. Aber als alles starten zu equalisieren, ich denke, dass das Loha und das Kruisifier und das Kruror haben so viel Arbeit gemacht haben. Ja, das Loha und das Onyx ist eine große Bedeutung für Lazy Piglets. Das ist eine große Bedeutung auf dem Feld. Und das Ashmu ist still surviving.

03:06:10 The damage is just not being applied. The crew needs to get in and start webbing things again. To be honest, the Crucifier needs to not die. Kaspe needs to just make sure he keeps an eye on that crew and does not allow it anywhere near him. Conan Young playing fast and loose with the webs on the Ashmu. Got it on the Ashmu. Had to pull away as he was himself webbed. Gets webbed again. Might be trying to go back in.

03:06:34 uh for something else but he is very low armor doesn't have any lodgy left so it looks like conan young should end up falling here but this ashen moves also pretty low 73 structure remaining they'll go down at about the same time the target switch has already been made onto the cyclone fleet issue conan young staying alive though and they die at the exact same tick the two tackle ships are dead and it's 48 points to 46 still a very close match but the cyclone field issue is currently the primary and even though with no tackle on top of them this crucifier is locking down this typhoon and

03:07:03 Ja, die Loss der Crewer ist wirklich schwer für die Lazy Pigler zu kommen. Ich weiß, wir sagen das bei jedem Schiff, aber es ist wahr, dass jeder Schiff eine neue Schiff geht. Und in diesem Fall, sie spielen jetzt ohne Webs, und sie haben das Crucifire, das ist einfach...

03:07:21 Ruining the day of the Typhoon. That said, I don't see any guidance disruption on the Typhoon right now. I wonder if the Crucifire has burned it out or is just out of range. Has he burned out his guidance disruption? No, he can't have done. That would be a horrible mistake.

03:07:34 Wenn es Typhoon und Pontifex vs. Cruzefire ABBA, dann...

03:08:03 It will be Lazy Piglets in the lead until the next ship falls. But it really depends on if they can make this trade onto the Prophecy Navy issue. Ladies and gentlemen, I am happy to announce the Crucifier did not burn out his Game Disruptor. It's back on the Typhoon. The DPS, it was incredible to watch. As soon as that dropped off of that Typhoon, the applied DPS onto the ships on the other side did go up.

03:08:26 Die Crucifire, als du sagst, ist Regenerationsschilder. Er hat all die Drones gezogen. Er ist einfach um die Arena. 67-48 zu Rage, Sub, Cancel, Quid. Ich denke, sie sind in ein ziemlich guter Position. Wenn sie das Navy Prophecy verlieren, dann ist das Typhoon auch zu dem. Das Typhoon ist also drob. Er ist Scrammed, er ist Webbed.

03:08:47 Yeah, it really looks like it. The Prophecy Navy issue got the tackle in the Typhoon. Mirashiv was trying to play on the micro jump beacon and maybe make a play there with the cruise missiles. Might be able to take down this Prophecy Navy before Mirashiv goes down, captain of this team. But still, you're up against an ABBA who's going to have quite a bit of projection and you will need to make this MJD play with basically only Mimitar's structure remaining on you. The Prophecy Navy issue just kind of sitting still because the application of the missiles.

03:09:15 Doesn't really matter whether you're moving or not for that. Does go down. Mirosheev in low structure. Splend the MJD Beacon now. No tackle on him, but he's got the guidance destruction. Sitting 30% structure remaining. The Abba's trying to come back in. The structure. No, Mirosheev goes down. Right before the MJD play. And with that, we are going to game five. Rage sub cancel. Quit. Geops in local.

03:09:42 If Mirachief gets off on that MJD, then I think they cruise to a win after that. If that Abaddon did not have a scram, which it looked like it did not, then I think that was going to be game over. But the DPS, just enough, just enough to take down that Typhoon as it was about to jump away to freedom. Wow. And with that, back to the desk, and we can talk about the next match coming up.

03:10:55 I have F***ing 6 Mids!

03:11:13 An exciting match where the Lazy Piglets do not take the series and a Game 5 has been forced and Rage Sub Cancel Quit does not have to quit yet. Let's talk about why that match was so close and how it could have ended slightly different. Misty, why was that match so close and what happened at the end that could have made a difference but just didn't quite happen?

03:11:39 Okay, well, a lot of reasons why that match was pretty close. Some interesting setup choices, seeing, you know, the Armour Onyx, for example, from the Little Piglets team. There was a lot going on. At the very end, why the commentators were so excited is when that Prophecy Navy went down, Mira still had a decent amount of structure, decent in terms of the percentage. Mimitar's structure is not necessarily always the best. If...

03:12:05 The Typhoon had managed MJD at the very end. With the Pontifex still alive, it was possible that they would be able to win the match. It would require them to play perfectly and jump from beacon to beacon to dodge damage for two minutes, but that's doable. The Typhoon outranges the Abaddon, so there is a high likelihood that it would have been able to stay alive, and then they would have won on points, as far as I'm aware.

03:12:29 Inches, inches from being able to pull off a win there, dying just before the MJD kicks in. So yeah, I mean, extremely close match and also extremely exciting match to watch as well. Yeah, we definitely have to thank those teams for providing an absolute banger of a match in the finals here before the final game. Some interesting decisions, as Misty said. Ali, let's talk about that exec and why it was living so long early on in that match.

03:12:58 Ja, so the great thing about the Exequer compared to the Augur is not only is it faster, sure, it reps a little bit less, but it's faster, but it has more mid-slots. And one of the nice things you can do with those mid-slots, and what we saw in that match, is you can put a 10MN Afterburner in one of your mid-slots. So now when your Crucifier is doing a great job of Guidance Disrupting the Typhoon,

03:13:25 You simply switch to your afterburner. You run your afterburner. Now you have no Sigbloom from the microwarp drive. You are going nice and fast to mitigate as much damage as possible, and especially, especially against missiles, where nobody can just transversal match you and hit you anyways. It is incredibly effective. So while he was running that afterburner...

03:13:48 Er war sehr hart zu hit, die Missiles nicht verwendet, das war das Logibots viel zu halten, mit seiner eigenen Repairer und Kap-Boosters zu halten. Ich will kurz sagen, dass es nicht nur Logibots auf den Exekura war, für die Begründung der Begründung des Matches.

03:14:08 Definitely. Maybe they were just trying to use those damage bots to look like the exec was taking more damage than it actually was to force Tuskers just to continue to shoot it and then swap those bots out. Also...

03:14:32 That core making an amazing play, getting on top of the exec to make sure the application from the Typhoon did hit at a crucial time and the Ancel was either on reload or, you know, out of pace and not repping as hard. Misty, would you like to go into that a little bit or maybe another thing that you saw in that match that might have tilted the match in favor of Rage Sub?

03:14:54 Ja, ich denke, dass die Quarren gewonnen hat und die Webs auf die Exekura war eine sehr wichtige Rolle, weil sie endlich verwendet haben, um die Exekura zu töten, um die Exekura zu töten, um die Exekura zu töten, um die Exekura zu töten. Wir haben auch einige Probleme gemacht, wenn es um die Magus geht, um die Magus zu töten, die Pontifex und Magus waren sehr, sehr nahe zu töten.

03:15:22 zu bleiben. Eine der Dinge, die ich möchte, von dem, was wirklich die Zeit, die Missiles und die Abilität zu hardswapen, mit Gunn. Wenn du Gunn hast, dein Damage applies sofort.

03:15:36 So, wenn man die Abwechslung ist, aber nicht ganz, und man weiß, dass es nicht sterben wird, dann kann man die Abwechslung auf etwas weitergehen. Und wenn man die Abwechslung hat, die Abwechslung haben, die Abwechslung haben, weil sie am Ende der Abwechslung sind. So, sie werden bereits auf eine Abwechslung auf etwas zu halten. Sie werden die Abwechslung auf eine neue Abwechslung haben, und dann complete die Abwechslung bevor Abwechslung wird.

03:15:58 um, on the friendly ship. Whereas with guns, you're able to just immediately swap to a target and start shooting it. Whereas with the missiles that we saw, there is a travel time involved. It is a small travel time. It's not necessarily, you know, like 10 seconds or something like that in this particular case because of the distances involved. But there's still that little stopgap of two, three, four seconds where missiles start flying across for that first volley.

03:16:26 which gives you additional time and warning to start swapping your reps over to the target that's being primaried, which means that it's a lot harder to suddenly burst through those ships with a hard swap, which is what we call it when we just swap from one target to the next very, very quickly. And I think that plays into the decision to bring one missile system type, or one weapon system type, sorry. So we saw the...

03:16:52 Little Piglet's team have just missiles. We saw the other team, because I forget, my brain is a sieve, have just guns. When you're going up against tracking disruptors, having all the same weapons type means that only so many of your ships can actually be affected by the guidance disruptors or the tracking disruptors.

03:17:11 Wenn sie die Typhoon und die Navy Ferox nehmen würden, dann die Tracking Disruptors von der Crucifier finden würde eine Target haben, mit den Guidance Disruptors, die wir gesehen haben auf der Typhoon gesehen haben. Also, die Weapon-Systems haben, die wir auch die Abilität haben, um die Anwälte zu machen. Sie können alle Guidance Disruptors machen, aber sie haben die Risik von nicht able, um nichts zu tun. Also, die Teams werden, die 2-2-2-1-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2.

03:17:40 was best suits them and what they expect you to bring. So it limits their ability to fully disrupt your team.

03:17:47 Ja, so...

03:18:12 This Tuskers Armor Kite comp, we saw Tuskers win with Armor Kite at the end of Alliance Tournament 20. We saw them use it very effectively in Alliance Tournament 20. All the teams have to expect that that's something that is in their arsenal. So when RageSub decided to show up with a Gun Spam comp, they chose an Armor Frigate, or they chose an Ewor Frigate, and they opted to go for Guidance Disruptors, thinking that

03:18:41 Armour-Kite war ein sehr leichter pick, besonders weil das Armour-Kite war ein sehr leichter. Das ist für die Guidance Disruptors, sie haben einen guten Job. Aber wir brauchen Webs. Hyena ist Banned. Ideally, wir brauchen Webs, die haben eine lange range. Das bedeutet, dass wir die Blood Raiders'Hippen haben. Crewer in diesem Format ist, wir haben Hyena at Home. Hyena ist Banned, wir haben Hyena at Home.

03:19:10 We're going to bring that. It has a little bit of extra utility with the neutralizers that it can bring, but overall Hyena is still better because the bonus target paint is so good. With the decision to bring an Ewar frigate, RageSub has given up on bringing webs, bonus webs, in their frigate slot. That means that they're going to look for bonus webs in the cruiser slot, and the only option that they have is the Ashimu.

03:19:37 It is nobody's favorite pirate cruiser. It is, frankly, a little bit weaker than some of the other pirate cruisers. But if what you want is a web that can apply at longer range than a typical web, Shimu's got your back. And so they brought that, and we saw them using it in order to get that initial long-range tackle, and in particular, getting web-based tackle, which is very important if you expect your opponent to have brought afterburners, which wouldn't be able to be turned off with the Hicksgrams.

03:20:06 Ja, die Ashmu sind sehr gut, sie sind bei den Lodzern, damit die Korps nicht wirklich getrennt werden, ohne dass es sich nicht mehr auf den Webern sind, als die Webern sind die gleiche sind. Die Ashmu ist ein guter Schiff für das Spiel, so ich weiß nicht, vielleicht ist es ein paar Leute's favorite Pirate-Cruiser an der Basilisk, die wahrscheinlich fummiert hat, aber alle anderen vielleicht agrees, dass es nicht der erste Wahl ist.

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03:21:23 Awesome, so let us take...

03:21:52 Look at this. Yep. Oh, we're watching the video, but Ninja. Now we are watching the match. So let's take a look at this match. So we're going back in time. We're going back in time to a time when RageSubCancelQuit was still all about the rush. We have, this is the most recent. This is the most recent one. My apologies. Let me just skip back in this.

03:22:19 We are going back in time to a time when RageSubCancelQuit was all about the rush, and it was not ideal. Here it is. I was going to say, I remember Toast being in a raven for this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's the second one, and I had sworn that it was the third. I will go back to that one if I can't find it.

03:22:48 All right, we are going back. Apologies for the me skimming around in a Twitch VOD here. I had it up, and I swear the VOD has changed. So let's look at a slightly different match. This is RageSubCancelQuit, still with their Raven Rush LazyPiglets, having adapted to...

03:23:15 So right off the bat here, we have everyone sort of in the center of the match. And this is the Rage Sub Core. They're all right kind of here. From the angle we're looking at, we can't see where Lazy Piglets is warped in exactly. But their backline, their Execura is back here at 50. Their Devoter is up here ready to screen. And that's going to be critically important in this match.

03:23:48 So as we run this forward, we can see, again, the Rage Sub team, that Raptor, just absolutely launches forward. But the very first thing that happens here is... Dink! ...right there. Here's Toastbrot in the Raven, and here's where Toastbrot is going to stay. Because Stu Miner has one job, and that job... Hicksgram the Raven.

03:24:18 So Mirachieve sitting back here in with the rest of the Lazy Piglet's core. Toastbrot up here, over here, hick-tackled. And that is a critical difference maker for this match.

03:24:38 As we can see, the rest of the Rage subteam is able to stream in the Raptor, doing a little curve around. You can see that sure enough, partway in, the Hyperion has gotten scrammed, so the Hyperion's not going anywhere. But, and this is what you never want to see if you're in a rush, the Cyclone Fleet issue of Damasus is scrammed by the Prophecy Navy issue.

03:25:05 Und Tost brought all the way back here, scrammed by the Devoter. So from this position, Misty, was this just the end of the match right here, or is there something that RageSub could have done to maybe get something out of this? Yeah, so when it comes to rush setups, one of the hurdles that teams really need to overcome is not leaving

03:25:34 Teil ihrer Comp ist behind. Eine der größten Probleme, die wir sehen, mit Teams zu tun, dass sie so laser-focussed auf einem bestimmten Schiff auf der Backline sind, dass ein oder zwei von ihren Schiff werden entdeckten. Und wenn sie dann endlich auf dem Schiff auf dem Schiff mit, sagen Sie, die Broadsword ist frei, in dieser bestimmten Fall, die Broadsword würde nicht genug Schiff haben, um die Exekura durch die Exekura, bei selbst, necessariamente.

03:26:03 Making sure that your rushing core stays as close together as possible while you're moving in means that you're able to apply to the same target at the same time if one of you does get tackled down, which allows you to try and break through the potential reps and tank that it has.

03:26:20 Remembering that rush setups are typically also very high damage setups that are intended to break through the active reps that a team may be putting out. So you don't always need to brawl in and try and go for the Logi at the very beginning. So the Devota is perhaps not necessarily the most ideal target, but if you have Newt or some other form of E-War that you can then put onto the Devota to try and break that lock on the Raven for a bit, that's one potential way that you can try and get that Raven moving forward.

03:26:49 Ich würde den Raptor in, wenn es einen Gunn hat, auf den Carries und versuchen, die Dampfs zu geben, um die Räven zu projekten, um die Prophecy Navy von Jason zu projekten, um die Cycloon-Fleet zu geben. Das wäre eine einfache Art, um alles zu bringen, um die Dampfs zu bearern.

03:27:05 Ja, und lass uns das vor, und lass uns sehen, wo sie gehen. Weil, ich glaube, das Prophecy-Navy-Issue von Jason würde ein guter Target sein, besonders mit Damascis-Kadesh taking ein paar große hits in der Fleet Cyclone hier. Und es sieht aus wie das ist, was sie machen. So, wir starten... Die damage ist all going on Jason-Ozeran hier. Jason, just as a reminder, ist in der Mitte der Screen, mit Damascis-Kadesh's...

03:27:35 Fleet Cyclone and the Broadsword right next to them. Toastbrot, maybe a little bit far away. So the Stork has bonus info links. If they did bring electronic superiority or electronic hardening, it's possible that Toastbrot can lock the Prophecy Navy issue, but it's certainly not guaranteed.

03:27:59 Ja, das Carries-Zizim ist ziemlich nahezu. So vielleicht was ich, was ich hätte gesehen haben, ist, dass die Raptor schon ziemlich kommitiert ist, mit der fixation, der sich auf den Schiff auf den Schiff, die du willst. Wenn die Raptor vielleicht ein bisschen schneller in seiner Entscheidung zu holen wäre, würde ich nicht sagen, dass du 50 Kilometer vorst bist, in diesem Fall.

03:28:21 The Raptor would have been able to rotate, pivot towards the Keres and pin it down and perhaps allow the rest of the team, the Cyclone Fleet and the Broadsword to try and put damage into it, again allowing the Raven of Toast to then be able to lock beyond say like 25 kilometers, probably less than that given the power of the Keres and the fact that all of the damps are focused into Toast at the moment. Indeed, and I will note we can see the Raptor sort of in the lower left-hand corner here.

03:28:51 I don't see any tackle on the Raptor. It is possible, and we'll run this forward, it's possible this is moments before the Warp Scrambler hits, but it is possible that Exergyme could have turned around and gone for the carries there. To be seen.

03:29:16 So we've got, again, there's this damage race that we saw between that Fleet Cyclone and the Prophecy Navy issue, with both going down the Prophecy Navy issue. I think this really does highlight that, yes, Toast is damped out here, because if the Raven was able to apply, that Prof Navy would surely be taking much bigger chunks.

03:29:41 Ja, wir sehen vielleicht ein Missile Effekt aus dem Raven, aber es ist schwer zu sehen, dass es in dieser Größe ist. Und dann, die Navy Prophecy ist nicht immer das Schiff, das du willst. Es fühlt sich schlecht, wenn es eine Prophecy-Navy-Issue ist, wenn es die einzige, du kannst. Ja, genau. Und es ist wirklich ein bisschen schwieriger zu machen. Wir haben später in diesem Spiel gesehen, dass Toast die Devoter, und das...

03:30:09 Das kann man smart. Wenn du etwas schützt, wenn du etwas schützt, ist, dass du etwas schützt, dass du etwas schützt, dass du etwas schützt. Aber das Torpedo Raven ist nicht wirklich zu einem Devoter mit all seinen SIG-Blue-Modules sehr gut. Ja, das ist lustig, weil das andere Match, das wir auch noch werden, um Toast zu schützt, auf Schützt. Es ist so, dass es ein Trend ist, dass wir es in mehr als ein Match sehen.

03:30:37 Indeed, indeed. And, you know, I don't see any, I don't, you know, if we take a look at the Devoter here, I don't see any shield damage on. So it's possible that Toast was just attempting to shoot long range stuff into the Prof Navy. And the Neutralizer here is coming from Toast. So the Prof Navy is getting attacked, taking damage, but unfortunately...

03:31:04 Not the target they were looking for, and still quite comfortably receiving reps from Scorch, who is sitting back here in the Execker. Yeah, one thing I want to point out is that it's already a minute and a half into the match, right? We saw the Raven essentially get tackled in the first two seconds of the match. We saw the Fleet Cyclone be tackled within the first 10-15 seconds of the match, and it's taken them an additional minute and a bit to start putting damage into the Prophecy Navy issue.

03:31:34 Wenn es um diese Tournament-Matches gibt, wo du nur die 10 Minuten hast, um zu versuchen, zu gewinnen und zu gewinnen, zu gewinnen und zu gewinnen, zu können, schnell zu machen, und zu wissen, wie zu spielen, in den Moment, dass du vielleicht getroffen hast, auf deinem Burn-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In-In

03:31:59 So I think just being more responsive and aware of the game plans that you have kind of in your back pocket and, you know, the approaches that you need to be taking to these matches will give teams a better chance of success. On top of that, I'd actually like to add in that, like you said, Misty, it took that long for them to actually focus their damage onto the prop.

03:32:21 Burned past it. So that is effective damage. That was not onto the prof. The Ravens seem to take a little bit of time to get onto the prof. And it's one of those things where like you said. There's 10 minutes in a match. And you're the main DPS ship on your team. Maybe you could have shot a few rounds into the Devoter. While you were getting onto the Prophecy. Which could have forced maybe some rep drones to be changed around. Some reps in from your exec. Which you know only has a few rep. You know three reps in the hives. You know.

03:32:49 Effective damage is better than no damage. Doesn't matter what you're shooting. And Lazy Piglets did put the ships you don't want to shoot in the front to screen. And I understand you just don't want to shoot them, but some damage is better than just sitting there doing no damage.

03:33:05 Ja, das ist sehr gut. So, wir haben das Rush Comp jetzt drei Mal von RageSubCancelQuit. Es war sehr gut das erste Mal. Das war das zweite Mal. Wir waren für das zweite Mal. Ich assure Sie, es auch nicht funktioniert das zweite Mal. Jetzt haben wir es zurück zu einem Tide-Series gemacht. Und wir werden sehen, was wird passieren.

03:33:37 So, with that said, we have about eight minutes until our final match of the Charity Cup. And it will be, you know, end of the Bust of Five. Each team now has five total bans to work with. Every time you lose a match in a Bust of Series, you are adding an additional ban to your pocket. So now, being the fifth and final match, each team has won two, and each team has lost to five total bans.

03:34:04 Which is a lot to work with. Sadly, you can only do two bans in each position, which is a strip size that they could use. So, you know, you gotta play around with, you can't just ban three battleships, four battleships. You have to kind of move around, where am I placing these bans? How many frigates do I want to ban? How many battleships do I want to ban? Is there a cruiser that, you know, I don't want to see? And then also, on the other end of it, you have to kind of think, what can I bring?

03:34:31 through these bands. You're talking 10 potential total bands in a format where you can only bring a couple ships. Misty, what's going through a captain's head in this scenario right now?

03:34:42 Stress, need for nicotine if they smoke, all that kind of stuff probably is where they're at because it is a very stressful situation to need to figure out, okay, I need to get all my guys into ships with the proper setups, no illegal fits, no illegal modules. We need to respond to bans that are thrown out perhaps like 15-20 minutes before the actual match when you're going to be on grid. You'll have a bunch of ships kind of lined up in the back of your mind that

03:35:10 sehr unlikely werden, wenn so starken Spiele schon in der Tournament sind.

03:35:18 Es ist eine gute, versatile Schip, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht, wenn man braucht.

03:35:41 Ja, das ist ein interessant Punkt, dass Rage Sub has brought Rush a lot this tournament. Lazy has brought Gunspam.

03:36:07 A lot this tournament. It is the cops they're the most comfortable with. It seems Gunspam is open for the Piglets, and Rush is kinda nerfed out for Rage Sub. With that said, this is the final match. And you know, a lot of teams sometimes hold back a little bit of their theory until they get to the finals. And it seems like Gunspam is a meta, and Rage Sub has Rush as kinda their standard. Ellie, what are the chances here that we see Gunspam?

03:36:35 Or do we see something that these teams have been hiding for this exact moment and bring it out now to shock the other team with their best theory? I really think... So, I do think that Gunspam is quite likely. It's comfortable, and the reason people keep bringing Gunspam, the reason people are so comfortable with Gunspam is it's good. It wins a lot of matchups, and importantly, it's playable into a lot of matchups. Now...

03:37:03 Here we have two teams that have shown themselves to be reasonably close together in skill. So we're no longer in a situation where a team can bring gun spam and just wildly out-execute the other team. That said, gun spam mirrors, they can also be quite good, quite skill testing. So we could see a gun spam mirror here. It is very open. I would expect even if RageSub hasn't been bringing it in this tournament.

03:37:30 that they've still practiced it quite a lot, that they're still quite comfortable with it, because that's what you do in this meta. If either of these teams has found a comp that beats the Hyperion gun spam that has been their baseline throughout this, this might be a place where they bring it out. But this is where you get into the sort of levels thing. So we see this before with the brush bands. Level 1, I'm going to show up with the comp I'm comfortable with. Level 2.

03:37:59 They know I'm going to show up with the comp I'm comfortable with. So I'm going to show up with a comp that beats the comp that beats the comp I'm comfortable with. Level 3. They know that I know that they know that I'm going to show up with a comp. So I just show up with the Hyperion gun spam again. And if, you know, this is where it comes down to the soul read. If one of them gets a soul read on the other, we might see something spicy. If, you know...

03:38:25 Or we might see something spicy get taken down by Hyperion Gunspan. It really is sort of up for grabs here, and I'm so excited to see what's going to happen. I expect we'll see Scorpion kit soon, fingers crossed from Piglets, and then some Gunspan from my brain. Rage sub, cancel, quit.

03:38:51 It's one of those things where you see, you know, the gun spam is kind of the meta of this tournament, and you have to be able to beat a gun spam, and you know that at some point you are going to face a gun spam. Here we are in the finals, where gun spam has been used left, right, and center. So we will have to see, does someone have it in their back pocket where they have that secret hidden comp that beats the gun spam, or do they bring the gun spam?

03:39:18 knowing that they have a chance to out-execute the other team or outplay them for the win. So, for the official last time of this Charity Cup 2, I'll be sending it over to the arena for the final match where we decide the victor of this tournament. Take it away, guys.

03:39:43 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. I am CSP Overlord, joined again by Fear Vina. Once he finds his unmute button for this final match of the day, Lazy Piglets 2, Rage Sub, Cancel Quit 2, all the marbles to play for right now. Fear, tell us what we see here. Thank you very much, I muterated again. It's an exact gun spam mirror, except for the frigate for each team.

03:40:07 Tuskers, Lazy Piglets have brought the Mollus, as Rage, Sub, Cancel, Quit have brought the Hyena. This is, I think, something that does favor the team with the damps here, with the Mollus able to neutralize a Hyena, potentially. But we'll see how it goes. All the other ships are exactly the same between the teams. Hyperion, Prof, Navy, Devoter, Exec, Magus. It has really been optimized with these bans from all these teams.

03:40:33 Ja, der Mollis ist eine interessante eine gegen diese Hyäne, weil er kann sich die Lock-Range durchführen. Und das Hyäne, es geht nicht um die Nähe zu den Webs, so es könnte sein, dass es sich in den Webs hat, und es geht um die Webs auf etwas, um die Hyperion, die Navy Prophecy und so weiter zu kommen. Das ist wirklich interessant zu sehen, wie die Auswahl von Primaries. Ich glaube, die Hyäne ist nicht long-lived.

03:40:58 I don't think the Hyena will be long-lived either if they can get it off the start of the match, but instead they go for Melinda Ai in the exec, opting not to go for the Hyena as kiting back, actually, are the Lazy Piglets right now as Rage Subcancel Quip starting to burn in. We see Stu Munner and the Devoter playing screen right now, going to try to get some Devoter-on-Devoter scram action in a hot second as the Hyena keeps burning in alongside this Prophecy Navy issue. Melinda Ai in the exec, though, taking a lot of damage right now, 70% armor.

03:41:28 Ja, he's got a cloud of repbots all around him. So they went for that Executor, they tried to just headshot, but they've switched out to the Devolta, as it looks like it. There's still some damage trickling into this Executor, but that huge cloud of repbots is going to keep him alive.

03:41:42 Now, the trick is, are they going to try and bait those retbots off of Melinda and then swap back, or are they going to try and just power through something else? Look at this hyena. Look at where the hyena is. He's right on top of the exec on the backside. He got the web, even with the damps going over. The damps actually were onto this exec right now and not onto the hyena, so the hyena burned in very close, got the webs on the exec of Scorch Celeste. This should enable them to apply very well, and immediately the DPS is turning onto the hyena trying to save this exec.

03:42:10 Ja, und das Hyena ist Painted. Er ist wirklich weit entfernt von Melinda. Er ist wahrscheinlich in rep range. Ja, hier wir gehen. Die Reps sind jetzt zu landen. Kann Melinda keep this Hyena alive? Das Hyena hat sich ein bisschen drive-by auf den Executiven. Er ist noch in range, though. Die Dampen haben nicht gezwungen auf den Executiven. Er ist zu versuchen, zu dampen die Executiven und versuchen die Reps zu fallen. Aber es sieht aus wie Melinda, er ist calm, er ist collected und er hat die Hyena saved. Die Executiven haben noch nicht gezwungen.

03:42:40 Aber er ist noch nicht mehr webt, er ist noch nicht mehr webt, er ist noch nicht mehr webt, er ist noch nicht mehr webt. So, so far we're back to square one. Another webt onto Exek once again.

03:42:50 ... ... ... ...

03:43:19 with Scorch Celeste still tackled by this Hyena, and now very low armor. Scorch is really, really low. He's about to go into structure. I think this might start going in favor of Rachel's Cancel Club pretty quickly. He's in half structure. We're all almost out of structure right now. You've got one big hit there, one little, small, tiny hit, and he's done. He's done. Okay, so now you have lost your Execura, and you're still not broken Melinda in his Execura. The damage is back on.

03:43:43 But you don't have an Executor now. It's now just a DPS race. At this point, the Lazy Piglets need to just brawl in, like you say, like Bart says. Just get in there and press F1 as hard as your little fingers can.

03:43:54 Und es ist all über das Target-Selection, aber auch über das Hyena. Der Mollis hat sich die Exekte von reppenen, hat sich die Devoter aufbauen. Wir sehen die Dampson oder die Devoter jetzt auch. Wir haben eben auch schon über das Hyena gegründet, das ganze Zeit. Das ist etwas, was ich ein paar Analysts auf dem Desk gesagt haben, ist unoptimal. Aber diese Teams sind so praktisch, und sie sind so glücklich, und sie sagen, dass sie auf andere Schrimm sind. So ich glaube, dass sie das Exact-Match-Up a lot haben, und wahrscheinlich haben...

03:44:24 Und jetzt ist er noch ein paar Malen. Malen.

03:44:50 Yeah, occasionally he gets a big hit like that one right now, down into low armor, and then he suddenly starts tanking again. I think there's some transversal matching going on here. Mira Chief, double-clicking in space, being a gamer, and trying to get his transversal lining up to get a couple of hits off on this Executor. The problem is, there's such a huge cloud at rep bots around Melinda that he reps back up so quickly, and Mira is running out of armor to keep doing this. It is worth noting, they were very close to the edge of the arena, but they've pulled themselves away from the edge right now.

03:45:19 Honestly, I don't know what happens. If they don't break Melinda in the next probably 30 seconds, they're going to lose Mira. I don't even think they have that long. 8% armor remaining on the Hyperion. He's out of Ansel charges. I have to imagine now into structure. And even though you're a Glente Hall, you are not structure tanked on that Hyperion.

03:45:40 Instead, you have the Armor, you have the One Plate, you have the Armor Rapper, and Mirashiv is going to go down here. Melinda stays alive, and the Tuskers will not be able to go back-to-back in these tournaments. I'm calling it now. Rage, Sub, Cancel, Quit are going to end up winning this match.

03:45:56 Ich denke, sie sind. Ich meine, Melinda ist noch viel zu tun. Er hat sich schon viel zu tun. Ich denke, er wird wohl nicht mehr zurückgehen, aber ich glaube, er wird nicht mehr zurückgehen. Hier ist er, sie kommen zurück. Du hast mich ein bisschen worried, Melinda. Es gibt noch eine Chance für den Rage-Sub. Es ist ziemlich nahe zu beurteilen, aber er ist noch nicht zu beurteilen. Es gibt noch viele DPS. Jason ist bereits half Armour. Es ist interessant, Lazy Peglitz, also known as the Tuskers, gewonnen die Tournament.

03:46:25 in der 5th match in der Best-of-Five. Und in Alliance Tournament 19, sie hat das in der Best-of-Five in der Final-Match. So hier wir sind, wir haben einen cyclischen Prozess mit dieser Team, wo sie die Best-of-Five in der Final-Match gewinnen, dann sie gewinnen, die Best-of-Five in der Final-Match gewinnen. So, based auf Trends, sie sollten die Best-of-Five in der Final-Match gewinnen.

03:46:47 I think a lot of this comes down to the ban format of this tournament. We don't have conquest bans, but with the number of bans increasing every single match, with every single team losing, right, you start to ban out more of a broad spectrum and kind of narrow down what other comps people can use. So in this time, it just revolves down to this gun spam, and as we kind of see here, testers have been very good on it, but so have RageSubcancel quit, and they made the adjustments to take this hyena, and it really was kind of...

03:47:17 The difference maker for them, Exordumi, just kind of getting in there onto the Zexec of Scorch Celeste, really unbothered by any of the rest of this team. Very good piloting from the Hyena. GFs have already been called in local and Rage Sub Cancel Quit. Are your Captain's Cup two champions?

03:47:35 Yeah, I mean, don't count either of these teams. These are some of the best pilots that you will see in tournaments. The Lazy Piglets, as I mentioned, a lot of their pilots coming from the Tuskers. They have a star-studded cast. People like Tosparot and Melinda have been in top teams, coming second, I believe, with Odin's Call. You've got Damasus Kadesh. He's been doing tournaments for a long time, right back to the Amara Championship, where he became one of the six holders. So it was super...

03:48:04 Das war's.

03:48:22 What a match, what a performance from RageSubCancelQuick. Absolutely incredible. I see CCP Zealous, also known as CCP Thunder Daddy, decloaking. I'm sure he has Fireworks at the ready, but we will send it back to the desk so they can give us one last bit of analysis.

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03:49:45 And there was two, and now there is one. As RageSub, Cancel Quit is your Captain's Cup, or Charity Cup in this case, to Champion. With that being said, we saw some extremely...

03:50:00 Highlight level worth piloting there. So I'm going to throw it over to Misty to talk about maybe some transversal matching and non-transversal matching and plates burning and ABs and Logi piloting galore. Yeah, this is all going to largely revolve around Melinda's piloting in the exec and the back channels where we're sharing a lot of the commentary stuff that we're noticing during the match. I know Duck...

03:50:27 Wie ist der Exekura still alive? Der Exekura hatte eine 10mm fit, also eine sehr kleine SIG auf der Logikruiser und es hat einen Räumen rund um 750 ms oder 800 ms. Das bedeutet, dass es sehr schwer zu hit und tracken, besonders wenn dein Schiff hat Reils-Fit, mit keinen Tracking-Bonuss, wie der Heerperion. Es gab einige Zeiten, während ich den Exekura sah, und ich sah die Exekura in den Chat und sah sie in den Chat.

03:50:56 Das ist einfach nur die Exekuera, direkt auf die Hyperion zu sehen. Und Sie sehen, die Armour droht schnell. Die Moment Melinda turns, die Armour geht zurück. Es ist verrückt. Es ist verrückt, wie das funktioniert. Das ist einfach Transversal in action. High Transversal, du hast es, du hast es, du hast es, du hast es, du hast es, du hast es, du hast es, es ist alles gut. Low Transversal, du hast es, du hast es, du hast es, du hast es. Es gibt keine Transversal, also du hast es voll. Und du hast es.

03:51:24 Und zwar sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr.

03:51:50 So, really, really pushing the Execura to the edge of its capabilities. And I think that they really, really earned this win.

03:52:01 Yeah, let's talk about one more thing there, and it has to do with Logipiloting and utilizing your ships and pushing them to the edge. Allie, we saw the Tackle Wing from Rage Sub really push through there. The Hyena was a debated choice by a lot of people in that match. What do you think about utilizing that Tackle in the Hyena and the Devoter, and why did it change that match? So, the Hyena...

03:52:25 I really got to give a shout out to the piloting of Exerdumi there for being exactly where he needed to be at all times. We've seen previously the hyena versus the mollusk. The hyena is often a little bit disfavored because without a mollusk of your own, you have no way to prevent your team from getting damped. Here, though, they've shown up with the hyena and...

03:52:49 at exactly the right moment in something that was surely coordinated on comms. The hyena dives in, catches the logi, webs it, paints it, lights it up for everyone to deal damage, and then does a very good job of sort of pulling out of the fray as much as he can while keeping those on. Melinda's able to get close, Melinda's able to save him. The hyena is nimble and can just dive in, go in, get out. The Devoter is not nimble.

03:53:18 The Devoter is very tanky. It is also very slow. So, with the Hyena as your tackle, you can run in, you can get on top of something, you can lock it down. Also, critically, the Hyena has webs. So, we were talking about the Tenement Afterburners on Execers. Doesn't matter, we have a Hyena, it has a web. Sig bonus, doesn't matter, we have a Hyena, it has a paint. For the Devoter, on the other hand, the Hixgram doesn't do anything against that Tenement Afterburner. There's no paint.

03:53:47 So the Devoter just has a much harder time getting on top of things and effectively being that initial tackle that's going to reach out and make a play.

03:53:58 Yeah, with that being said, utilizing your ships to the fullest potential there, and that is what pulled out the win. And with that said, you have your champion RageSlepcancequip winning this. Tusker's winning the first one, so they have stripped the title belt and put it on themselves here, taking Charity Cup 2. With that being said, though, we're going to do some shoutouts here. And first and foremost, we need to shout out the Charity.

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03:55:30 Don't have the time to mention all of them because there are a good handful of them, but we appreciate everything you did to bring a great tournament to our viewing audience, to our participants, and to everyone involved. Also, a very special shout out to Jintan for hosting this tournament and allowing us to enjoy what everyone does enjoy the most, which is explosions in an amazing arena format. So thank you, Jintan, for what you have done here.

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